Trayvon Martin marchers: 'We want an arrest. Shot in the chest'
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/...rch-zimmerman-arrest-20120331,0,7779866.story
Family of Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch seeks arrest
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elrechazado
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Every site I've seen it on for the last week or so has stated it's real. The middle finger/shirtless one was the fake one being put all over. And as I said many pages ago when it was posted, it wouldn't matter if that one were real either. If it did, we'd have to kill a lot of people on facebook....
I think what matters more is that you'd rather not hear about race from the media at all. Then you could pretend it's not an issue anymore.
soundahfekz
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It is standard procedure in the media to display the pictures shown by the family of the deceased. This doesn't change because this case became national media.
It would've been dishonest journalism to go out and actively seek additional pictures upon reporting initially, because you leave the door open for the perception of bias.
George Zimmerman's picture was likely looked up in a record search because no other current picture was offered, or available. When a picture did become available, it was then shown.
I don't think anyone in this thread is asking for a charge of first degree murder. That would be impossible to prove and isn't likely to be the appropriate charge. 2nd is entirely plausible, and pending any revelation of evidence in Zimmerman's favor, I think that should be the charge upon arrest.
6'3" I hear.
Oh, is the bottom right one fake? Honestly, I haven't been following this circus with too close an eye. I do know one thing, the kid in the top right is not what Trayvon Martin looked like the night he got shot. That picture is at least 3 years old.
EDIT: Apologies, that is fake Trayvon. This is the real one:
Hahahaha you are incredibly transparent.
I'll ask again:
What exactly are you basing this hypothetical on and how is it relevant?
This. Christ, just say it.
soundahfekz
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I mean if he's gonna hit and run with his bullshit and be THAT transparent, he might as well man up and full throttle it out.
Devolution
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Hey black people your shared common experiences when it comes to racial profiling means shit all to me.
Am I doing it right?
Am I doing it right?
When race is clearly an issue, it needs to be talked about. When an incident occurs between a 17 year-old 6-foot black kid and an overzealous hispanic neighborhood watch guy who has no history of overt racism and all we see in the media is pictures of the victim when he was 12 and 14 and the shooter is continually called a "white hispanic", pardon me for questioning whether or not race is being unnecessarily injected into this.
I'm out, this thread is a joke. Let's hope Zimmerman is fully investigated and a trial takes place.
Yeah, I would just find it amusing if he did it twice in a row.
I was going by the conversation back here, but it seems there was still some debate about it then.
Tall does not mean big. He looks like he weighs 150 lbs..
elrechazado
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Hypotheticals are generally made up fact patterns based on the desire to make inquiry into certain logical thought pursuits. Maybe you didn't read the 3-4 posts where I explained already what and why I was asking, or the post to which I was replying when I asked it, or the disclaimer within the post that you quoted itself. If that doesn't help you, I'm not sure what I can do there buddy.
Devolution
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Dreams-Visions
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Seems unnecessary now. Grand jury will hear the case in a week or so. The likelihood that they won't take this to a trial and let him walk free is low.
always.
look at every one of his posts in this thread.
Yeah its awesome. But so mindfuckingly sad.
Big Baybee
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I don't know man. Florida.
soundahfekz
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Kosmo
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No, you're a joke. You've contributed absolutely nothing to this thread other than passive aggressive racism. It's a shame because you know you'd not be long for this forum if you truly displayed how you feel. It has to be a miserable internet existence to constantly suppress how you really feel, all for a forum for which you constantly have to jab and run to keep yourself from going over the edge.
He's got a year of overt racism on phone calls. Just because Zimmerman isn't mean-spirited or malicious doesn't mean he's got nothing against black people. He clearly thought any unfamiliar black person was a threat, which was the reason he called in Trayvon Martin. A broken inner sense of statistics does make him racist.
FYI, the media got those pictures from Trayvon's family. They didn't have to go looking for mugshots like they did for Zimmerman. Is that ethical, that they just take the family's campaign materials? Well look what happened when more enterprising sources tried to find their own pictures of Trayvon, that worked out splendidly didn't it.
elrechazado
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Grand juries can indict a ham sandwich, or do nothing at all, depending almost entirely on what the prosecutor presents and how he does it. It's actually a pretty scary system in many ways from the standpoint of the accused, and has been and often is serially abused against the poor and minority groups. You never know what the GJ will do though in high profile cases like this, and if FL is like other states with the sealed GJ process, unless we get a leak we might not know what happened if they fail to indict this guy.
soundahfekz
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Let's not use the picture that is available for zimmerman, let's put up a question mark and say that we have no available pictures of the accused.
i'm willing to bet that mugshot was the only photo available in which that could maintain an impartial stance as it was part of public record. It's not the media's fault Zimmerman's team waited this long in the game to provide a "better" photo of him.
They told the media that Police let Zimmerman go after he shot their son to death.
elrechazado
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The internet is pretty good at this kind of thing. Social media, as silly and hateful as it has also been with some of the fake trayvon and facebook nonsense we've seen in here, also played a huge role in getting major media coverage of this situation and keeping the story alive. Ten years ago it might have just been another case that never made the national media. Pretty neat how it's all worked out.
They ask for help from people like Al Sharpton.
soundahfekz
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What do you call spamming the most stereotypical picture of a black teen out of dozens available? The shit people will race to defend man
Big Baybee
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There was a very slow build, but when it took off, it took off. Dude killing an unarmed kid and not being arrested is going to attract attention.
Devolution
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I hope you're joking.
You're right I missed your posts where you explained why you thought it was relevant but you didn't explain what you were basing the hypothetical of him robbing houses on. What evidence thus far gave any indication that he might be robbing houses?
Zimmermans bullet proof never changing testimony.
Devolution
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This got way more attention before either Jesse or Sharpton spoke about it. Christ. You can thank social media. This thread why do I come back.
Yeah its amazing how it took off.
elrechazado
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I'm not trying to be a jerk, but obviously you didn't read those posts, because I said there was not a single trace of any evidence that he did anything of the sort or "within light years" of it. This is why it was a hypothetical. This is why it was a thought experiment - what would the relevance be if someone found such evidence? How would/should people react? What might be the relevance for public opinion? For a court case?
Contributing info to this thread? Tons of people posted pics of the guy and the victim. It's not the poster's fault if they took those kind of pictures. If those pics are shameful, embarassing, or whatever; blame whoever took them and whoever decided it was ok to pose for them and make them available online or to family members.
bob_arctor
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I guess you're not familiar enough with kosmos post history or this thread. If you are familiar with either and think that there was no sort of underlying message in that post, than that may speak to a bit of naivety on your part.
Big Baybee
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Why wouldn't it be ok to take them? He was a kid doing kid things. He had no idea he would be murdered and that people would use those pictures as an excuse to justify it.
I think the point was, if Trayvon Martin had a history of violence of criminal acts, would that have any relevance to this case. And to compare that to the relevance of George Zimmerman's history.
The answer is that Martin's history would only matter if Zimmerman was aware of it, or if Zimmerman can solidly establish that Martin initiated the confrontation. While Zimmerman's history is in play no matter what because the known evidence has Zimmerman pursuing Martin.
BruiserBear
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It's all the secret racist messages, and people hiding what they really feel. It needs to be called out, and then you call them a racist, just to be sure they know, that you know how they really feel, because of, you know, the secret racist messages that you can tell they really want to say.
I'm really trying to understand what you're getting at. It seems like you're trying to make this a "fair fight" by saying "Oh but he isn't racist!" A kid is dead and the killer is free. It stopped being fair there. You'll have to excuse people if they don't care how the media portrays a murderer.
Sorry I didn't say he was the major reason, all this stuff combine had a fantastic effect and its great to see.
Devolution
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Ah okay. Personally I think its wonderful it got this big without either of those two.
Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say
Well there you go.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-george-zimmerman-911-20120331,0,250481.story
Well there you go.
Big Baybee
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lol, well duh.
Wow so brutal but damn I cannot disagree. God that was good
If there is not a single shred of evidence why chose that particular hypothetical.
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