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[Barack Lesnar]

For the love of God, stop.

Sorry, just speculating. By the way, turns out she actually is a model too which isn't surprising and she's already 15 so if a reboot happens within 6-8 years she would be great for a role and most likely incredibly hot by then, far more than Hathaway or Katie Holmes were in their roles.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Huh. She's pretty awesome.

She's a perfectly serviceable actress and an incredibly intelligent young woman, but she is not what everybody has made her out to be. For one, she is downright AWFUL in Hugo.

IZIT A SAYCRAAAET? I LUV SAYCREEATS!

 

[jett]

How can you go against Cruise? He's tasted the hottest Batwomen.

But not the hottest.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

She's a perfectly serviceable actress and an incredibly intelligent young woman, but she is not what everybody has made her out to be. For one, she is downright AWFUL in Hugo.

IZIT A SAYCRAAAET? I LUV SAYCREEATS!

I've only seen her role as Hit-Girl but she was great in that. She definitely had some nuanced expressions and deliveries that only someone who's actually a talented actress could pull off, and this was just as a kid. She may have been in awful in Hugo but it's not like you lose acting talent so the fact she was great in Kick-Ass means there's a lot upside here. I'd love to see more female actress superstars, we have a paltry amount as is.

I was actually kind of surprised when Hathaway got the nod as Catwoman. I didn't think she was anywhere near that star quality, just some average star actress not a draw at all. That shows you how thin the female roster is.

 

[Jack Scofield]

positives. cat woman looked hot in many scene. she got just the right size of hooters so it looks nice but does not distract from the movie.

This sentence amused me more than it should have.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

She was good in Kick Ass, not GREAT. I feel like the fact that she was able to spout off curse words without sounding awkward has people misconstruing her talent.

Dakota Fanning was a GREAT child actress. Henry Thomas was a GREAT child actor. Haley Joel Osment was a GREAT child actor.

Chloe is a perfectly FINE child actor. She's good, but let's not get carried away here.

 

[jett]

Dakota Fanning is fucking insufferable. I'm really going to have to disagree with you there Sculli.

But yeah Haley Joel Osment was probably the best child actor in decades.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Dakota Fanning is fucking insufferable. I'm really going to have to disagree with you there Sculli.

But yeah Haley Joel Osment was probably the best child actor in decades.

Come now, ma'jett. Dakota Fanning was an unbelievable young actress. Try to think of every other role she had as a kid outside of being a scream machine in War of the Worlds.

Her performance in I Am Sam is incredible. Also in Spielberg's TAKEN miniseries.

 

[Fry]

Yep, Dakota was awesome in WotW. God, I love that movie.

 

[jett]

Come now, ma'jett. Dakota Fanning was an unbelievable young actress. Try to think of every other role she had as a kid outside of being a scream machine in War of the Worlds.

Her performance in I Am Sam is incredible. Also in Spielberg's TAKEN miniseries.

Well, I don't like either I am Sam or Taken. I find nothing special about her.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

Come now, ma'jett. Dakota Fanning was an unbelievable young actress. Try to think of every other role she had as a kid outside of being a scream machine in War of the Worlds.

Her performance in I Am Sam is incredible. Also in Spielberg's TAKEN miniseries.

Dakota was also great in "Push", which was actually a pretty good and underrated film. It's where Chris Evans gets some powers.

 

[Tookay]

Yep, Dakota was awesome in WotW. God, I love that movie.

There's a first time for everything.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Man I can't believe Asa Butterfield is playing Ender Wiggin.

I swear no movie is going to cause more bitching from me than that fucking stain on one of my most beloved stories.

 

[MrPink93485]

Dakota Fanning is fucking insufferable. I'm really going to have to disagree with you there Sculli.

But yeah Haley Joel Osment was probably the best child actor in decades.

Real shame that Haley Joel Osment's career pretty much died after AI (Secondhand Lions)?

For god's sake Nomura, let him do KH3 and give him some work.

 

[.GqueB.]

One of those things isn't common sense if you can't see the ending is supposed to be the start of Robin's journey, not that he goes out the next day as Batman.

Then why send him to the batcave? Should've gave him the map to ninja school.

 

[Ridley327]

Huh. She's pretty awesome.

She was kinda awful in Hugo.

Well, maybe not kinda.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Wow the thread has moved. Also some strange stuff.

 

[jett]

Man I can't believe Asa Butterfield is playing Ender Wiggin.

I swear no movie is going to cause more bitching from me than that fucking stain on one of my most beloved stories.

I should probably read that book before it's ruined for me.

Real shame that Haley Joel Osment's career pretty much died after AI (Secondhand Lions)?

For god's sake Nomura, let him do KH3 and give him some work.

It's really too bad, AI showed him as being flat out one of the best actors of the time. Secondhand Lions wasn't too terrible but his career pretty much ended after that movie.

 

[Tookay]

Then why send him to the batcave? Should've gave him the map to ninja school.

Ninja school don't exist no mo'.

 

[Dead Man]

Do you watch comic book films? Any one of them will have the kinds of "really significant issues" (lol) that people are bringing up in this thread.

Well that makes it okay then, we shouldn't ever expect something to actually be good, just not worse than others, right? Standards, who needs them?

They...don't? Pretty sure you can chalk it up to being a League of Shaodws ran prison. But I've pushed that thought aside at the moment, I'm writing the script on how they constructed the Batcave and all the bat gadgets without the secret of Bruce Wayne getting out to anyone. I am a joyless person and suspension of disbelief is not a thing that exists in my reality, so please forgive me if I don't have time to answer all of your questions post-haste.

Suspension of disbelief is one thing, suspension of all thinking is another.

 

[Blader]

Then why send him to the batcave? Should've gave him the map to ninja school.

Make kid believe he's going to be Batman, send him up a mountain to a pile of rubble.

Bruce Wayne's last troll.

 

[oatmeal]

I can't believe this shit. Screen grabs aren't working right, which has never happened. When I got a grab from that youtube video imgur wont upload it. My computer doesnt want the truth to be known.

edit: Now explain to me why Batman makes a jump from a standstill. There's clearly room for at least two steps forward.

Nothing about the prison makes any sense. Who is running it? Why? Why are there no guards? Who is feeding them? If you're free to escape, that suggests nobody is watching the prison. If nobody is watching, how is it that no one else has found the prison and lowered a rope? At least one of those men has to have a family or friend that would like to see them escape. If men are able to climb easily to the first platform, why don't they then send up supplies and build a platform across the gap? They clearly have metal, rope, theres a tv, clothing all kinds of supplies and yet these dumb fucks haven't figured a way out?

I like how there's a nice big rope just sitting up there.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

I should probably read that book before it's ruined for me.



It's really too bad, AI showed him as being flat out one of the best actors of the time. Secondhand Lions wasn't too terrible but his career pretty much ended after that movie.

I've always thought it was because his face never really matured. It's like he still has his child actor face which makes him look really strange as an adult. I used to use that shopped avatar of him with his face scrunched in but it's actually not that far from reality.

 

[Ridley327]

I should probably read that book before it's ruined for me.



It's really too bad, AI showed him as being flat out one of the best actors of the time. Secondhand Lions wasn't too terrible but his career pretty much ended after that movie.

At least he's still got a steady gig in Kingdom Hearts!

 

[jett]

There should have been no rope at all. People just plummet to their deaths if they miss the jump.

 

[Escape Goat]

Why would the League of Shadows run a prison pit when their shtick was punishing the guilty by death?

I don't know...

 

[crazy monkey]

that hole thing and worse it is in the middle of dessert and next scene dude just walks to the city clean shaved.

 

[Ridley327]

There should have been no rope at all. People just plummet to their deaths if they miss the jump.

But how else would Bruce have found out that the secret to making the jump was to not have a rope tying you down in the first place? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?!

 

[Dead Man]

But how else would Bruce have found out that the secret to making the jump was to not have a rope tying you down in the first place? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?!

From the blind guy who is also a doctor and the guy who is not a doctor but heals him. You know, the well fed guys. In the pit. They would have told him. Right?

 

[jett]

But how else would Bruce have found out that the secret to making the jump was to not have a rope tying you down in the first place? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?!

He's da Batman.

Seriously, he's the goddamn Batman. He has a long ass rope. He couldn't fashion himself a safer way to get out of that shithouse?

Ugh this movie. This movie was everything I thought it would be when I first saw the IMAX preview. Big, dumb and bloated.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

HELL ON EARF

 

[BadAss2961]

Well that makes it okay then, we shouldn't ever expect something to actually be good, just not worse than others, right? Standards, who needs them?

My point was that his "issues" weren't significant, mostly just trivial complaints that are all but impossible for movies based on superheroes to avoid. This genre obviously isn't for you if you share those kinds of gripes.

 

[Blader]

He's da Batman.

Seriously, he's the goddamn Batman. He has a long ass rope. He couldn't fashion himself a safer way to get out of that shithouse?

He should have tied all the inmates shirts together to make a longer rope!

 

[Dead Man]

My point was that his "issues" weren't significant, mostly just trivial complaints that are all but impossible for movies based on superheroes to avoid. This genre obviously isn't for you if you share those kinds of gripes.

No, they are easy issues to avoid for the most part. By thinking about the script and plot before you start shooting. If sci-fi and fantasy movies can avoid them, so can superhero movies. Especially when they remove most of the 'super' from the heroes and want them to be semi realistic.

 

[BadAss2961]

No, they are easy issues to avoid for the most part. By thinking about the script and plot before you start shooting. If sci-fi and fantasy movies can avoid them, so can superhero movies. Especially when they remove most of the 'super' from the heroes and want them to be semi realistic.

Again, they aren't issues. Read his complaints from before. Only a tiny of amount of people who watched this film could've come away thinking about the stuff he did. Maybe if I just said that no one cares, I would've gotten my point across better.

 

[Dead Man]

Again, they aren't issues. Read his complaints from before. Only a tiny of amount of people who watched this film could've come away thinking about the stuff he did. Maybe if I just said that no one cares, I would've gotten my point across better.

So unless you care they are not issues. Cool. Only about half the things he listed bother me but that doesn't mean they are not things that could and should have been addressed.

-The setup at the beginning with the 10 second blood transfusion doesn't make any sense at all. How could that be effective for its intended purpose?
-There is a massive shootout at the stock exchange and a huge police chase and Batman shows up after 8 years and for some stupid reason they have to count all trades from that night unless proven fake because they got his thumbprint? What the fuck? Of all the questionable shit, this is the one I cannot suspend my disbelief far enough to accommodate at all.
-I'm not going to talk about pacing and whatnot because this is a Nolan film and I always hated the pacing in his films. However, I will note that the quality of the writing went WAY DOWN. It was filled to the brim with cheesy quips and stuff. You can expect that from the Joker as a character, but from everyone all the time? The whole tone of the other Dark Knight movies was completely lost.
-"Give Gotham to the people" = Instant unchallenged rule of the people who once terrorized the city? ...because "no cops"? Come on, man. EVERYONE who had courage was either a crook or a cop?
-There was an unfathomable amount of dumb moves made by the cops. We can try to write them off saying it was at least 5 years since there was prevalent organized crime and they got soft, but it doesn't FEEL good to watch a bunch of dumbasses. The visual impact of the river of cops was just mind-breaking stupidity. You can talk about blah blah social commentary blah blah but if your analogies are so heavy handed that they destroy any semblance to possible reality within the movie, you dun fucked up. It's better to just be like other movies and Batman stuff and go "How the fuck did Joker set that up?" and let it be a mystery.
-Batman fights like a street brawler. He just tromps around throwing haymakers instead of flying around the area like a ninja. I know everyone complained about the warehouse scene in the first one but this is NOT the answer. He doesn't seem like Batman at all. I mean MAYBE he did some ninja stuff in the sewers that they didn't show at all, but that's an even shittier way of handling it than how he fought Bane.

The bold are ones that should at least have been though of by the director, writer and producer.

 

[Dice]

I'd double up on that last one, too. It's really consistent in the film with his fighting on the roof alongside Catwoman and the fighting in the streets at the end before he fights Bane. I would expect Batman to demonstrate at LEAST the same range of skills and athleticism as Jason Bourne, but he doesn't even get to that level, just "let me walk up and punch this guy in front of me" like a bar fight. He never even used that brick-breaking kick demonstrated in the batcave. The fight choreographer should have played Arkham City for tips or something.

 

[BadAss2961]

So unless you care they are not issues. Cool. Only about half the things he listed bother me but that doesn't mean they are not things that could and should have been addressed.



The bold are ones that should at least have been though of by the director, writer and producer.

I'd double up on that last one, too. It's really consistent in the film with his fighting on the roof alongside Catwoman and the fighting in the streets at the end before he fights Bane. I would expect Batman to demonstrate at LEAST the same range of skills and athleticism as Jason Bourne, but he doesn't even get to that level, just "let me walk up and punch this guy in front of me" like a bar fight. He never even used that brick-breaking kick demonstrated in the batcave. The fight choreographer should have played Arkham City for tips or something.

Well one thing I do care about is Batman's fighting, which I don't think was a problem here. If you like everything to be completely logical, then you should love to think that maybe all of Bruce's injuries combined with him getting older and barely being able to walk on his own had a little something to do with the way he fought in Rises.

 

[lazybones18]

Hmm.

Nolan women in terms of hotness.

ScarJo

>

Katie

>

Marion

>

Rebecca

>

Anne


>

Sara Stewart


>


Juno


>


Maggie/Carrie

Lacking Hilary Swank

 

[jett]

I'd double up on that last one, too. It's really consistent in the film with his fighting on the roof alongside Catwoman and the fighting in the streets at the end before he fights Bane. I would expect Batman to demonstrate at LEAST the same range of skills and athleticism as Jason Bourne, but he doesn't even get to that level, just "let me walk up and punch this guy in front of me" like a bar fight. He never even used that brick-breaking kick demonstrated in the batcave. The fight choreographer should have played Arkham City for tips or something.

Even though I have a lot of problems with Batman 89, the way he moves in the the Church scene is probably more Batman-like than anything in Nolan's movies. So much hoopla was done about how more mobile the Balesuit was but in practice we never see that.

 

[Fry]

Lacking Hilary Swank

Depending on her hair, she could be on the top spot or the last one. Not kidding.

 

[Tookay]

Again, they aren't issues. Read his complaints from before. Only a tiny of amount of people who watched this film could've come away thinking about the stuff he did. Maybe if I just said that no one cares, I would've gotten my point across better.

...pretty much everyone I've talked to has brought up some variation of these complaints.

This thread's existence is a testament to it as well, since the same comments have been said over and over.

I like this movie, but it got really lazy with its writing.

The bold are ones that should at least have been though of by the director, writer and producer.

Problem is, it's pretty much the same person sharing all three roles. I think Nolan needed somebody holding him back, because being given carte blanche since TDK is seemingly slowly eroding at his filmmaking.

 

[overcast]

This has got to be one of the most polarized movies I've seen in a while. Some people hate this movie so much, but some consider in the best of the trilogy. This thread is kind of not even about Batman anymore.

I think the overall consensus is that this movie is really good right? Right?

 

[T Dollarz]

This has got to be one of the most polarized movies I've seen in a while. Some people hate this movie so much, but some consider in the best of the trilogy. This thread is kind of not even about Batman anymore.

I think the overall consensus is that this movie is really good right? Right?

Actually it's not. Gaf seems pretty divided towards it. I ally myself more with the 'love it' crowd.

 

[overcast]

That's what I meant. Gaf is pretty damn split down the middle.

 

[TheExecutive]

I have tried to watch this movie TWICE this weekend and it sucks so hard I have fallen asleep twice. It's boring. Bane is a driveling, slow, and boring character. Cat woman is a side project and batman is a complete wimp with a Cain. I couldn't be more disappointed.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Even though I have a lot of problems with Batman 89, the way he moves in the the Church scene is probably more Batman-like than anything in Nolan's movies. So much hoopla was done about how more mobile the Balesuit was but in practice we never see that.

Yeah. Begins Batman was the best. DAT NINJA

 

[TheExecutive]

This has got to be one of the most polarized movies I've seen in a while. Some people hate this movie so much, but some consider in the best of the trilogy. This thread is kind of not even about Batman anymore.

I think the overall consensus is that this movie is really good right? Right?

Its not good. At all.

 

[overcast]

Its not good. At all.

You are like the 4th person in THIS thread to come in and say they fell asleep like 5 times while watching it. If people think it's bad say it's bad, but the hyperbole is nauseating.

 

[Discotheque]

Yeah. Begins Batman was the best. DAT NINJA

That was filmed so horribly, inb4 "the scene is kinetic and we're supposed to be in fear of him so i filmed it that way"

Begins is better than The Dark Knight Rises. But the action scenes were filmed much better later on in this series.