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without getting into spoiler territory, how was the plot, the characters and acting?

Acting was good all round, some characters are a bit shallow (no character development) while others are really good (Fassbender and Noomi). The plot progression stalls, but it's enjoyable, I guess it depends on your expectations.

If you go into the movie screening with your expectations in place, you will have a great time.
 
Acting was good all round, some characters are a bit shallow (no character development) while others are really good (Fassbender and Noomi). The plot progression stalls, but it's enjoyable, I guess it depends on your expectations.

If you go into the movie screening with your expectations in place, you will have a great time.

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Most reviews so far haven't been doing the movie any favours by constantly comparing it to Alien. Perhaps it's inevitable given the subject matter, but it would be nice to see a review take the movie on its own merits. There's no way this movie can win if its put under the shadow of Alien time and again, no matter how good it is.
 
Some guy on reddit saw it, and said the movie opens up a lot of questions but doesn't really answer any of them.

If true, Lindelof is a hack.
 
Most reviews so far haven't been doing the movie any favours by constantly comparing it to Alien. Perhaps it's inevitable given the subject matter, but it would be nice to see a review take the movie on its own merits. There's no way this movie can win if its put under the shadow of Alien time and again, no matter how good it is.

It's still a prequel through and through.
 
Goddamit I hyped myself into oblivion. I have never been so excited for a movie in my life, never wanted a movie to succeed more. Even if the movie is enjoyable, I will be heartbroken. I wanted this to be a classic. With amazing, shocking scenes and intense, bleak atmosphere, with an increble story that will have you thinking and talking about it for days after. Looks like I won't get that, why did I do this to myself. Fuck me... Maybe there is still hope.
 
Goddamit I hyped myself into oblivion. I have never been so excited for a movie in my life, never wanted a movie to succeed more. Even if the movie is enjoyable, I will be heartbroken. I wanted this to be a classic. With amazing, shocking scenes and intense, bleak atmosphere, with an increble story that will have you thinking and talking about it for days after. Looks like I won't get that, why did I do this to myself. Fuck me... Maybe there is still hope.

Yeah, I'm definitely adjusting my expectations accordingly. Oh well.
 
Goddamit I hyped myself into oblivion. I have never been so excited for a movie in my life, never wanted a movie to succeed more. Even if the movie is enjoyable, I will be heartbroken. I wanted this to be a classic. With amazing, shocking scenes and intense, bleak atmosphere, with an increble story that will have you thinking and talking about it for days after. Looks like I won't get that, why did I do this to myself. Fuck me... Maybe there is still hope.
Those are some crazy high expectations, but you just gotta judge for yourself. A lot of classics have had mixed reception when they were first released. Some of my very favorite movies, such as The Fountain, I would never have seen if I trusted early reviews and opinions.

symphonask said:
Most reviews so far haven't been doing the movie any favours by constantly comparing it to Alien. Perhaps it's inevitable given the subject matter, but it would be nice to see a review take the movie on its own merits. There's no way this movie can win if its put under the shadow of Alien time and again, no matter how good it is.
This too. Ridley's been pretty clear about not wanting to do "just another Alien", but something different, so if you're expecting Alien you'll obviously be disappointed. And also I think people might be remembering Alien as more than it actually was. It didn't really have an amazingly deep story or massive amounts of characters development. And now Prometheus is expected to have those things, while at the same having the shocks, scares and gore of Alien, and as thick an athmosphere.

I can understand why they've tried to keep the word "Alien" out of the marketing, and I would be very interested in hearing opinions from people who either haven't seen Alien, or don't actually know Prometheus is connected to it.
 
This too. Ridley's been pretty clear about not wanting to do "just another Alien", but something different, so if you're expecting Alien you'll obviously be disappointed. And also I think people might be remembering Alien as more than it actually was. It didn't really have an amazingly deep story or massive amounts of characters development. And now Prometheus is expected to have those things, while at the same having the shocks, scares and gore of Alien, and as thick an athmosphere.

Nobody's saying it did. But it's still a top 3 Ridley Scott movie. And better than anything he's done in years.

Prometheus may very well be good or it may be disappointing, but either way he brought it on himself for tying this to the Alien universe. Sure sure he can say "but it's not a prequel". And yet he threw in that Alien craft, and Weyland-Yutani corp.

At this rate he should just scrap the Blade Runner sequel idea entirely and just work on a brand new cyberpunk film. I don't think he can live up to his previous legacy and I'd rather see him do something new than be tied down to his past.
 
i really like that scene where its just a close up of jonesys face with the shadows on it as whatsherface gets murdered. anyone got a youtube for it?
 
haha, they tried so hard to segregate it from Alien and now that's all the critics can compare it to. If Scott had made what is essentially a remake or carbon copy of Alien by using the same atmospheric methods of long drawn out shots and all that shit people would be complaining that he was just hacking himself and didn't try anything new.

damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
they can say that all they want but they really didn't. It was freaking obvious from the trailers that this is tied to Alien if you've seen the film.

Sure, it can have ties and stuff, but that doesn't mean it has to be the exact same type of film stylistically/atmospherically. There are numerous ways to pull off sci-fi horror without doing it the exact same way that the original Alien did. And while the footage thus far has shown things reminiscent of Alien, I wouldn't say that it has ever looked to have the same style that made Alien great. You can have some of the same elements but with a different execution and that's always what Prometheus has looked like to me.
 
Sure, it can have ties and stuff, but that doesn't mean it has to be the exact same type of film stylistically/atmospherically. There are numerous ways to pull off sci-fi horror without doing it the exact same way that the original Alien did. And while the footage thus far has shown things reminiscent of Alien, I wouldn't say that it has ever looked to have the same style that made Alien great. You can have some of the same elements but with a different execution and that's always what Prometheus has looked like to me.

Yeah you're right. I haven't read reviews because I want to see this fresh without much spoilers, but I'm assuming they're not criticizing this film because "it's not like Alien"

They've probably got problems with the plot itself. And honestly at this point in Ridley Scott's career I'm trusting the slightly negative response rather than my hype at this point. If I end up being pleasantly surprised in theaters at how good the film was....then that will be great.

But I'm not banking on it anymore. Despite the amazing cast and marketing for this movie.

edit: okay I just sound like a massive bummer right now haha. I'm out until I see the film opening weekend.
 
Haven't there been a lot of good impressions though as well? I dunno I was just never a fan of seeing some negative reviews and letting them deflate my excitement for a movie. Just seems counter-productive and not much fun. All movies get negative reviews and clearly this movie isn't for everybody anyway. IMO there's nothing worse than being excited about something and then not being excited anymore because some other people out there who you may or may not agree with or share the same ideas about what makes something good wasn't crazy about it.

It's good to be cautiously optimistic, but I'm not exactly losing sleep because some movie critics didn't like a sci-fi horror movie.
 
It's good to be cautiously optimistic, but I'm not exactly losing sleep because some movie critics didn't like a sci-fi horror movie.

This this this. I've found that sci-fi and action movies are 2 of the genres where I really need to just see the movies for myself instead of taking reviews into consideration. Hype for Prometheus is unchanged.
 
Oh oh, hype fading, panic coming in.

I'm not worrying that much personally. Critics and audiences seem to have always disliked this stuff at the premieres and found them later in the 'cult phase'. Just look at John Carpenter's The Thing or even Blade Runner? They were panned hard.
 
and then jonesy wakes up, revealing it all to be a dream. or was it

Men in Black cat knows what's up.
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I'm surprised to see the movie is a huge letdown. Guess I won't be seeing this in imax. No need to waste that money money on a mediocre film. Probably will skip the 3d showing as well.
 
Only uniform impression I see is 4/5, most things are good, 3rd act is a little messy / trying to do a lot. I like my movies a little overstuffed though, so I'm not sure if that will affect me much.
 
By the way, saw this on Twitter, Alex Billington from First Showing,, Steve Weintraub (Collider Frosty) and Peter Sciretta from /film were blown away by the movie.
 
By the way, saw this on Twitter, Alex Billington from First Showing,, Steve Weintraub (Collider Frosty) and Peter Sciretta from /film were blown away by the movie.

Peter Sciretta ‏@slashfilm
I've been given the go ahead. I can tell you I've seen Prometheus and I can confirm that it is awesome.

Steven Weintraub ‏@colliderfrosty
#PROMETHEUS is the type of big budget sci-fi that studios rarely make. Extremely well done. Don't read reviews. Just go see it.

Alex Billington ‏@firstshowing
I just saw #Prometheus last night - it was AWESOME. Loved it. Truly breathtaking, incredible, spectacular, thrilling sci-fi at its best.

Andrew Freund ‏@andrewfreund
Saw @PrometheusMovie last night and it was PHENOMENAL!! A new sci fi epic has been born!! Interviewing the cast today! #prometheus #movies
 
Honestly despite how much I'm looking forward to the film. I'm not surprised that it's getting some negative reception at this stage - I mean it was written partly by Damon Lindelof!
 
I agree. Most have us have seen this coming.
It's also a Ridley Scott sci-fi.
They don't usually really get their due love until years later. Which is a travesty.
 
Honestly despite how much I'm looking forward to the film. I'm not surprised that it's getting some negative reception at this stage - I mean it was written partly by Damon Lindelof!
On Alien:

Critical reaction to the film was initially mixed. Some critics who were not usually favorable towards science fiction, such as Barry Norman of the BBC's Film series, were positive about the film's merits.[58] Others, however, were not: Reviews by Variety, Sight and Sound, Vincent Canby and Leonard Maltin were mixed or negative.[73] A review by Time Out said the film was an "empty bag of tricks whose production values and expensive trickery cannot disguise imaginative poverty".[74]

On Blade Runner:

Blade Runner initially polarized critics: some were displeased with the pacing, while others enjoyed its thematic complexity.

Quite frankly I'd be disappointed if it received universal acclaim.
 
No I'm pretty sure it's Lindelof's fault that this has been getting bad reception. Some of our GAF film scholars have already pointed this out. It has nothing to do with different people having different tastes and expectations. If only Scott had kept to Jon Spaihts' script we wouldn't be seeing such sour reactions.
 
On Alien:



On Blade Runner:



Quite frankly I'd be disappointed if it received universal acclaim.

Yeah then I read shit like this..

It will clear up most mysteries around the first movie and as far I can tell some of the other parts of the franchise, while branching itself out for its own sequel. It also destroys any possible canonicalization of the Aliens vs. Predator movies if I interpreted things right. This alone makes it a good movie. lol

*cough* sounds like something Lindelof would do!
 
Yeah then I read shit like this..



*cough* sounds like something Lindelof would do!

He's already expressed that he went into this not trying to clear up any of the great mysteries surrounding Alien and only provide clarity on a few, that Alien is pretty much a perfect movie and he's reluctant to do anything to diminish it in anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM3z9ahol0A&t=11m0s

Obviously we'll have to see the film and judge for ourselves, but that sounds like the perfect mindset to approach this film.

BTW, Lindelof is known for clearing up mysteries? I thought it was the opposite.
 
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