Star Trek Into Darkness - Official poster revealed, teaser trailer now online

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I'm convinced it's a swerve. Seems to on the nose to be a "hint" at who the antagonist is.

Perhaps. But at this point I'm assuming that the antagonist is Khan. They've obviously gone the Bane-esque super strong, super smart genetically engineered yadda-yadda soldier route with this interpretation of the character.

Presumably he's back for revenge against the world that either created, shunned, kissed, punched, gently mocked etc, etc, him and the rest of his genetically engineered kin hence the family reference.

The Enterprise emerging from the water was very cool...

Enterprise? I assumed that was the Abrams universe
Botany Bay.

You might be right.

Not sure why I spoilered that.
 
About the spoiler scene, from the Japanese trailer. I highly suspect it's a piece of misdirection. It just has to be....

Or else. Wow, that was a very stupid idea.
 
Summer 2013:

May:
- Iron Man 3
- The Great Gatsby
- Star Trek Into Darkness
- The Fast And The Furious 6
- The Hangover Part III

June:
- After Earth
- The End Of The World
- Man Of Steel
- Monsters University
- World War Z
- Kick-Ass 2

July:
- The Lone Ranger
- Grown Ups 2
- Pacific Rim
- The Wolverine

August:
- 300 2
- RED 2
- Elysium

Pretty fucking "meh" summer.

I can live with that.

With a title "...Into Darkness", how can anyone be surprised at the tonal shift from the previous movie? They feel that they've earned the viewers trust with the first movie and to conform with the trend of other franchise sequels, this one is the dark, serious movie with all the consequences.
 
I liked the glimpses of the alien planet we saw, I recall them scouting for locations that would suit a jungle planet in the early days of production.
 
Indeed, I thought they would do a few films before going down that arc.

Well, their could be by the end of this movie. But I think it's more likely this is in the trailer to throw people off. I doubt they would put this in the movie and so obviously spoil it in the first trailer.

Yeah I suspect it could be a throw, they'd know the Trek audience would pick up on such an obvious hint. At least I hope so.

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For what it's worth, from the way the scene is shot and the position of their hands, it could be a role reversal

Think we have a winner.
 
you know what would've been great for a ST movie?

They travel to a planet of where they almost see delusional things that can't be real but the danger apparently is as bones and others are killed.


Then it's revealed it was just some sort of pleasure dream planet thing. Yup, just like that episode. What a twist, there was never any threat in the whole movie.
 
Enterprise? I assumed that was the Abrams universe
Botany Bay.

You might be right.

Not sure why I spoilered that.

First one definitely isn't the Ent. Much more freighter like.

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Second one might be, as we see shots of an Ent-like bridge turning 90 degrees and people falling. However the nacelles and struts are more like the original timeline's.

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Either way i think it's pretty clear Cumberbatch's initial attack on Earth is caused by crashing a starship into Starfleet HQ.
 
you know what would've been great for a ST movie?

They travel to a planet of where they almost see delusional things that can't be real but the danger apparently is as bones and others are killed.


Then it's revealed it was just some sort of pleasure dream planet thing. Yup, just like that episode. What a twist, there was never any threat in the whole movie.

So it would be like every other shitty Voyager episode
 
First one definitely isn't the Ent. Much more freighter like.

That's what I thought when I first saw it.

Either way i think it's pretty clear Cumberbatch's initial attack on Earth is caused by crashing a starship into Starfleet HQ.

I'm calling it right now. I bet this is the 9 minutes of footage that they are going to be showing before The Hobbit in select cinemas.

Khan causing some Enterprise class (sister ship?) to come crashing down to Earth and wiping out some major Federation HQ or shindig filled with brass.

The final shot of the sequence is a severed hand floating down the Thames a cold sausage roll tightly grasped in it's cold dead fingers.

The last but might be more of a long shot.
 
I think the first one is on of the Enterprise's nacelles no?

Looks like it. The reboot Ent has it's nacelles very close to the saucer section. If you got a scale model of it and turn it on it's side it matches the picture of the ship coming out of the water. (doing that right now with my model hehe). It probably is the Ent
 
First one definitely isn't the Ent. Much more freighter like.

Second one might be, as we see shots of an Ent-like bridge turning 90 degrees and people falling. However the nacelles and struts are more like the original timeline's.

I think it's the other way around. The numbers after the NCC- look like 17 too. Look at this model of the 2009 Enterprise:
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It's very close to the ship emerging from the water, on the other hand the nacelles on the one crashing into the water seem way too far apart.
 
First one definitely isn't the Ent. Much more freighter like.

iH4BhRtrYJwys.png


Second one might be, as we see shots of an Ent-like bridge turning 90 degrees and people falling. However the nacelles and struts are more like the original timeline's.

ieLMyrzEzwZu1.png

StarTrek_enterprise_wall01_1280-thumb-550x293-13909.jpg

USS_Enterprise_A.jpg


Either way i think it's pretty clear Cumberbatch's initial attack on Earth is caused by crashing a starship into Starfleet HQ.



Top one is the enterprise, bottom one is not.


Also, that 'hand' scene in the jap trailer, who says the person wearing the black shirt isn't cumberbach's character?
 
When you really boil it down, weren't most of the original timeline Trek movies basically about revenge too?

ST1 - V'ger comes back to take revenge on Earth
ST2 - Khan takes revenge
ST3 - Klingons want Genesis to take revenge on everyone, Kirk wants revenge on Klingons for killing David
ST4 - Space whales want revenge on Earth
ST5 - Not about revenge, but not about much else
ST6 - Klingons want revenge again
ST7 - Malcom McDowell wants revenge for surviving Space Ribbon
ST8 - Borg want revenge on Earth AGAIN for thwarting all their previous plans
ST9 - Too lame to remember because not about revenge
ST10 - A noun a verb, Tom Hardy and REVENGE

(somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but you get the point)
 
When you really boil it down, weren't most of the original timeline Trek movies basically about revenge too?

ST1 - V'ger comes back to take revenge on Earth
ST2 - Khan takes revenge
ST3 - Klingons want Genesis to take revenge on everyone, Kirk wants revenge on Klingons for killing David
ST4 - Space whales want revenge on Earth
ST5 - Not about revenge, but not about much else
ST6 - Klingons want revenge again
ST7 - Malcom McDowell wants revenge for surviving Space Ribbon
ST8 - Borg want revenge on Earth AGAIN for thwarting all their previous plans
ST9 - Too lame to remember because not about revenge
ST10 - A noun a verb, Tom Hardy and REVENGE

(somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but you get the point)

What you're doing is confusing the very essence of drama (which is conflict) with simple revenge.

In short even tongue-in-cheek you're wrong.
 
Not terribly exciting, and to top it off Lindeloff's name pops in the credits.

Will watch for the visuals anyway, and for the cast. I really liked Urban and Pegg on ST2009.
 
V'ger wasn't taking revenge. It was searching for its maker and found annoying fleshbags along the way.
From a computer's standpoint, that's gotta be as revengeful as it gets ;)

Even if we pull that one out of the Revenge column, that's still 7 out of 10 movies solidly based around themes of revenge.

Busty said:
What you're doing in confusing the very essence of drama (which is conflict) with simple revenge.

In short even tongue-in-cheek you're wrong.
So serious.
 
Haven't seen Star Trek Wrath of Khan, should I see the first Star Trek before watching it?

You don't need to. It's actually a sequel to a TOS episode but you don't need to see that either.


From a computer's standpoint, that's gotta be as revengeful as it gets ;)

Even if we pull that one out of the Revenge column, that's still 7 out of 10 movies solidly based around themes of revenge.

No, that's like me killing ants because they've infested my attic.
 
When you really boil it down, weren't most of the original timeline Trek movies basically about revenge too?

ST1 - V'ger comes back to take revenge on Earth
ST2 - Khan takes revenge
ST3 - Klingons want Genesis to take revenge on everyone, Kirk wants revenge on Klingons for killing David
ST4 - Space whales want revenge on Earth
ST5 - Not about revenge, but not about much else
ST6 - Klingons want revenge again
ST7 - Malcom McDowell wants revenge for surviving Space Ribbon
ST8 - Borg want revenge on Earth AGAIN for thwarting all their previous plans
ST9 - Too lame to remember because not about revenge
ST10 - A noun a verb, Tom Hardy and REVENGE

(somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but you get the point)

Star Trek V was about a rebel who happened to be Spock's half brother plotting to use the Enterprise to find "god" at the center of the universe. This is what happens when you let Shatner direct and write the story.
 
Movie looks incredibly dull. Star Trek '09 was the poster child for everything wrong with modern blockbusters... doesn't Abrams understand what pacing is? And Lindelof helping with the script; I don't even know if that qualifies as an improvement over just Orci/Kurtzman.
 
Star Trek V was about a rebel who happened to be Spock's half brother plotting to use the Enterprise to find "god" at the center of the universe. This is what happens when you let Shatner direct and write the story.

I still like V. Damn you all!


This is going to do even bigger money than the last film especially with the shit competition it has next summer. Trek fans am cry

You need to look at the summer schedule again.
 
Movie looks incredibly dull. Star Trek '09 was the poster child for everything wrong with modern blockbusters... doesn't Abrams understand what pacing is? And Lindelof helping with the script; I don't even know if that qualifies as an improvement over just Orci/Kurtzman.

What? ST09 has a lot of flaws, but pacing is not one of them.
 
Movie looks incredibly dull. Star Trek '09 was the poster child for everything wrong with modern blockbusters... doesn't Abrams understand what pacing is? And Lindelof helping with the script; I don't even know if that qualifies as an improvement over just Orci/Kurtzman.

Lindelof was a producer on the first one and already heavily involved in the adaption of the script (dont forget that it was filmed during the writers strike). Just listen to the directors commentary and you'll see that the creative team clearly understands how to make a good Star Wars Trek movie.
 
What? ST09 has a lot of flaws, but pacing is not one of them.

Every scene in the movie was just super loud, full of stupid shit happening on screen whenever "nothing" was happening, way too much "action"-y stuff. That's the opposite of traditional pacing problems, but it's still a pacing problem. I know Abrams molded it around the Star Wars films, but he seriously needs to go back and appreciate just how much breathing room there is in the OT. The lulls give the action meaning and builds momentum.

That made it hard to be invested in Star Trek '09, especially as someone who hasn't seen much else Star Trek.
 
It is coming out the same day/weekend as Fast Six and the Hangover Part III I believe? Still a pretty good amount of competition there.

That's pretty dumb with such an awful summer. They have so much space to move it to and it's going to be the same week as the only real comptition outside of Iron Man?
 
That's pretty dumb with such an awful summer. They have so much space to move it to and it's going to be the same week as the only real comptition outside of Iron Man?

It's coming out 2 weeks after Iron Man and 1 week before Fast Six / Hangover. It will be fine, Fast Six targets a different audience and The Hangover Pt. 3 will most likely bomb.
 
Every scene in the movie was just super loud, full of stupid shit happening on screen whenever "nothing" was happening, way too much "action"-y stuff. That's the opposite of traditional pacing problems, but it's still a pacing problem. I know Abrams molded it around the Star Wars films, but he seriously needs to go back and appreciate just how much breathing room there is in the OT. The lulls give the action meaning and builds momentum.

That made it hard to be invested in Star Trek '09, especially as someone who hasn't seen much else Star Trek.

I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about. Can you give an example?
 
I can live with that.

With a title "...Into Darkness", how can anyone be surprised at the tonal shift from the previous movie? They feel that they've earned the viewers trust with the first movie and to conform with the trend of other franchise sequels, this one is the dark, serious movie with all the consequences.

Agreed. This movie will be the dark, middle chapter of the current Star Trek trilogy.
 
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