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[Good Job Bob]

Joss Whedon's name won't mean shit after this like Nolan's did after BB and TDK because BB and TDK are dripping with Nolan's unique visual style while Avengers is dripping with generic blandness.

 

[Kusagari]

Let's see if anyone dares to give Nolan the budget and freedom to do a movie like Inception.

I doubt he'll even get the chance.

 

[Dead]

I wasn't aware that desperately wanting to emulate Heat counted as a unique visual style

 

[Diprosalic]

Avengers is dripping with generic blandness.

well, critics and consumers don't agree.

 

[G-Fex]

Joss Whedon's name won't mean shit after this like Nolan's did after BB and TDK because BB and TDK are dripping with Nolan's unique visual style while Avengers is dripping with generic blandness.

unique visual style?

You mean Snow?


And if you mean that, Tim Burton did it better.

 

[Nesotenso]

Didn't you claim Avengers was going to do terrible at the box office? But now that it blew up its "obvious" anyone could have directed it and come up with the same result?

Whedon did more than "babysit," just listen or read any of the production articles or podcasts that have come out in the past two weeks. From the vfx supes to the sound editors, they all talk about how much Whedon was involved on this.

Christ people, ease up on the blind fanboying. You're approaching FMT levels of blind hate. And not nearly as entertaining.

Dude has ridiculous opinions. Nothing new to see here.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Let's see if anyone dares to give Nolan the budget and freedom to do a movie like Inception.

Well I hate to be the one to tell you this, but that already happened

Remember? There was like, a hour of exposition because Nolan can only express things through text, and then there was a bunch of poorly-shot action against unimportant fictional dream people. Ring a bell?

 

[JdFoX187]

Dude has ridiculous opinions. Nothing new to see here.

Remember when he was going to quit posting about The Avengers?

 

[Good Job Bob]

Remember when he was going to quit posting about The Avengers?

He's referring to Ninja Scooter, not me.

 

[neoism]

TDK OS total gross: $468,576,467

TA OS gross after 12 days: $441,500,000

Rises will murder it.

 

[Tobor]

Who cares about TDKR as far as BO is concerned? We know it's going to make bank. I want to see how Spider-Man does. That's a wild card.

 

[Good Job Bob]

well, critics and consumers don't agree.

OK, it's dripping with generic blandness and a slight touch of oh-so-witty one liner dialogue.

 

[DrForester]

Who cares about TDKR as far as BO is concerned? We know it's going to make bank. I want to see how Spider-Man does. That's a wild card.

I want Spiderman to tank, just for the slim chance that it might give Disney/marvel the leverage it needs to get the character back.

Never going to happen though....

 

[Good Job Bob]

Who cares about TDKR as far as BO is concerned? We know it's going to make bank. I want to see how Spider-Man does. That's a wild card.

It's Spider-Man, it's going to make bank.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I want Spiderman to tank, just for the slim chance that it might give Disney/marvel the leverage it needs to get the character back.

Never going to happen though....

Spider-Man could do John Carter numbers and Sony won't give it back. He's pretty much their mascot now.

 

[Xamdou]

People will flock to Spider-man in droves after the record-breaking success of The Avengers.

You can bet Sony will pimp out the Marvel logo in every commercial/advertisements to gather more viewers.

 

[Dany]

People will flock to Spider-man in droves after the record-breaking success of The Avengers.

You can bet Sony will pimp out the Marvel logo in every commercial/advertisements to gather more viewers.

However way they try to hide it. This is the origin story again, that is all I see when I see the trailer and tv spots. I don't think people are going to see spidy again.

Also, speaking to how Inception. How do you 'show' that movie, instead of 'tell' it?

 

[Kusagari]

Well I hate to be the one to tell you this, but that already happened

Remember? There was like, a hour of exposition because Nolan can only express things through text, and then there was a bunch of poorly-shot action against unimportant fictional dream people. Ring a bell?

I meant Whedon. I shouldn't type when drunk.

 

[Tobor]

It's Spider-Man, it's going to make bank.

I agree, in theory, but the trailer was so underwhelming. Hype seems to be non-existent right now.

I'm very curious to see some reviews.

 

[G-Fex]

That hype will gain once people realize that it's not maguire anymore and it's something new and different.

 

[Anth0ny]

Spiderman is going to do awesome at the box office.

=(

 

[Dany]

That hype will gain once people realize that it's not maguire anymore and it's something new and different.

Then they need to try harder because all I see is a peter in high school getting his powers. Again.

 

[G-Fex]

Then they need to try harder because all I see is a peter in high school getting his powers. Again.

And Batman Begins was Bruce Wayne's parents just dying again?

 

[Dram]

Yeah, I really don't know why they did the high school setting again. Didn't they originally have Peter in college when the story started?

 

[PhoncipleBone]

And Batman Begins was Bruce Wayne's parents just dying again?

But the most we had ever gotten of a Batman origin before was a short flashback, not an entire movie dedicated to it.

 

[artist]

We all know who the new king is.

My man, damn straight! Dont listen to the Cameron cock suckers.

Apparently some of the reports/feedback from the people who work at the theatres is suggesting that a HUGE Sat could be possible and we could be looking at 110-120M second weekend. It's still early so take that with loads of salt.

 

[HK-47]

But the most we had ever gotten of a Batman origin before was a short flashback, not an entire movie dedicated to it.

Yup, no one had taken the Year One approach.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

And Batman Begins was Bruce Wayne's parents just dying again?

Batman 89 was not really an origin story. You see Bruce's parents dying in a quick flashback and that's it. Also it was 16 years before Batman Begins. Raimi's Spiderman trilogy is fresher in people's minds.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Also, speaking to how Inception. How do you 'show' that movie, instead of 'tell' it?

Ya know, I talked to a friend a mine about that years ago when it released, cuz it really exposed a lot of the problems Nolan has. He's just so ham-fisted, so damn literal. That movie is 140+ minutes, nobody ever shuts up, and yet most of the actors are just mouthpieces, more cipher then character. A lot of TERRIBLE dialog, too. That shit really took 10 years to write?

IDK, maybe he should have studied some more Philip K. Dick novels, lol

 

[Dany]

And Batman Begins was Bruce Wayne's parents just dying again?

5 years between spidy films and 8 years for batman. Anyways, the batman series went off the cliff at the end, the spiderman films were good overall. It simply feels too soon to start over for spiderman.

 

[BertramCooper]

I'm expecting Amazing Spider-Man to perform similarly to Superman Returns.

Meaning it will do okay, but it won't set the world on fire and won't instantly get a sequel greenlit.

But I've been wrong many, many times on B.O. matters.

 

[Good Job Bob]

I'm expecting Amazing Spider-Man to perform similarly to Superman Returns.

Meaning it will do okay, but it won't set the world on fire and won't instantly get a sequel greenlit.

But I've been wrong many times before on B.O. matters.

A sequel is already greenlit and has a date.

 

[JdFoX187]

But the most we had ever gotten of a Batman origin before was a short flashback, not an entire movie dedicated to it.

That's what I liked about 'Begins so much. It was the first live action origin of Batman.

A sequel is already greenlit and has a date.

Green Lantern had a sequel greenlight at one point, didn't it?

 

[Good Job Bob]

Green Lantern had a sequel greenlight at one point, didn't it?

Sure, but this is Spider Man.

 

[Nesotenso]

I'm expecting Amazing Spider-Man to perform similarly to Superman Returns.

Meaning it will do okay, but it won't set the world on fire and won't instantly get a sequel greenlit.

But I've been wrong many, many times on B.O. matters.

Even if it does Superman Returns numbers, Sony will give the green light to shoot just to keep the licence.

 

[BertramCooper]

A sequel is already greenlit and has a date.

Yeah, I don't think that means a whole lot at this point.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

You guys doubting Spider-Man are crazy. He's the most popular superhero in the world. It's gonna do gangbusters, and I think it's gonna be a pretty darn good movie, too.

 

[witness]

Sony is on track to going bankrupt eventually anyway unless they can turn the entire company around, Marvel will get that license back someday.

 

[Good Job Bob]

You people doubting Spidey are going to be hit with a hard dose of reality come OW.

 

[G-Fex]

Always bet on Spider-man.

 

[artist]

TASM is probably going to do atleast 500M WW, dont know why you guys are lowballing it so much. The new trailer is also pretty good.

 

[BertramCooper]

Even if it does Superman Returns numbers, Sony will give the green light to shoot just to keep the licence.

If the Spider-Man franchise starts to cool off, they might be willing to give it back to Marvel/Disney.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I'm expecting Amazing Spider-Man to perform similarly to Superman Returns.

Meaning it will do okay, but it won't set the world on fire and won't instantly get a sequel greenlit.

But I've been wrong many, many times on B.O. matters.

Spider-Man doing Superman Returns numbers would be a huge let down for Sony .
I don't see Spider-Man coming near Avengers or TDKR but thanks to overseas and 3D Spider-Man should do better than Superman Returns .
People should be more worry about Superman next year .

Avengers making over 100 million this week would be crazy .

 

[G-Fex]

You guys seriously thinking that Spider-man will grow stale like the Superman franchise did?

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Yup, no one had taken the Year One approach.

That's what I liked about 'Begins so much. It was the first live action origin of Batman.

And Batman Begins did not exactly set the world on fire either. It did well enough, but not gangbusters. But it was well received by fans and critics, then you lump in all the buzz and hype for Ledger's Joker and you have a phenomenon on your hands with Dark Knight.

And as for all the Whedon talk and his involvement/non involvement in the film:
It was not Whedon that got people in the theater opening night. it was the superheroes in the movie. Whedon does not deserve credit for people being hyped for that. But it was the stellar job that Whedon did with the opportunity he was given that made people talk about the movie so much after they saw it and why we are seeing such spectacular numbers. It is only because of Whedon's work that the movie is holding strong. He deserves all the credit in the world for delivering a rock solid product and for the repeat business. But not for the initial hype.

 

[JdFoX187]

I don't think anyone is crediting Whedon for opening weekend, nor should they. But seeing the ridiculous holds this week, and certainly this weekend, has to be credited to him. If this movie was Green Lantern bad, we'd be seeing Green Lantern drops.

 

[Nesotenso]

And Batman Begins did not exactly set the world on fire either. It did well enough, but not gangbusters. But it was well received by fans and critics, then you lump in all the buzz and hype for Ledger's Joker and you have a phenomenon on your hands with Dark Knight.

And as for all the Whedon talk and his involvement/non involvement in the film:
It was not Whedon that got people in the theater opening night. it was the superheroes in the movie. Whedon does not deserve credit for people being hyped for that. But it was the stellar job that Whedon did with the opportunity he was given that made people talk about the movie so much after they saw it and why we are seeing such spectacular numbers. It is only because of Whedon's work that the movie is holding strong. He deserves all the credit in the world for delivering a rock solid product and for the repeat business. But not for the initial hype.

Whedon deserves all the credit for the movie turning out so well. Feige deserves credit for hiring the right dude.

 

[DrForester]

And Batman Begins did not exactly set the world on fire either. It did well enough, but not gangbusters. But it was well received by fans and critics, then you lump in all the buzz and hype for Ledger's Joker and you have a phenomenon on your hands with Dark Knight.

And as for all the Whedon talk and his involvement/non involvement in the film:
It was not Whedon that got people in the theater opening night. it was the superheroes in the movie. Whedon does not deserve credit for people being hyped for that. But it was the stellar job that Whedon did with the opportunity he was given that made people talk about the movie so much after they saw it and why we are seeing such spectacular numbers. It is only because of Whedon's work that the movie is holding strong. He deserves all the credit in the world for delivering a rock solid product and for the repeat business. But not for the initial hype.

Pretty much.

A film with so many larger than life characters at once. There was so much that could have gone very, very wrong with the execution of this film.

 

[BertramCooper]

You guys seriously thinking that Spider-man will grow stale like the Superman franchise did?

Any superhero franchise can grow stale - and most have at some point.

 

[Nesotenso]

If the Spider-Man franchise starts to cool off, they might be willing to give it back to Marvel/Disney.

Yeah, but film studios can do the most insane things to hold onto rights. Sony really doesn't have a franchise in their portfolio. If ASM tanks, they'll probably wait till the last moment of the time their contract stipulates and then renew their option.