Half of the cinema where I seen it said that at the end, expect for one dumbass who started clapping until everyone laughed at him. I assume he somehow seen a different version of the movie than the rest of us, like zoukka and co this thread. A version that actually made sense.
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Demoncarnotaur
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brandonh83
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I agree with this. It needed more time. The scope was pretty big and the characters didn't put forth enough of their own input.
Here's what I got out of it. (just gonna spoiler tag the whole thing).
The engineers weaponized a bilogical substance which created life, which they may or may not have actually created themselves. Perhaps they found it some how, or were given it. But that's not really important. So I feel like the engineer at the beginning of the movie probably went against the wishes (or rather acted alone) in the creating of life on the planet earth (either life in general, or simply human life) when he willingly ingested the life creating goop, and fell into the water which then began to form single cell organisms if you remember.
That effectively began life on earth.
This would explain why the engineers (or at least the space jockey in the movie) showed aggression towards humans, because they did not desire to create them. Perhaps they saw humans as a threat because they were a product of that biological goop, much like the Aliens are.
I would imagine that the engineer at the very beginning was probably not the only one to sympathize with humans, though, as if you insert them into early human history (Is such a thing even possible?...Yesss it is.) then it explains earth religions and beliefs. A few examples:
1) We were created in God's image. Well no, we were created in the image of the engineer who ingested the biological goop because our DNA is shared as we basically used his body as a jumping off point in evolution.
2) The engineers appear to be in the form of the Greek ideal, that is they exhibit what the Greeks believed to be the ideal physical form. Very tall, very muscular but with a soft young face. Did the engineers not look like living Greek sculptures?
The movie does an interesting job of questioning religion, and then bringing it back around with the "believe what you want to believe" theme, as well as Shaw's comment "well who created them?", referring to the engineers.
That effectively began life on earth.
This would explain why the engineers (or at least the space jockey in the movie) showed aggression towards humans, because they did not desire to create them. Perhaps they saw humans as a threat because they were a product of that biological goop, much like the Aliens are.
I would imagine that the engineer at the very beginning was probably not the only one to sympathize with humans, though, as if you insert them into early human history (Is such a thing even possible?...Yesss it is.) then it explains earth religions and beliefs. A few examples:
1) We were created in God's image. Well no, we were created in the image of the engineer who ingested the biological goop because our DNA is shared as we basically used his body as a jumping off point in evolution.
2) The engineers appear to be in the form of the Greek ideal, that is they exhibit what the Greeks believed to be the ideal physical form. Very tall, very muscular but with a soft young face. Did the engineers not look like living Greek sculptures?
The movie does an interesting job of questioning religion, and then bringing it back around with the "believe what you want to believe" theme, as well as Shaw's comment "well who created them?", referring to the engineers.
Anyway, probably seeing the movie again tonight. Really enjoyed it, especially David.
Angry Fork
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Have my IMAX tickets ready for today, the theater is probably going to be packed since it's a main NYC theater. I can't wait if only because it's really fun seeing these kinds of movies in an audience I think. Everyone's disappointment is upsetting but oh well, have to see it for myself.
symphonask
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I thought it was quite good. I want to see it again just to take it all in better.
Expendable.
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$3.5 million midnight! Pretty good.
It's not in of itself, the problem is the effects of the goo aren't clearly defined.
heliosRAzi
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Jarmel has been dissappointed in this and in ME3. Accept his word.
I think the black goo was toxic, and had a devastating effect on everyone whether on screen or not.
Making the film under those conditions can be the only explanation.
Bzzzt wrong, this movie might not be very good but ME3 was fantastic, I am going to see this in the afternoon but I have no expectations either way.
DevelopmentArrested
Banned
And? There's dumbasses everywhere.
heliosRAzi
Banned
ME3 is a fun game, but its story takes a huge nosedive at the end. The ending is objectively bad.
Good for you, seriously. I wouldn't recommend anyone from watching the movie as it's not that bad(although it kinda is in the second half).
As for ME3, let's not go into that as I can write a diatribe as to what is wrong with not only the narrative but the gameplay in of itself.Parts of ME 3 are fantastic but the game as a whole has serious problems and is fundamentally flawed in a way even unlike ME 2.
planar1280
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Movie did 3.5 midnights which is better than industry estimates of 2.5 but lower than my estimate of 5
Looks like it will do a 65 million weekend
Looks like it will do a 65 million weekend
Lionel Mandrake
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Yeah, but I always took it as
man trying to tame a wild beast, when apparently there were just using these things for their intended purpose.
I am looking forward to a sequel
featuring Noomi Rapace and her disembodied Fassbender head.
Spike Spiegel
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Those that have seen it, is the 3D surcharge worth it? Seeing it tonight and my theater has two screens for 2D, and one for 3D.
Anton Sugar
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It was weird to feel sad about
David's "death" and not really care about the others, Shaw and the pilot aside. The pilot was only sympathetic because Elba's got dat charm.
heliosRAzi
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I was proud of him boning Charlize Theron off camera.
Hands up.
WyndhamPrice
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Armond White hates it, hype rising.
Me, me, me!
Just got back from the BFI IMAX showing. Gorgeous film, 3D was also quite good.
It was definitely a film I enjoyed thoroughly. It just left a lot of questions for us to discuss about.
He recently got caught using a word that was invented by Wes Anderson in The Royal Tenenbaums and even misspelled it for added insult.
White may know a lot about cinema, but he sure as hell can't write about it.
Anton Sugar
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Hands up.
The 3D is very well done especially in tandem with IMAX
MarshMellow96
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I have to say...
I liked Fifield...
I liked Fifield...
"Bullshit."
Anton Sugar
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I liked him, too. He played a great crackhead in Harry Brown.
Also didn't make the connection that Emun Elliot and Kate Dickie were both in Game of Thrones (Marillion and Lysa Arryn).
Slept on it. Woke up. Even more disappointed now as I reflect on it. Truly not worth admission. Felt like watching a two-hour trailer devoid of any real characters, motivations or even any genuine thrills, action or horror.
I'm trying not to sound dramatic or hyperbolic, but it really was that terrible.
I'm trying not to sound dramatic or hyperbolic, but it really was that terrible.
MarshMellow96
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Escape Goat
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Going to see the IMAX 3D. My first 3D movie ever. I will support Ridley's endeavors.
Spike Spiegel
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The nearest IMAX theater to me is about a two-hour drive. What about regular 3D, like Real3D? I think that's what my theater uses.
Saw this today and it was bad.
I mean, it wasn't awful by any means (the acting was quite good), but the entire plot and the ways things unfolded were predictable and cringe worthy.
Also they're so many holes in the story - in addition to never really revealing anything. I thought the ending was ridiculous to say the least.
I would not recommend this at all. Perhaps wait for a directors cut to reveal more story.
I mean, it wasn't awful by any means (the acting was quite good), but the entire plot and the ways things unfolded were predictable and cringe worthy.
Also they're so many holes in the story - in addition to never really revealing anything. I thought the ending was ridiculous to say the least.
I would not recommend this at all. Perhaps wait for a directors cut to reveal more story.
Worst character in the film in my opinion. So cringe worthy.
MightyHedgehog
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Loved it. Saw it 3D, too. Only thing that bothers me that the movie didn't seem to answer or hint at where the
aliens that were inside and burst out of all of those Engineers' corpses piled at the door went.
VistraNorrez
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Thank you, but I'm trying to be as honest as possible without any sort of hyperbole. Hyperbole just isn't going to work for honest discussion. I also want to reasonably compare my experience of Prometheus with my first time watching Alien. It is not fair at all to compare this with all the times you've watched Alien and with all the acclaim it has built up over the years.
I've been thinking about Prometheus all day since the midnight showing and it's only grown with esteem. I just really liked so much about it. I just finished rewatching the first 35 minutes or so of Alien too. I still don't understand how fans of Alien don't at least like Prometheus. The only thing that makes sense to me is you didn't like the information presented in the film. Which there really is no arguing about. No story can appeal to everyone.
But I really can't wrap my head around people criticizing characterization as a major fault of Prometheus if you view Alien as a masterpiece. Really can you tell me much about the character of Kane, just as an example? There isn't much to him. He's British, an officer on a towing ship, a smoker, curious and is willing to follow orders. I can't think of a single line of dialogue he delivered either. I have no idea if he's really good at what he does. He seems a bit dumb to stick his head over a hatching alien egg, but like I said he's curious. Yet I liked him pretty quick and every time I watch Alien I dread his fate.
I'm really interested to see how Prometheus fairs on a second viewing. Maybe I will like it less.
Also my brother was saying how the last 20 minutes or so elevated the movie for him. He wasn't digging the slow setup that Scott was constructing. For me the David sequences were my favorite parts of the film, but I did love how it escalated in the end. I had no problems with the editing either. Not sure how adding scenes would've helped. It built in a really natural way at an excellent pace. There is no reason for those last 5-10 minutes to move any slower. I can't imagine a single worthwhile moment to insert in there.
And just for anecdotal evidence, plenty of people clapped after Prometheus at my midnight IMAX 3D showing and I heard a few comments about how it was "awesome". I'm sure there were disappointed people in theater but none of their comments were audible.
There is just so much more I want to talk about. There is a lot of interesting comparisons to make to Blade Runner for this film. It shares far more in common thematically with that than the original Alien.
arts&crafts
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I am seeing it tonight. Now normally 3D ruins the experience. You pay more to wear sunglasses in a dark room and occasionally but very rarely see a tiny bit of 3dness. Is this movie actually a good use of 3d or should i just see it good ol fashion cinema style?
mr stroke
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very well done IMO. The scenes on the ship with holograms look stunning.
SUPARSTARX
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I'm normally not a 3D fan but it wasn't done too bad here. One problem during my experience was this weird lighting in my theater on the ceiling from the screen that had one dimmer than the other and it just bugged me out.
I liked the hologram 3D the most.
I liked the hologram 3D the most.
You're looking at no one less than H. R. Giger. The guy has amazing designs and one of the most creepiest/disturbing too.
Expendable.
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They still use Windows that far in the future? Invest!
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I wasn't disappointed, but I also wasn't really blown away.
Maybe it'll click better on a 2nd viewing, but I had fun.
The 3D was great. One of the first movies where it wasn't too damn dark because of the 3D, and I thought a movie like this would really suffer from that.
I'm glad to at least finally know wtf the Space Jockey was. I guess that's the best thing I got out of the movie. The characters were shit, it was more gruesome than scary, and the xeno at the end seemed like they did it just because they felt like they had to.
The 3D was great. One of the first movies where it wasn't too damn dark because of the 3D, and I thought a movie like this would really suffer from that.
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