'Exhausted' Honor Student, jailed for truancy

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This is all kinds of fucked up. Wow. Glad it's hitting the news though, seems like the attention is helping her out while exposing the douchebaggery all around.
 
So, Judge Dredd Doom of District 9 is off enjoying his Memorial Day weekend? I'm sure when he comes back to work on Monday or Tuesday, he'll have plenty of hate mail/faxes/etc. to sort through. If he doesn't throw this case out, impeach his sorry geriatric ass!
 
So many of you are dumbfounded as to where the parents are.

But Vietnamese-American/Vietnamese-Canadian GAF for the most part are not surprised. The stereotype of Asian Americans being The Model Minority does a huge disservice in hiding all the various social problems among the many Asian American communities.

I remember having trouble in college and seeing a counsellor. He eventually got exasperated and blurted out, "Aren't Asian parents are supposed to sacrifice for their kid's education?!" I wanted to tell him about how common it is for Vietnamese kids to drop out of school to help support the family, more so in Vietnam than abroad, but instead, I just laughed in his face [at his ignorance].

Her circumstance isn't something I haven't personally seen before - except for the part with the dumbfuck judge.

Right? We execute everyone.

Especially if they aren't white.
 
Someone should go all vigilante on his ass. Justice ain't served yet, your honor.
One should also assess every situation with specific methods of resolution. Judge is soulless, like a tin-can.
Maybe he should ask the Wizard of Oz for a heart.
 
why is truancy a serious problem? why should going to school be required?
Think it through for a minute. If it were up to kids, a lot would just say fuck it and quit.

As a 1st world nation if that number is significant enough ... the result would be economic, and eventually, societal collapse.
 
My senior year I only went to my non AP classes only once a week despite policy requiring my suspension/expulsion for missing that much class for a few weeks let alone the whole year.

The advantages of being a football player at a football loving school I guess.
 
Think it through for a minute. If it were up to kids, a lot would just say fuck it and quit.

As a 1st world nation if that number is significant enough ... the result would be economic, and eventually, societal collapse.

The idea that shoving school down a bunch of kids' throats that hate being there is the main reason we're a first world country is really nonsense, no matter how popular the idea is.

Truancy laws are a fucking joke. There's only one other type of person who breaks a law when they leave a place that they're forced to be in.
 
The idea that shoving school down a bunch of kids' throats that hate being there is the main reason we're a first world country is really nonsense, no matter how popular the idea is.

Truancy laws are a fucking joke. There's only one other type of person who breaks a law when they leave a place that they're forced to be in.

What is the reason we're a first world country if not having a well educated base?

I'm sure a lot of the people who brought us here hated school when they were younger, if they were allowed to skip it and just go whatever the hell they want all day, would we still be a first world country?
 
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The idea that shoving school down a bunch of kids' throats that hate being there is the main reason we're a first world country is really nonsense, no matter how popular the idea is.

Truancy laws are a fucking joke. There's only one other type of person who breaks a law when they leave a place that they're forced to be in.

Truancy laws are a way to bring down crime rates committed by teenagers. I'm pretty sure who ever came up with it was not thinking about keeping kids in school but more keeping kids off the street.
 
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Truancy laws are a way to bring down crime rates committed by teenagers. I'm pretty sure who ever came up with it was not thinking about keeping kids in school but more keeping kids off the street.

It is also to keep kids in school. Schools are paid by student attendance.
 
It is also to keep kids in school. Schools are paid by student attendance.

But those can be manipulated. Don't most school count home room attendance meaning the student went to school for the day, but it does not say if the student stayed the whole day.

When I went to high school (NYC) to avoid getting a truancy phone call to my home I just went to my attendance period, and then cut school for the rest of the day.
 
But those can be manipulated. Don't most school count home room attendance meaning the student went to school for the day, but it does not say if the student stayed the whole day.

Manipulated by the student but not the school. The school still wants to see an ass in that seat during that period.
 
What is the reason we're a first world country if not having a well educated base?

That's a pretty complicated answer, I'd suggest reading Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel for a fascinating take on why certain countries succeed and others fail. Though there's one thing I'm fairly certain of, and that's that our current form of "education" has little to do with the country's success.

I'm sure a lot of the people who brought us here hated school when they were younger, if they were allowed to skip it and just go whatever the hell they want all day, would we still be a first world country?

No, I don't think we would turn into Somalia if kids were running around outside rather than stuck indoors taking standardized tests that have little relevance with the real world.
 
Judge is an idiot, as confirmed by the fact he gave an interview. Judges are not supposed to give interviews on cases they have presided on, certainly not this close in time.

Law is stupid, but there are people who (in the face of all common sense and research on the subject) think laws like this straighten people out.

But the story still seems odd. I wish they would explain her plight more rather than just throw out a couple facts to ratchet up the sympathy. When a reporter does this, it leads me to assume they are being dishonest about something.
 
I reminded of the one thread who suggested people should be jailed/executed for littering, since people can always choose to "not break the law."
 
I was hoping this thread being bumped would have been because of some good news as a result of the backlash that I would hope this story would cause.
 
But the story still seems odd. I wish they would explain her plight more rather than just throw out a couple facts to ratchet up the sympathy. When a reporter does this, it leads me to assume they are being dishonest about something.

There is definitely something fishy.

- Her parents up and left without leaving any support.
- She has to support her adult brother who lives out of town?
- She has to support her younger sister who is living with relatives?
- She is living under the care of her part time employer but still has to work a full time job on top of that?

That should be the focus, not "wtf Texas" or "truancy laws are dumb".
 
But those can be manipulated. Don't most school count home room attendance meaning the student went to school for the day, but it does not say if the student stayed the whole day.

When I went to high school (NYC) to avoid getting a truancy phone call to my home I just went to my attendance period, and then cut school for the rest of the day.
My kids schools count attendance for each class (Elementary school is a bit different since it's largely just one teacher).

So even though the school may have good attendance, the particular kid can still get into attendance trouble.
 
About people questioning her supporting her brother in college. That's really not that hard to understand. College isn't cheap, and chances are, her brother isn't living the high life there. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 2 jobs just to support him in college.
 
About people questioning her supporting her brother in college. That's really not that hard to understand. College isn't cheap, and chances are, her brother isn't living the high life there. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes 2 jobs just to support him in college.
To me the brother should be working or taking time off to support the family. I'm not sure what the others had issues with, but the sister having to put even one dollar in to support him, given the circumstances, is one dollar too many.
 
But those can be manipulated. Don't most school count home room attendance meaning the student went to school for the day, but it does not say if the student stayed the whole day.

When I went to high school (NYC) to avoid getting a truancy phone call to my home I just went to my attendance period, and then cut school for the rest of the day.

Every period takes attendance normally. and leaving school can get you in worse trouble(with the school) than skipping all together.
 
To me the brother should be working or taking time off to support the family. I'm not sure what the others had issues with, but the sister having to put even one dollar in to support him, given the circumstances, is one dollar too many.
To me it's more responsible that he wants to get an education, so he isn't stuck working dead end minimum wage jobs for the rest of his life.

Hardship now versus hardship for life, seems the more responsible answer is education.
 
To me the brother should be working or taking time off to support the family. I'm not sure what the others had issues with, but the sister having to put even one dollar in to support him, given the circumstances, is one dollar too many.

That's the thing, the brother probably is working, but it's not enough to survive in college. That's why the sister is also working to support him.
 
To me it's more responsible that he wants to get an education, so he isn't stuck working dead end minimum wage jobs for the rest of his life.

Hardship now versus hardship for life, seems the more responsible answer is education.

So she should bow down and put his life before hers?

That's the thing, the brother probably is working, but it's not enough to survive in college. That's why the sister is also working to support him.

College students have access to way more options and resources than high school students do.
 
College students have access to way more options and resources than high school students do.

Yeah, if he needs money he can get into student loan debt with the rest of the country.

There's no reason she should be supporting a dude in college at all.
 
This is absolutely ridiculous.

AND it makes me feel bad about myself for not working harder. Fuck I gotta stop wasting my time.
 
I can't even begin to get mad at the judge.

He is eclipsed tenfold by the parents who divorce and up and decide to leave their child to raise her siblings. What the fuck. Seriously. The douchebag judge's actions can be validated insofar as he's following the letter of the law, albeit a stupid and inflexible law.

But why the fuck is the state allowing this kid to raise her siblings and work multiple jobs while going to school as though it's nothing? There's a lot of people in this scenario who seriously need to lose their job...

...the girl, first and foremost. A kid shouldn't have that much pressure in any scenario.
 
But those can be manipulated. Don't most school count home room attendance meaning the student went to school for the day, but it does not say if the student stayed the whole day.

When I went to high school (NYC) to avoid getting a truancy phone call to my home I just went to my attendance period, and then cut school for the rest of the day.

bullshit, because every class takes their own attendance and some teachers if you miss their class they will call home.
 
I hope 4chan gets on this and makes the judge feel their wrath.

Why would you even jail someone for not going to school anyway. It's high school not elementary, talk about a nanny state.
 
I can't even begin to get mad at the judge.

He is eclipsed tenfold by the parents who divorce and up and decide to leave their child to raise her siblings. What the fuck. Seriously. The douchebag judge's actions can be validated insofar as he's following the letter of the law, albeit a stupid and inflexible law.

But why the fuck is the state allowing this kid to raise her siblings and work multiple jobs while going to school as though it's nothing? There's a lot of people in this scenario who seriously need to lose their job...

...the girl, first and foremost. A kid shouldn't have that much pressure in any scenario.

+1 on these parents. I've never heard of a divorce causing parents to divorce their kids too. Like seriously, how does divorce lead to child abandonment? What does one have to do with the other? I'd like an article with my commentary on that part of this story, as it makes no sense at all.

That said, fuck the judge. He still could have offered a different sentence than that. The last fucking thing she needed was a "lesson" from a patronizing, low-level judge who presumes she needs to be taught a lesson on "responsibility".

If she's not being responsible, nobody is. Sending her to jail--even for 24 hours--is just a kick in the pants. Disrespectful at best. I hope he's not a Christian. Truly. Rather, I hope he doesn't claim to be, because he's clearly not one in faith or practice.
 
It is also to keep kids in school. Schools are paid by student attendance.

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Every period takes attendance normally. and leaving school can get you in worse trouble(with the school) than skipping all together.

bullshit, because every class takes their own attendance and some teachers if you miss their class they will call home.

Yes it true every class does take attendance, but I'm talking about official school attendance that one period where your marked present for the "whole school day". That's how it worked when I was in HS which was 9 years ago. I think its still used today, my cousin sometimes get calls for truancy and marked absent for that school day because he missed the schools official attendance period, even though he was present for the rest of his classes that day.
 
There is definitely something fishy.

- Her parents up and left without leaving any support.
- She has to support her adult brother who lives out of town?
- She has to support her younger sister who is living with relatives?
- She is living under the care of her part time employer but still has to work a full time job on top of that?

Yeah, it just doesn't add up. To me, it doesn't matter, as being truant should never result in criminal prosecution, but it bugs me that this is not being investigated a bit more.
 
Yes it true every class does take attendance, but I'm talking about official school attendance that one period where your marked present for the "whole school day". That's how it worked when I was in HS which was 9 years ago. I think its still used today, my cousin sometimes get calls for truancy and marked absent for that school day because he missed the schools official attendance period, even though he was present for the rest of his classes that day.

Yes. The school does care about each period, but the "home" period attendance is what is sent to the state for funding.
 
To me it's more responsible that he wants to get an education, so he isn't stuck working dead end minimum wage jobs for the rest of his life.

Hardship now versus hardship for life, seems the more responsible answer is education.
That's exclusive of what the sister seems to be doing for him. Working during school is a perfectly acceptable way to pay for school.

That's the thing, the brother probably is working, but it's not enough to survive in college. That's why the sister is also working to support him.
This is admirable but it's in no way her place to be supporting her brother in college when she can't get to public school in a timely fashion. Why would he want her to ruin her chances by supporting his chances?

This is obviously a culture thing and the article news doesn't seem to know that so they can't quite explain it well, but on the surface the brother should be coming home from college to support his sister, much less getting help from her.
 
...so let me get this straight , a kid...who should be in HS got jailed for growing up and stepping up to the plate to run her abandoned home?


that'll teach her!
 
There is definitely something fishy.

- Her parents up and left without leaving any support.
- She has to support her adult brother who lives out of town?
- She has to support her younger sister who is living with relatives?
- She is living under the care of her part time employer but still has to work a full time job on top of that?

That should be the focus, not "wtf Texas" or "truancy laws are dumb".
Zoe here is making good points. When I posted the article on Facebook, a friend of mine immediately asked the same questions. Regardless, the judge is a piece of crap but there's some fishy stuff here.
 
This is obviously a culture thing and the article news doesn't seem to know that so they can't quite explain it well, but on the surface the brother should be coming home from college to support his sister, much less getting help from her.

Maybe it's different for the Vietnamese, but typically as the eldest son, he should be expected to take care of the family.
 
I made the horrid mistake of reading the Huffington Post article about this. Or, more to the point, I read the comments. I was stunned by the number of assholes who actually supported the judge's decision. What in the fuck is wrong with humanity?
 
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