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BlueTsunami said:
Dallas going solo in the air shaft and that quick shot of the xenomorph. Fuck.
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it's a boo scare, but it's a really fucking effective boo scare. and it's more intense when you watch it again and notice it's already behind him when he lowers himself down there.

the shot of the xenomorph in the chains was an awesome shot as well. not only how it looked, but for establishing the xenomorph's behavior. the xenomorph will lie in wait until something comes by, blending into the scenery. it does it in the chains, it did it in the air shaft, it did it when lambert and parker go do their thing, and it does it at the very end of the movie in the escape pod. i think in the theatrical cut you lose a lot of the xenomorph's behavior.

GhaleonEB said:
Both these interviews are great.
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man, i think his original ending to alien would have been really dumb. i can almost hear the DUN DUN DUUUUUUN music playing in my head right before it rolls to credits.
 
Holland's Pathe theaters are so weird from time to time.

From Thursday the 31st of May until Wednesday June 6th every screening is just the regular screen, but the 0:00 screening is iMax 3D. After June 6th all the screenings will become iMax 3D. What the fuck? I was planning on going upcoming thursday but I guess that is not going to happen.
 
Rivyn said:
Holland's Pathe theaters are so weird from time to time.

From Thursday the 31st of May until Wednesday June 6th every screening is just the regular screen, but the 0:00 screening is iMax 3D. After June 6th all the screenings will become iMax 3D. What the fuck? I was planning on going upcoming thursday but I guess that is not going to happen.
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Men In Black 3--------> IMAX 3D, it's like that here, 2 weeks for MIB in IMAX theaters, and then Prometheus gets the screens.
 
THE-Pink-Dagger said:
Men In Black 3--------> IMAX 3D, it's like that here, 2 weeks for MIB in IMAX theaters, and then Prometheus gets the screens.
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Ah I see. It's a crying shame though. The weather right now is around 82F but by next Tuesday it is going to be a lot cooler which is your perfect theater temperature. I guess the 7th of June is the only day I can go there. EC2012 starts on the 8th of June.
 
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How can I get a friend who's favourite film is 'My fair lady' to watch Alien? I've given him the bluray but he says he's never interested enough to watch it. I've told him there's basically no action and it's more about the suspense, but I think he's more put off by sci-fi than anything else.

If you've got friends that are willing to watch Prometheus at an Imax, you're lucky.
 
AniHawk said:
it's a boo scare, but it's a really fucking effective boo scare. and it's more intense when you watch it again and notice it's already behind him when he lowers himself down there.

the shot of the xenomorph in the chains was an awesome shot as well. not only how it looked, but for establishing the xenomorph's behavior. the xenomorph will lie in wait until something comes by, blending into the scenery. it does it in the chains, it did it in the air shaft, it did it when lambert and parker go do their thing, and it does it at the very end of the movie in the escape pod. i think in the theatrical cut you lose a lot of the xenomorph's behavior.
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I really like the shot of the alien in the chains, for the reason you mention and for just how incredibly creepy it is. It's the first time we see the thing, and it's shot in such a way that you just don't know what the hell you're looking at for a moment.

It's interesting how the alien changes its behavior with each encounter once it knows humans are not a threat to it. With Brett, he lies in wait and attacks from behind. He fells Brett so easily that he seeks Dallas out in the shaft, intercepting him, rather than just waiting. Then he just waltzes in on both Lambert and Parker, settling into position until Lambert spots him. By the time Ripley finds it on the escape shuttle, it can't even be bothered to attack. It's just chilling out, taking its time, knowing she can't hurt it.
 
It's an incredible monster; I think in the final scene when it's outside the shuttle and flailing around is the only time it looks a bit dated, but it's phenomenal otherwise.
 
AniHawk said:
it's a boo scare, but it's a really fucking effective boo scare. and it's more intense when you watch it again and notice it's already behind him when he lowers himself down there.
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I never caught this. Wow.
 
cj_iwakura said:
That alternate ending he had in mind for Alien sounds like some pretty great nightmare fuel.
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IIRC, he was going to have it tear Ripley's head off and place it over his face, and then begin speaking in her voice into the flight recorder as it entered the coordinates to Earth.

Yeah. :eek

Ridley Scott reportedly said that originally he wanted a much darker ending. He planned on having the alien bite off Ripley's head in the escape shuttle, sit in her chair, and then start speaking with her voice in a message to Earth. Apparently, 20th Century Fox wasn't too pleased with such a dark ending.
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So does anyone have any theories on the story?

Lurking some prometheusforum.net forums and there are a lot of theories floating around which all see real interesting...like Who the fuck is the old man on the crew...and that tectcle monster.....and my fav is a Giger art that shows the birth of a xenomorph
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That art is from an early idea for Alien that was eventually scrapped due to budget constraints. It was to be a mural on the walls of the pyramid that housed the egg chamber, which was separate from the derelict ship. They didn't have time or budget for both, so they combined the two in the final film. Some of those ideas are back in Prometheus.

My total speculation on the plot, based on the US and international trailers (haven't seen anything since they hit, including the 3+ minute one). I don't want to know if I'm on the right track or not, but just to put it out there:

The "invitation" was left behind on earth by a race of bio-mechanical beings who absorb other races and technologies. They left the markings on various inhabited planets, and when/if species on the planet gained sufficient intelligence and technological advancement to follow the invitation, the race would send a ship back to "bomb" the planet with parasitic organisms and take them over. That way they continue to expand, while also eliminating potential competitive threats in the galaxy, remaining the dominant life form.

Prometheus walks right into it, and the alien ship taking off is a bomber heading back to Earth to take it over. That's what the eggs on the ship in Alien were to be used for, but they backfired on that particular pilot.

I have no idea. I don't want to know until I walk into the theater.
 
Good Job Bob said:
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is that official? i really like it.

[quote="GhaleonEB, post: 38220738"]I really like the shot of the alien in the chains, for the reason you mention and for just how incredibly creepy it is. It's the first time we see the thing, and it's shot in such a way that you just don't know what the hell you're looking at for a moment.

It's interesting how the alien changes its behavior with each encounter once it knows humans are not a threat to it. With Brett, he lies in wait and attacks from behind. He fells Brett so easily that he seeks Dallas out in the shaft, intercepting him, rather than just waiting. Then he just waltzes in on both Lambert [I]and[/I] Parker, settling into position until Lambert spots him. By the time Ripley finds it on the escape shuttle, it can't even be bothered to attack. It's just chilling out, taking its time, knowing she can't hurt it.[/QUOTE]

that's a good point. i hadn't thought about how it sort of adjusts its strategy

[quote="GhaleonEB, post: 38223496"]IIRC, he was going to have it tear Ripley's head off and place it over his face, and then begin speaking in her voice into the flight recorder as it entered the coordinates to Earth.

[URL="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078748/trivia"]Yeah[/URL]. :eek[/QUOTE]

again, i hear thus 'DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUN' thing in my mind. it's a bold choice to kill every last of your human cast, but what comes of it sounds like something from a dark comedy than a horror film.

i think it's because the shift is so sudden. the xenomorph would have killed so many people at that point that it wouldn't make sense for it to do something like that until the very end. it acts very animalistic and almost on instinct (although it's very obviously intelligent since it does adjust its strategy and even knows to get in the escape pod), and then [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyGMiwOGBfM#t=30s]it pulls out its pipe and explains its master plan.[/url]
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Jangaroo said:
I never caught this. Wow.
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the film toned it down from the original script, which was supposed to show a hand reaching for dallas as he ascended to a different level of the air shaft at some point (and maybe other quick shots establishing the alien was following him). the final version is way more effective if you catch a glimpse of the thing already there.
 
I've managed to stay almost completely dark on this film. I know pretty much nothing about it. Just fuzzy memories of seeing a trailer a few months ago and thinking it looked amazing. :-)

This is the first time I've been REALLY hyped for a movie pre-release since The Matrix in 1999.
 
Ashhong said:
I don't think he said that unless I read wrong. Always the chance he doesn't realize what a liemax is and how it differs.
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Didn't realize Wimbledon and Greenwich has Liemax, maybe if it warrants a second viewing then. So it is smaller but sharper, apparenltly people say sound is better at bfi big IMAX, not enough of a difference to get out of central london though.
 
My one great hope for this film is that the plot consists of something more than the angle of "the search for our beginning could lead to our end". That's been done a hundred times before, including in Dead Space. Sci-fi cinema could really use some new ideas, and Scott made it sound like he was doing something original. Even if there is nothing necessarily new, however, I'm sure that it's still going to be a great film based on the atmosphere and tension alone.
 
AniHawk said:
again, i hear thus 'DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUN' thing in my mind. it's a bold choice to kill every last of your human cast, but what comes of it sounds like something from a dark comedy than a horror film.

i think it's because the shift is so sudden. the xenomorph would have killed so many people at that point that it wouldn't make sense for it to do something like that until the very end. it acts very animalistic and almost on instinct (although it's very obviously intelligent since it does adjust its strategy and even knows to get in the escape pod), and then it pulls out its pipe and explains its master plan.
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Agree.

effzee said:
Watching Alien for the first time ever tonight!

Theatrical cut right?
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Yup.

I love seeing all these new people seeing the film for the first time.
 
Angry Fork said:
I still haven't seen Alien 3/4/resurrection bs, should I be glad? How bad do they retro actively ruin Alien.
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They don't retroactively ruin Alien so much as utterly waste your time. The stories feel totally disconnected from the universe. I can't even recommended them as in the "see them so you know how bad they are". I wouldn't wish Resurrection on anyone.
 
Angry Fork said:
I still haven't seen Alien 3/4/resurrection bs, should I be glad? How bad do they retro actively ruin Alien.
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I think Alien 3 is a good movie in an interesting setting, but I might be subconsciously pushed to that opinion by a desire to contradict the undeserved hate it gets. Resurrection is definitely disconnected, and I hated it the first time. At the second viewing I was able to find fun in it, however.
 
AniHawk said:
it's a boo scare, but it's a really fucking effective boo scare. and it's more intense when you watch it again and notice it's already behind him when he lowers himself down there.
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I just watched that scene a couple of times on BluRay and I can't spot what you're referring to. Can you give a few more details?
 
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