Exactly. It kills all other tablets, ultrabooks and laptops for me. Just what I was hoping for, but never expected them to deliver.
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Exactly. It kills all other tablets, ultrabooks and laptops for me. Just what I was hoping for, but never expected them to deliver.
fizzelopeguss
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Ahh cool then, could be one of those "wait till you see it in person" items.
My stream kept cutting out, and all i got was single frames an commentary from the verge dude.
Was your livestream better?
fluffydelusions
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Lol, because it's a full on OS not some phone OS tacked into a tablet?
on the x86 version yes.
Pro version, yes
the pro version, yes
Why muddle the waters at launch? Seems like it was intentional. They did not disambiguate things well on stage. The pro is a real game changer and they aren't even showing it at the presser.
I am truly interested in the pro myself.
fluffydelusions
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They are just trying to piss off Google for next week lol
the difference is the surface doesn't have a faux metallic texture. I would be fine with the S3 if it forgoed that stupid decision.
It's obvious that the people who are making the 'retina display is overrated' comments have never used an iPad 3 for an extended amount of time. The difference is night and day. I have a hard time going back to my regular laptop/monitor after using my ipad for a while because text looks so much better on the ipad.
Then again, there are some people who can't tell the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray.. So, yeah.
Then again, there are some people who can't tell the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray.. So, yeah.
Complex Shadow
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are we sure its not gonna be x64 compatible?
Yes I'm waiting on this. I plan to drop my Nexus phone for Phone 8. As Whitta mentioned earlier, I want my "ecosystem".
I think the apps will get there.
Dreams-Visions
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You think the Pro will be $699?
While that would be nice, I think that's hardly realistic. They said it's priced to compete with ultrabooks. As such, I think your price guess is much too low. But without a real pricing announcement, your guess is as good as mine.
But no, I don't think $699 is realistic at all. I don't think you'll find many people willing to join you on that island either. Microsoft isn't trying to fuck over their partners like that.
you guys are aware that there will be a lot of Windows 8 tablets worthy of your money?
It's like people think there's just 1 Windows 8 tablet coming that will have a digitizer and look good. Where have you guys been?
that was mentioned during the actual presentation.
It's core i5, so.. x86-64 version?
fluffydelusions
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I use my gfs iPad 3 everyday and have no problem going back to my laptop which is 1080p @ 17"
TheLegendary
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Wow. I want one now. Home run from MS; just what they needed.
They said ultrabook pricing. Find me an ultrabook for 700. They said it during the conference.
Why do people seem to think the pro is going to be 700. They already gave us a ballpark 1k and up.
What does optically bonded mean?
Good to know. Seems like it should be a no brainer to integrate all of these platforms as much as possible.
when i say x86 i mean x86/64. i'm sure it will.
Glorified G
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Again, you made that assumption. No one is upset, just pointing out you went off on a tangent about my original question, that's all.
Metal Gear?!
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Android Tablets (sans maybe the Kindle Fire) are already dead in the water. This isn't going to affect them one bit.
Technosteve
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no that's liquid metal that they were excited about amorphous metal
Color me impressed. I was think about a Win 8 ultrabook and pairing it with a Kindle Fire 2 or some other cheap tablet later this year as I have no tablet and just a CR-48 for laptop. This might have everything I need right there.
-Full Windows 8
-Expandable storage / Peripherals
-Keyboard (Smart design)
-Stylus (Finally a tablet done right!)
Very sleek package too. If they can just keep the Pro in the $800 range I'd be set but I may be willing to swing a bit higher if it's reviewed well.
-Full Windows 8
-Expandable storage / Peripherals
-Keyboard (Smart design)
-Stylus (Finally a tablet done right!)
Very sleek package too. If they can just keep the Pro in the $800 range I'd be set but I may be willing to swing a bit higher if it's reviewed well.
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Complex Shadow
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god. if it wasn't for the fact that the price point wasn't announced i'd be so happy right now.
Kibbles
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1080p on a 10" is shitty? What?
Well Intel has ultrabooks at $699 so I don't see why Pro wouldn't come in around that mark, maybe say $749 as it has the stylus and other stuff.
lunarworks
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I love the rabid fanboy-esque chauvinism that some IT people have:
Anything Apple is a toy, not to be taken seriously.
Anything Microsoft is a serious tool, for serious users. (Rainbow coloured consumer interface, and Windows RT doesn't support Active Directory, does it?)
SquiddyCracker
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It's a shame that they are insisting on a tard version of this tablet.
Why not just make a Budget and a Pro version, both running proper windows?
The way it is now, I'm only interested in the pro - but it'll probably be way too expensive.
Why not just make a Budget and a Pro version, both running proper windows?
The way it is now, I'm only interested in the pro - but it'll probably be way too expensive.
outunderthestars
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Because some people don't need or want full windows on their tablet?
The Faceless Master
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$100 tier differences seem to work fine for others.
now, i'm not saying it will be priced under $1000, i'm just saying that your specific reason in that post is weak.
Baller. PhD
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Why not just get an ultrabook? If you're unfolding the Surface and using it like a laptop then WTF is the point? As someone who's used an iPad since launch I can confirm that even the tiniest bit of weight makes a difference. Going from the iPad 2 to the new iPad sucked ass, and the Pro Surface is twice as heavy as that. You'll never want to use that thing as a consumption tablet, it'll only be useful on a desk. So why bother with the tablet in the first place?
Honest question.
Al-ibn Kermit
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If they're considering iPads, then I'm sure WindowsRT will be acceptable.
The iPad3 has a higher resolution which is great of you so lots of PDF viewing. But otherwise I think teachers would prefer something with a built in keyboard and Office support.
I feel the prices have to be relatively close to tempt customers to upgrade.
Seems like a pretty solid device, much better than what OEM's are putting out. Pretty industrial design. Touch Cover is a nice evolution of Apple's Smart Cover - building the keyboard into the cover was a clever idea and I expect all the competition to follow suit on that.
Besides that, not really seeing what the RT version offers over an iPad. The Surface Pro which is the model everyone seems to be excited about ships later on and is a huge question mark right now (no pricing, battery life, wasn't even shown to press, etc).
Besides that, not really seeing what the RT version offers over an iPad. The Surface Pro which is the model everyone seems to be excited about ships later on and is a huge question mark right now (no pricing, battery life, wasn't even shown to press, etc).
Thank you Einstein, I know all of this. My point is that none of the other manufacturer's seem to have gotten the industrial design right with the Android tablets and that has absolutely nothing to do with the OS it's running.
This actually looks cool and functional and seems to have fairly good build (from what we know of it so far). The only thing that looks like it might be comparable for my purposes is the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 in the Android ecosystem.
I love Android, but Google really has let its tablet side of things fester far too long, and it's going to come around and bite them in the ass.
Dreams-Visions
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I think the version everyone wants here is the Pro version. The question is whether they're going to spring for one when that shit gets priced in that $1000 range.
As nVidiot mentioned, none of this stuff is actually new. It's an intel-based Windows 8 tablet...of which we've seen many that also look fantastic. Yet people are acting like they've never seen a Windows 8 tablet before. Now this may be the case...but then people should make their way to the Windows 8 thread and see all the shit they've been missing.
this is where I disagree. vs WindowsRT, I think the iPad is a much more compelling choice. Gigantic store and ecosystem, huge 3rd party hardware support. To me, the best feature RT has is a version of Office to which there are several iOS alternatives.
The Pro version is--to me--the product that differentiates the line.
Wait you really think the pro is going to be 100 dollars more than the RT. No way in hell they said it during the conference.
RT is equivalent to android tablets - 500 - 700
Pro is equivalent to ultrabook pricing 1k- 1.5k
The only thing other people are doing is changing storage size not ICs. No touch input, no x86 support. Those are big things.
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