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[Guevara]

Michael David Dunn will be brought from Brevard County to Jacksonville after entering a not-guilty plea to charges of murder and attempted murder in the Friday shooting death of a 17-year-old student at a Jacksonville gas station.

Dunn, 45, of Satellite Beach, waived extradition and should be en route back to Jacksonville before Thursday to face charges in the death of Jordan Russell Davis, according to Lt. Tod Goodyear, the Brevard County Sheriff’s Office spokesman.

A gun collector in Jacksonville for his son’s wedding, Dunn told police he felt “threatened” after an argument with the Wolfson High student over loud music coming from a sports-utility vehicle parked next to him at the Gate station at 8251 Southside Blvd. Davis was in the back seat when “there were words exchanged,” followed by gunfire at 7:40 p.m., said Jacksonville homicide Lt. Rob Schoonover.

“Our suspect produced a weapon and started firing into the vehicle. Our victim was shot a couple of times,” Schoonover said. “ … They were listening to the music. It was loud; they [other teens] admitted that. But I mean that is not a reason for someone to open fire on them.”

http://m.jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-11-26/story/brevard-suspect-pleads-not-guilty-slaying-wolfson-student

 

[Rebel Leader]

knew it
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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

 

[Borgnine]

Rap car.

 

[ronito]

If only those teens had guns this wouldn't have happened.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Everything about this story was correct in my head before I even opened the link to confirm.

 

[WeAreStarStuff]

knew it
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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

Given the choices it kind of had to be Florida.

 

[Count Dookkake]

knew it
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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

Some of his best friends are probably black, right?

 

[dankir]

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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

Well what else could it be? Dude felt threatened by the loud music so pump the car full of lead............terrible just terrible.



I will love to hear the white dude's defense argument.

 

[Guevara]

Everything about this story was correct in my head before I even opened the link to confirm.

Sadly this.

 

[Kinyou]

So was he a concealed carrier?

 

[RoboPlato]

Well what else could it be? Dude felt threatened by the loud music so pump the car full of lead............terrible just terrible.



I will live to hear the white dude's defense argument.

"I just wanted to scare them."

 

[scar tissue]

If only those teens had guns this wouldn't have happened.

That's it folks, close it up!

Edit: While it doesn't look like an inherently racist shooting, I do think that it's possible the guy had an easier time killing a black guy than he would have with a white guy.
Hard to prove, obviously.

 

[Joel Was Right]

knew it
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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

Because the victim was black? I don't understand why this would be classed as such.

 

[Steelrain]

Wow that dude has some issues.

 

[Row]

I'm guessing he never watched do the right thing

 

[alphaNoid]

Rap car.

Rap car and Gun thread in one?

 

[jon bones]

knew it
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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

and rightfully so, by the sound of it.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

because it probably was.

$100 says he didn't vote Obama.

 

[akira28]

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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

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[Rebel Leader]

Because the victim was black? I don't understand why this would be classed as such.

Look at the George Zimmerman shooting.

I keep hearing he killed the kid because he was black =/
I'm just getting tired of it

 

[Deleted member 17706]

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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

Any reason to give the killer the benefit of the doubt otherwise?

I wonder exactly what attribute of the victim it was that caused him to feel "threatened."

 

[Count Dookkake]

Look at the George Zimmerman shooting.

I keep hearing he killed the kid because he was black =/
I'm just getting tired of it

Oh, this is an interesting turn of events.

 

[Guevara]

Black Florida teens are an endangered species.

 

[Slayven]

Look at the George Zimmerman shooting.

I keep hearing he killed the kid because he was black =/
I'm just getting tired of it

Cause he did.

 

[mre]

Because the victim was black? I don't understand why this would be classed as such.

Did Dunn kill Davis because he was black? I doubt it. Did the fact that the teenagers in the car were black males play on Dunn's insecurities and contribute to his willingness to open fire at any perceived "threat"? I can't say for certain, not knowing the guy, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.

 

[Cagey]

Look at the George Zimmerman shooting.

I keep hearing he killed the kid because he was black =/
I'm just getting tired of it

The rest of us get tired of the killings happening...

 

[Rebel Leader]

Cause he did.

He did? I never heard that. Oh well

The rest of us get tired of the killings happening...

Neither are preventable =(

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Well, loud music can damage your ears, so that's clearly assault.

Spoiler

I hope he gets locked up, what a maniac

 

[DUFFMCWALIN]

Kinda looks like Rex Ryan.

 

[Slayven]

Black Florida teens are an endangered species.

Black American males are an endangered species.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

This has been on the news here in Jacksonville.Such a meaningless killing.All he had to do is drive away.

 

[PK Gaming]

(sees images before reading the op)

(was the black teen the gun collector and the white male was the victim? Doubtful but...)

(nope)

god fucking damnit florida. why didn't he just drive away or... you know not shoot him? ugh, I hope that bastard gets charged for second degree murder.

 

[Kusagari]

Jesus.

If you're a black male stay the hell out of North Florida.

 

[Rebel Leader]

(sees images before reading the op)

(was the black teen the gun collector and the white male was the victim? Doubtful but...)

(nope)

god fucking damnit florida. why didn't he just drive away or... you know not shoot him? ugh, I hope that bastard gets charged for second degree murder.

He should be.

 

[akira28]

Jesus.

If you're a black male stay the hell out of North Florida.

A guy I used to work with told me this years ago. And his wife was black. He also said forget about the panhandle.

 

[Zee-Row]

I always thought Duval County had a high black population.

 

[mre]

god fucking damnit florida. why didn't he just drive away or... you know not shoot him? ugh, I hope that bastard gets charged for second degree murder.

Having no desire to look up Florida's law, I'll comment based upon my knowledge of Alabama law. In Alabama, at least, prosecutors could charge him with capital murder based upon the various aggravators alleged in the story, specifically, (1) firing from within a vehicle and (2) firing into an occupied vehicle.

Unfortunately, I'd be surprised if they charged him with a capital crime, even assuming some sort of equivalency between Alabama and Florida law, but I would be all for it if they did should the facts as presented in the news story hold up over time.

 

[Blue Submarine No. 6]

He should be.

It should be first degree murder; carrying a handgun - a weapon designed exclusively for killing people - should be considered "intent". But this is the Southern US, where it's considered a "God given right"™

 

[Canis lupus]

This is fucking crazy.

 

[Steelrain]

A guy I used to work with told me this years ago. And his wife was black. He also said forget about the panhandle.

Ehh the Panhandle isn't too bad. I lived near PC for a while.


Pretty cool place. Most of the problems come from tourists.

 

[shinobi602]

If only those teens had guns this wouldn't have happened.

Shit like this pisses me off.

That is not the pro-guns argument at all. But I'm not going to derail this thread more than it already has.

 

[The Technomancer]

I'm sure if the man had a club he'd have just bludgeoned the kid instead

 

[Rebel Leader]

It should be first degree murder; carrying a handgun - a weapon designed exclusively for killing people - should be considered "intent". But this is the Southern US, where it's considered a "God given right"™

he'll just probably plea down to manslaughter though

 

[yn-neko hates a cat]

knew it
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This will be classified as a racist shooting =/

We'll if racists motives are found during trial then why wouldn't it be. Him saying it's "The music" is probably a lesser punishment.

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What even made this man feel he had a right to "confront them" and him shooting from inside of his care into there care while they were still inside is threatening to him how? Did the melody and the lyrics of what present mortal danger to himself. Did the words of the teen seem threatening to him? Has he even considered how threatening his words may have came of to the teen if that was going to be his reaction?

 

[speedline]

I wonder what words were exchanged? Unjustified killing nonetheless, but the loud music was just a precursor to the altercation. Sad news for sure.

 

[Deified Data]

It's sad when you can just look at the pictures posted in the OP, without any of the story, and still get 90% of the story's context.

 

[Emily Chu]

Obama's Rap Car

 

[ComputerMKII]

 

[Perspicacity]

Shit like this pisses me off.

That is not the pro-guns argument at all. But I'm not going to derail this thread more than it already has.

Yes it is.

 

[SmokyDave]

Depressingly predictable for the most part. I have to say though, firing from inside your car into another car is so profoundly cowardly that I was somewhat surprised.