Microsoft Surface Tablet announced

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I'm not concerned about blind consumers, Apple has excellent usability features to help them out.

So everyone who can't see it is blind? You really think everyone who has bought the new iPad, iPhone 4, and iPhone 4S really can tell the difference or cares? That's a pretty bold statement there. It's a nice perk, but I doubt it's a deal breaker for many.
 
The million dollar question for me is, and maybe it's been covered already, will the pro version be powerful enough for legit PC gaming?

Highly doubt it.

Diablo 3 may be the top end of the spectrum on what it can run. (and I'm being generous)
 
Not interested. I'll stick with my RMBP.

Also, the pose in this picture... How awkward

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Verge hands-on:
Microsoft is only showing off the Windows RT version of the Surface, which means ARM CPU and a thinner form factor. The design and build of the tablets the company has here feel very polished, with tight, clean lines. The device was also surprisingly light. The 1366 x 768 display also looked crystal clear at a variety of angles.

The only bummer right here. Might be able to look past it because of the stylus, but we'll see...

Stylus is part of the Pro package.
 
I don't think anyone expects to put in a xbox dvd in this thing and it expect it to work.

No, but why would MS create a piece of hardware perfectly capable of playing all 360 games, and then limit it to XBLA?

Why would a consumer want to buy something that has the hardware of an Xbox 360 inside of it, that is for some reason software limited to only MS's "arcade" games?

I said nothing of Xbox DVDs. If MS was to release some device that was meant for digital distribution, that could run Xbox software, I somehow doubt they'd limit you only to their XBLA store.

In fact, we'd probably start seeing day one Xbox 360 releases on the Xbox Marketplace for DD if they had some DD only device they were trying to sell.
 
the fact that this thing makes note taking so easy, is reason alone to make it worth it to students. Not to mention basic tablet features. Plus XBLA for gamers. Plus windows 8 OS on a highly portable system.

I haven't been this excited for a product in ages.
 
Nah, they won't give a shit and this thing will flop big time.

Zune all over again.


Why not have an Xbox Tablet to compete with iPad and a Windows Tablet for pros?
Not everybody likes the Apple universe. I think this could be pretty big.

Comparing it the phone or music devices market doesn't make sense to me. I'd go for the blackberry crowd though.
 
Highly doubt it.

Diablo 3 may be the top end of the spectrum on what it can run.
Diablo 3 runs fine in 4-player inferno on my HD3000, and the only other intensive game i've run on it is mass effect 3. Both games run rather well for an integrated card, and the 4000 has a lot of improvements.

It's such a shame that the pro version won't be out sooner for students to pick up before college, I would have LOVED to have one of these.
 
Not having Cortex A15s on the RT is a shame (time frame obviously being an impediment), and I'd love to see how the i5 stacks up in terms of battery life to the usual cast of ARM/x86/MIPS competitors.

I still don't see how RT is going to make a significant dent on mobiles, compared to Apple and Google, in the near term.



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So everyone who can't see it is blind? You really think everyone who has bought the new iPad, iPhone 4, and iPhone 4S really can tell the difference or cares? That's a pretty bold statement there. It's a nice perk, but I doubt it's a deal breaker for many.

Whether they care or not isn't relevant, anyone with good eyesight should be able to tell the difference. My recommendation to anyone who can't tell the difference is to see an optometrist.
 
Some guys make me laugh.


First off this is using an i5 ivy bridge which will be either dual or quad core. ACER showed off the w710 which has a bigger screen (12.6) and an ivy bridge and they claim over 8 hours.


I would expect this to be about the same. 8 hours is a good life for the battery and puts it in line with the ipad 1 and 2 and don't forget this will be a full pc chip in which you can run all your apps and games.
 
What some people are missing is the appeal for businesses on the Pro Version. Running a full MS Office suite and having the Digital Ink makes it one hell of a piece of business hardware.

This is also why no Xbox branding. They're not just aiming for casual users, they want the business users as well.
Needs to be quoted, I think this is critical to their strategy
 
No, but why would MS create a piece of hardware perfectly capable of playing all 360 games, and then limit it to XBLA?

Why would a consumer want to buy something that has the hardware of an Xbox 360 inside of it, that is for some reason software limited to only MS's "arcade" games?

I said nothing of Xbox DVDs. If MS was to release some device that was meant for digital distribution, that could run Xbox software, I somehow doubt they'd limit you only to their XBLA store.

In fact, we'd probably start seeing day one Xbox 360 releases on the Xbox Marketplace for DD if they had some DD only device they were trying to sell.

This tablet could not run 360 games...
 
I presume they patents or something but do we expect to see Apple, or more likely 3rd parties release a rip off of the keyboard for the iPad?
 
It really sucks that they couldn't get this out right in time for the fall semester :| An August release date would just be monstrous.
 
The million dollar question for me is, and maybe it's been covered already, will the pro version be powerful enough for legit PC gaming?

It's Ivy Bridge so it should have Intel's HD 4000 graphics along with it. It's not going to run anything modern at 1080p, but it should easily handle indie game stuff.
 
The million dollar question for me is, and maybe it's been covered already, will the pro version be powerful enough for legit PC gaming?

the i5 is one that uses integrated 4000 graphics, right?

If so, then yea it can do a lot of games. "legit PC gaming" is a very relative question. It depends on what specific games you're trying to play.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57418061-292/at-long-last-a-credible-3d-gaming-chip-from-intel/

30fps on Street Fighter 4 @ 768p.

24fps on FarCry 2 @ 768p.

"Playable" on Skyrim @ low settings

Their test model was an i7-based system, though. so snatch off a few fps for an idea. You'll want to play games more like Bastion, Braid, Bioshock and Half-Life 2 than Crysis, Diablo 3 and Battlefield 3.
 
the fact that this thing makes note taking so easy, is reason alone to make it worth it to students. Not to mention basic tablet features. Plus XBLA for gamers. Plus windows 8 OS on a highly portable system.

I haven't been this excited for a product in ages.

I agree. I have both an iPad and an iPhone and anyone who even thinks the iPad can be a productivity tool in any way is kidding themselves. I don't even like typing notes or e-mails on that thing.

Anyways, kinda funny seeing the iOS people downplaying the product. Apple announces a way crappier version of Maps with a completely useless flyover view and people are gasping at how amazing it is.
 
Meh.

This is only shocking because it's coming from Microsoft. The only real worthy hardware here will be the Pro Surface, which if priced similarly to a MacBook Air/Ultrabook is completely uninteresting to me. That keyboard cover is cool in theory but if I'm paying $1k then I want to feel the "click" of my keyboard presses. Ultrabooks and MBA's are already incredibly thin and light, so unless the Pro Surfaces are way cheaper I don't see the appeal here.
There's a sexiness to the MBA. It's like the Mercedes Benz of the ultrabook market. At least that's how I see it.

Microsoft Surface is definitely a game changer in the tablet/ultrabook space. It will do very well.
 
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the i5 is one that uses integrated 4000 graphics, right?

If so, then yea it can do a lot of games. "legit PC gaming" is a very relative question. It depends on what specific games you're trying to play.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57418061-292/at-long-last-a-credible-3d-gaming-chip-from-intel/

30fps on Street Fighter 4 @ 768p.

24fps on FarCry 3 @ 768p.

"Playable" on Skyrim @ low settings

Their test model was an i7-based system, though. so snatch off a few fps for an idea.

Dota 2 runs quite well even on the HD 3000 ;)
 
So.... with MS fucking over all it's hardware partners with this, Google promising with all it's heart that Motorola devices WON'T be getting an advantage *lol* it seems like the Dell/HP/Samsung/HTCs of the world get tossed aside.
 
This has business application written all over it. Exactly what I was waiting for. Thank you Microsoft.
 
Until I hear the specs I will be reserved, but from everything they showed this is how a tablet should be. Not like an iPad.
 
the i5 is one that uses integrated 4000 graphics, right?

If so, then yea it can do a lot of games. "legit PC gaming" is a very relative question. It depends on what specific games you're trying to play.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57418061-292/at-long-last-a-credible-3d-gaming-chip-from-intel/

30fps on Street Fighter 4 @ 768p.

24fps on FarCry 3 @ 768p.

"Playable" on Skyrim @ low settings

Their test model was an i7-based system, though. so snatch off a few fps for an idea. You'll want to play games more like Bastion, Braid, Bioshock and Half-Life 2 than Crysis, Diablo 3 and Battlefield 3.

Fary Cry 2 was what, below 720p or under on Xbox 360 at 30fps? Not bad. Call of Duty runs at what, 540p or something? Play it at that resolution I wonder what fps you get.
 
Is the digital ink feature Pro-only? I think it could actually make a difference, after all these years of scoffing at pens as input tools, like half of my friends have bought stylii (?) for DrawSomething etc.
 
I can see MS would start a game streaming service, doesn't require powerful hardware but you need a decent internet connection. Works well within their plans in pushing the live marketplace.
 
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