Kibbles
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Yup. They used a debug camera to move the camera out of first person perspective, Chief was being controlled by a controller live in-game.
Game Informer May 2012 Cover revealed: Halo 4
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Yup. They used a debug camera to move the camera out of first person perspective, Chief was being controlled by a controller live in-game.
Strange, can you point me to my post saying that then? Thanks!
Can you tell me what you believed?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Yup. Here's all 3 frames we have of it too:
Wait... people are actually believing the game is gonna look like that?! El Oh El.
I feel like we go through this every single time a new Halo is released. It's hyped to look amazing, everyone believes it, and then the actual game comes out. And while decent/serviceable - and far from bad - the games are never "jaw-dropping". But the next time, we go through the same old cycle.
*MAAAYBE* that's an in-game model. I can imagine that. But the DoF (on other shots) adds quite a bit to the look, and that won't be there. No way will the shadows be that good. That lighting is the best I've ever seen on a console; no way will it be that good in when you're playing it. But I feel like everyone ignores the biggest issue - the up-rezzed sub-720p visuals, lack of decent AA, and a sub-30 framerate. I'd bet money that that .gif is not an honest representation of how the game will look when you're playing this fall on the X360.
And, I like what other people have done here. For some reason, you can't come and post negative truths about Halo without being called a troll or a CoD-lover. So, like others have done, here ya go:
I *LOVED* Halo back in the day. Probably thousands of hours lost in the first two games. And while college and life in general kept me from playing the later games a whole lot, I still bought each of them - in their Limited Edition forms - during each midnight launch. Halo is a great series. Like I said earlier, it's easily one of the best shooters, period. I hate the gametypes that Bungie chooses for matchmaking; but the core gameplay is ridiculously tight, and production values and options are insane.
But c'mon, guys; outside of the very first game, Halo has never been an amazing looking game. Serviceable? Yes! Good? Sure. Pretty? I can give you that! But the jaggies, poor framerate, and low resolution absolutely knock it several notches from the top. Again, like I said earlier, games like Killzone 3, Gears of War 3 (though, dem jaggies again), and outside of shooter, Uncharted 3, God of War 3, and Forza 4 look leaps and bounds better than Halo.
Maybe 343 will somehow blow me away. I mean, I have to admit, I haven't seen it yet, and I haven't played it yet. But I'm extremely doubtful. And furthermore, this is on a console-only playing field. After seeing Battlefield 3 on my PC at 1920x1200, with 4x AA, 8x AF, and a steady ~40+ fps; there is absolutely no way Halo 4 is gonna make my "jaw-drop." And with that, I know for certain Game Informer is being hyperbolic.
you dont have all halo novels troll troll etcWait... people are actually believing the game is gonna look like that?! El Oh El.
I feel like we go through this every single time a new Halo is released. It's hyped to look amazing, everyone believes it, and then the actual game comes out. And while decent/serviceable - and far from bad - the games are never "jaw-dropping". But the next time, we go through the same old cycle.
*MAAAYBE* that's an in-game model. I can imagine that. But the DoF (on other shots) adds quite a bit to the look, and that won't be there. No way will the shadows be that good. That lighting is the best I've ever seen on a console; no way will it be that good in when you're playing it. But I feel like everyone ignores the biggest issue - the up-rezzed sub-720p visuals, lack of decent AA, and a sub-30 framerate. I'd bet money that that .gif is not an honest representation of how the game will look when you're playing this fall on the X360.
And, I like what other people have done here. For some reason, you can't come and post negative truths about Halo without being called a troll or a CoD-lover. So, like others have done, here ya go:
I *LOVED* Halo back in the day. Probably thousands of hours lost in the first two games. And while college and life in general kept me from playing the later games a whole lot, I still bought each of them - in their Limited Edition forms - during each midnight launch. Halo is a great series. Like I said earlier, it's easily one of the best shooters, period. I hate the gametypes that Bungie chooses for matchmaking; but the core gameplay is ridiculously tight, and production values and options are insane.
But c'mon, guys; outside of the very first game, Halo has never been an amazing looking game. Serviceable? Yes! Good? Sure. Pretty? I can give you that! But the jaggies, poor framerate, and low resolution absolutely knock it several notches from the top. Again, like I said earlier, games like Killzone 3, Gears of War 3 (though, dem jaggies again), and outside of shooter, Uncharted 3, God of War 3, and Forza 4 look leaps and bounds better than Halo.
Maybe 343 will somehow blow me away. I mean, I have to admit, I haven't seen it yet, and I haven't played it yet. But I'm extremely doubtful. And furthermore, this is on a console-only playing field. After seeing Battlefield 3 on my PC at 1920x1200, with 4x AA, 8x AF, and a steady ~40+ fps; there is absolutely no way Halo 4 is gonna make my "jaw-drop." And with that, I know for certain Game Informer is being hyperbolic.
On topic halo 1 and 2 were beautiful games and lightning is halo3 was great but the sacrifices they have made to achieve that are not worth it!
It could totally be an illusion of the missing-frames and video quality(so I'm not claiming this with any certainty), but what I see in the 3 frames looks like standard shadowmap resolution artifacts(with good filtering).Thunderbear said:
Self-shadow on the arm suggests shadow-"pixels" spanning half of the arm's width, and the ground silhouette is noticeably aliasing as well.
That the game covered would be interesting and make me go: 'Niiiiiiiiceee wooow'. It is not and it did not.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
They should make a stealth/shooter Crysis style combo game where you play as Arbiter dispensing judgement on heathens.
I'd buy an Xbox for that.
I'd buy an Xbox for that.
Listening to podcasts I learned many game journalists do not play PC games. So they may genuinely be blown away.
Buckethead
Banned
SMH at the sexed-up Cortana.
Not enough hyperbole. Get out.
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Very conflicted. Also very interested in seeing how this game turns out. The multiplayer sounds cool too.
Yo let's talk about gameplay features that might be revealed rather than tiny graphical fucking details...for once please let's get away from the graphics.
I for one think we'll see this whole ability/"perk" stuff we've heard about. And I put perk in quotes because that term was used by the journalists and not 343. I feel like it's going to be a big part of Halo 4 so I think we'll get it fully fleshed out in the cover story. I'm really curious to see how what exactly it is and how it's gonna work. I also think, in stock gametypes we'll see multiple rifles available from the outset. AR, BR, DMR and maybe a carbine or some forerunner weapon we don't know. I also hope that this article will reveal more maps as well.
Thoughts on what we'll see?
I for one think we'll see this whole ability/"perk" stuff we've heard about. And I put perk in quotes because that term was used by the journalists and not 343. I feel like it's going to be a big part of Halo 4 so I think we'll get it fully fleshed out in the cover story. I'm really curious to see how what exactly it is and how it's gonna work. I also think, in stock gametypes we'll see multiple rifles available from the outset. AR, BR, DMR and maybe a carbine or some forerunner weapon we don't know. I also hope that this article will reveal more maps as well.
Thoughts on what we'll see?
I personally am still hoping for a Clan War mode that is basically Red vs Blue version of ChromeHounds Online system.
(which sadly is not going to happen)
So you made up your own mind about what Gameinformer said. They just said "screenshots are gorgeous" - nothing more. And we have not seen them yet.
I mostly request 343i to invest on making the community tighter.
I don't have a lot of friends playing Halo, and month after month, DLC after DLC, Reach has become unplayable to me because there are simply not enough people online on the playlists I'm looking at.
Since 343i is building a career into MP mode, I wish they would implement things that make it possible to encourage players to regroup into playlists, maybe by mixing the gametypes or at least prompting you to join a team as soon as you go to MP, before you start looking at playlists. having the sense you're needed could help getting people play gametypes they are not used to.
As far as MP modes are concerned, i would love a Forerunner mode.
Probably fighting off Flood, ala invasion but with a flavor of firefight.
Organising the environment, using sentinels and other robots. Huge map. Sphinxes.
With waves, each getting bigger opponents but granting you extra supplies.
Ability to use an engineer in the team to build th terrain to help defend it would be awesome.
The game mode could even be class based but with a set minimum of "regular" soldiers.
I don't know, having clans seems a good idea. Reach's biggest problem was dispersion.
Clans could get you a bonus, or at least you would know how you fit in the team with your abilities if the gametrack other claners abilities. Could have a clan skill tree, and the game could actually launch request for gamers with required skills to jon the clan.
All in all I want a big trigger happy family.
getting into a game fast with motivated players >>> gametype/weapons selection/abilities.
Of course the game has to be balanced, fun and whatever but most of all it needs to encourage peopleplaying together.
CoD has so many players, you always get a quick game. Halo not so much.
lol wow i was playing halo CE on PC in 1600x1200 years before halo 3, i didnt know halos werent HD on console how lame
specialguy
Banned
I think leaps and bounds is pushing it. But just in the case of Reach. I was very disappointed in 3's graphics. But Reach looks very good. I think it's a top tier graphical game, but not THE best.
I think the style of game Halo is, EG open, prevents it from being the best looking game anymore. Then again, Crysis 2 is fairly open and among the best so I dont know.
Also, too the several recent comments talking about sub 720, Halo 4 is confirmed to be full 720P, not that it matters all that much imo. Not like any of us play these games on a 720P native display anyway, they're all upscaled to our 1080P HDTV's.
specialguy
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What is "HD"? No true PC gamer would consider any 720P game "HD" it would seem, so none of this gen's games (save the two or three 1080P ones) are next gen.
There no hard and fast definition for HD. 1152X720 is HD imo, compared to 640X480.
Next gen consoles will likely move to 1080P, but PC's will probably move to 2560. So yet again we wont be playing "HD" games, because the goalposts are always moving...
But I'm pretty sure somebody from 1984 would consider Halo 3 "HD".
TUROK
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I'm glad to see that there are people here that don't fall for the "HD" marketing bullshit. So what if 1152x640 isn't "HD", it's still a much higher res than 640x480.
TemplaerDude
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Halo threads often make me feel like I've somehow stepped into gamespot system wars.
DeMeester
Member
And, I like what other people have done here. For some reason, you can't come and post negative truths about Halo without being called a troll or a CoD-lover. So, like others have done, here ya go:
I *LOVED* Halo back in the day. Probably thousands of hours lost in the first two games. And while college and life in general kept me from playing the later games a whole lot, I still bought each of them - in their Limited Edition forms - during each midnight launch. Halo is a great series. Like I said earlier, it's easily one of the best shooters, period. I hate the gametypes that Bungie chooses for matchmaking; but the core gameplay is ridiculously tight, and production values and options are insane.
Me not like Halo either and I never read the books
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i don't understand why they buy everything if they don't like the games.
i have the halo 360 slim, very nice. love the sound it makes when you press the eject button.
fanboyness is directly proportional to how much money you've dropped on the series
It's bizarre no other game gets as much venom shot it's way. Even the CoD ranting is nullified by the fact it's on multiple systems. But this is an exclusive. Those beacons that cheer some and give the green eyed monster to others and when we haven't even seen any of it for an extended time, what a few seconds worth of video at most. It's mind boggling that people are bitching over a magazine cover and not it's contents which none of us unless we have the new GI have seen inside yet.
Hopefully screenshots come soon so this thread can move on a bit.
Stop being logical!
Listen to this man, exactly my point of view regarding Halo´s graphics hype. Now, i think every Halo game looked good when it came out, i mean Halo 3 had shitty image quality but back then it wasn´t that bad. Reach looks okay...but for an "AAA" game and a franchise that big it looks meh in my opinion. Especially nowadays with games like Killzone 3 and Uncharted. And that GIF, well i think what can be seen there is quite possible, just use some extreme lighting settings and highres texture and thats it. Except for the shadow, i haven´t seen a console game that has such good looking shadows and does what Halo is supposed to be doing. PC gaming spoiled me i guessWait... people are actually believing the game is gonna look like that?! El Oh El.
I feel like we go through this every single time a new Halo is released. It's hyped to look amazing, everyone believes it, and then the actual game comes out. And while decent/serviceable - and far from bad - the games are never "jaw-dropping". But the next time, we go through the same old cycle.
*MAAAYBE* that's an in-game model. I can imagine that. But the DoF (on other shots) adds quite a bit to the look, and that won't be there. No way will the shadows be that good. That lighting is the best I've ever seen on a console; no way will it be that good in when you're playing it. But I feel like everyone ignores the biggest issue - the up-rezzed sub-720p visuals, lack of decent AA, and a sub-30 framerate. I'd bet money that that .gif is not an honest representation of how the game will look when you're playing this fall on the X360.
And, I like what other people have done here. For some reason, you can't come and post negative truths about Halo without being called a troll or a CoD-lover. So, like others have done, here ya go:
I *LOVED* Halo back in the day. Probably thousands of hours lost in the first two games. And while college and life in general kept me from playing the later games a whole lot, I still bought each of them - in their Limited Edition forms - during each midnight launch. Halo is a great series. Like I said earlier, it's easily one of the best shooters, period. I hate the gametypes that Bungie chooses for matchmaking; but the core gameplay is ridiculously tight, and production values and options are insane.
But c'mon, guys; outside of the very first game, Halo has never been an amazing looking game. Serviceable? Yes! Good? Sure. Pretty? I can give you that! But the jaggies, poor framerate, and low resolution absolutely knock it several notches from the top. Again, like I said earlier, games like Killzone 3, Gears of War 3 (though, dem jaggies again), and outside of shooter, Uncharted 3, God of War 3, and Forza 4 look leaps and bounds better than Halo.
Maybe 343 will somehow blow me away. I mean, I have to admit, I haven't seen it yet, and I haven't played it yet. But I'm extremely doubtful. And furthermore, this is on a console-only playing field. After seeing Battlefield 3 on my PC at 1920x1200, with 4x AA, 8x AF, and a steady ~40+ fps; there is absolutely no way Halo 4 is gonna make my "jaw-drop." And with that, I know for certain Game Informer is being hyperbolic.
dragonelite
Member
So do we have an estimated date for when the magazine will drop at customers or retailers?
Any change people will get it today or tomorrow?
Any change people will get it today or tomorrow?
how does such incredible ignorance not get banned.
1. less jagged? nope.
Crysis 2 uses post processing aa so the anti aliasing occurs after tone mapping and effects.
2. less blurry? nope
making it one of the lowest resolution ps3 games to date
3. runs like butter? nope
it runs smoother than crysis 2 but for such a low resolution game 60hz would have been expected but instead R3 is 30hz and still incurs frequent drop frames.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
That's hard to believe. Even CoD fans hate CoD.
DeMeester
Member
I'm not saying I'm a bigger fan. It's just me showing how much I love the games
.i don't understand why they buy everything if they don't like the games.
i have the halo 360 slim, very nice. love the sound it makes when you press the eject button.
The sounds are a nice bonus, but after so many times using the console I ain't noticing them anymore.
With that post he deserves our pity not scorn.
meh i get banned for far less.
shinobi602
Member
Yea but with Reach looking as good ("serviceable" if you insist) as it does, and H4 undoubtedly looking better, that's enough for me to get HYPE.
AltogetherAndrews
Banned
I don't know. Based on tech, I guess not, but what floored me about Halo wasn't the texture quality or such, but rather moments like driving out onto the landscape in the Halo level. I hope they can replicate that somehow, then my jaw will drop.
The thing i'm most excited about is that this is a new team doing Halo, that's why all the talk about what Halo used to look like is pretty pointless imo. If Bungie was still making them i could see the need but this is 343i's baby now.
This is what i want as well. Hopefully this new planet gives us an opportunity to do things like that again.
My most enduring memories of the first HALO are just exploring the levels in a warthog.
This is what i want as well. Hopefully this new planet gives us an opportunity to do things like that again.
My most enduring memories of the first HALO are just exploring the levels in a warthog.
AltogetherAndrews
Banned
There hasn't been a bad Halo game. Why wouldn't it be ok to be excited about it?
That too. Not really interested in MP (I suck at console shooter), but I hope the campaign get's a nice shakeup from the guys. TOM FRENCH!
No, keep your expectations in check or say it will be crap. There are no other opinions.
Blue Ninja
Member
I like the cut of your jib, sir.
Exactly this...even if Halo 4 looks exactly like Reach with just a better lighting engine and a proper AA solution this time game will look amazing.
Reach did so many things right visually and considering the scale which is unparalleled in consoles FPS games even with it's flaws the game was a technical achievement on the 360...the amount of detail in the enemies and especially the amount and quality of those crazy looking particles looked so much better than anything I've seen on the consoles.
Apparently Master Chief is holding an AR, the game won't have ADS and you can run BF3 on Ultra settings on PC at 1080p at ~40-60fps so it's safe to say that we shouldn't be excited about Halo 4.
shinobi602
Member
I found flying around the AotCR and Two Betrayals levels in a Banshee and dropping bombs on scrubs a lot more exciting
change that to the Didact and I hope you're right.
I have hard time believing this is in game, just because the lighting. Even though Frankie already said everything in trailer from SP is in game its still kinda hard to believe it. David Ellis tweeted that picture couple days ago with a smile so who knows...
Can't wait to see this in real-time, fake-time or bullet-time.
shinobi602
Member
Why would we play as the Didact? Pretty sure he's the main antagonist of this new trilogy...
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