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Man of Steel - Official Trailer #2

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genericsuperhero said:
I think starting out with Zod is a nice choice, especially for the context of the film. Zod chooses to use his power one way, Clark another. Clark sees what he can become and chooses the higher road. And then in the sequel, after seeing what this Superman can do with his powers, defeating an alien invasion and beating down Zod, introduce a human adversary - one he can't punch in the face or throw into the sun.

I want the next Lex to be very pro-human, who uses his position to stand on a soapbox and say, what right does this "man", this alien, have to stand for truth and justice? How can we trust him? Then try his hardest to prove he's right. He would be the Snyder-verses version of Nolan's Joker, just constantly trying to wear down and break the hero to prove a point.
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I can be for this if it's done right. A key thing for me though is that I need...NEED Superman to fight something. After Superman Returns, where I had to deal with action sequences that involved Superman picking things up or stopping things from falling, I refuse to accept anything less.
 
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this shot tells me Snyder might have it in him to make a truly special movie.

And at least Welling got the cape right. Why are they so adverse to putting the shield on the back?
 
Dany M said:
Welling couldn't even put on the suit. :(

Fuck, it was a great finale anyways. Last 2-3 seasons were amazing.
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Yeah, the finale was great and worth the 10 year wait, watching Clark embrace his destiny in the end and Jonathan giving him the suit made me all teary.

Although a full shot of him in the suit would been powerful too.

But that's what the movies are for I guess.

And rumors has it he was nervous about wearing the suit, I would be too.
 
LevelNth said:
I get that some people want different things, by why do people want carbon copy remakes of Superman movies we already have?
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Because in a world of hyper-realism, that's what the Superman movies so endearing. The 'comic-book ness" of WHedon's Avengers is what made it so special. I've seen so many years of dark and gritty and dingy, that it's VERY refreshing seeing superman - the donner kind - being so optimistic and do-goody.
 
Eidan said:
I can be for this if it's done right. A key thing for me though is that I need...NEED Superman to fight something. After Superman Returns, where I had to deal with action sequences that involved Superman picking things up or stopping things from falling, I refuse to accept anything less.
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I think a good way to offset the lack of action Luthor brings is to introduce smaller villains enlisted by Luthor to stop him. Metallo would be a good choice here.
 
Fix The Scientist said:
Why do people act like this movie has so much to live up to? The old movies aren't that good, i would go as far as to say there is yet to be a great superman film.
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Snyder/Goyer/Nolan brings expectations. I'd say that it has the Dark Knight trilogy to live up, as well as the pressure of getting people hyped for a potential Justice League.
 
Angry Fork said:
I'm saying it isn't moral to prefer the deaths of 20+ children to your own. It's somewhat conflicting if you're the parent of that child but it isn't something that should be lauded just because it means he cares deeply about Clark. Clark doesn't mean more than any of the other child just because Pa says so.
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I'm saying he's questioning Clark's place in even defying the natural order. That's heady stuff, but not at all immoral.

I'm starting to think the three time I've posted this, GAFG has glitched as it's seemingly been ignored.
 
Eidan said:
I can be for this if it's done right. A key thing for me though is that I need...NEED Superman to fight something. After Superman Returns, where I had to deal with action sequences that involved Superman picking things up or stopping things from falling, I refuse to accept anything less.
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Superman vs an army of Lex-bots/mercs in exosuits?
 
MisterHero said:
Lois and Clark was an incredibly popular show. The show got to a point where Clark and Lois were engaged, so DC killed him until they could line up the marraige in both mediums.

Death of Superman, L&C, and Superman TAS were all great projects in the 90s. Of course, DC had to nerf him in DCAU because other characters needed to be highlighted.

Superman had a ton of bad writing over the years, but those weren't it. How can one even begin to blame the 90s when we just sat through 10 years of Smallville mediocrity? The lead actor didn't even want to wear the costume when he was supposed to!
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Please.

I didn't even bother with Smallville because of those 90s projects. Hence the point. Sure Supes retains popularity in that way that Twilight retains the imagination of school girls among that demographic...but it's been damn near a generation since Superman has captured the imagination of grown ass men. It's been a long time since we'd put "Superman" and "badass" or "tough" in the same sentence if you're not reading comic books or something. Hell, what was the last Superman movie you had a reason to be excited about?

That's the real point. They didn't kill the Superman franchise over the last 20 years, but they for damn sure pussified it and him to appeal to young women. So again I say, here's hoping he is restored to the pedestal of power, authority and subsequent respect he deserves to be on as a character. He is one of the elites among all superheros if not THE elite (depending on which version of Superman you look at), but has appeared as much less than that for far too long.
 
Flash said:
I think a good way to offset the lack of action Luthor brings is to introduce smaller villains enlisted by Luthor to stop him. Metallo would be a good choice here.
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And in the process, sacrifices his humanity while Superman proves his.

And I had the same issue with Returns - I just wanted him to punch something. All he did was lift things for two hours.
 
Flash said:
I think a good way to offset the lack of action Luthor brings is to introduce smaller villains enlisted by Luthor to stop him. Metallo would be a good choice here.
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Read my mind. I wouldn't want Metallo to detract attention from Luthor though. I'd be fine if Metallo was reduced completely to brainless muscle.

EDIT: Hell, you could possibly make Metallo a representation of a world that doesn't need a Superman. A world where man's safety is in MAN'S hands.
 
I...liked this trailer. This could be really good. I won't lie, after the shitty Sucker Punch and Snyder being announced the director, I lost all hope for this movie. But this trailer's tone was quite good, and I'm curious to see the internal conflict Superman will have. Execution is everything after all. I've never read the comics, and have only seen him in the cartoons or the original Superman movies, so my image of him has always been of the boy scout pussy. So, it's nice to see that this movie will potentially give him some redeeming aspects in my eye as a character.
 
Angry Fork said:
If you've read the full script can you say (in spoiler) if they show Clark growing up and when certain abilities start 'sprouting'? Or is it something he's always had since a baby?
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Well the trailer has him around school age freaking out whenever he starts hearing everyone. That's why Martha is saying that he needs to focus on her voice and he is trying to cover his ears. So yeah...
 
Having Lex create an army to take down Superman in the sequel would be perfect. Force Supes into conflicts that force his powers on humanity. That's Lex at his best.

Lex can be a great character if written correctly.
 
krypt0nian said:
I'm saying he's questioning Clark's place in even defying the natural order. That's heady stuff, but not at all immoral.

I'm starting to think the three time I've posted this, GAFG has glitched as it's seemingly been ignored.
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There is no natural order as long as humans exist/progress, Clark isn't god he's an alien. If he cares about other people he has an obligation to help them it isn't a choice, I guess that's why I found Johnathon's 'maybe' to be wut-worthy. You might as well say fire fighters shouldn't save people because fires are the natural order of things.


CaptYamato said:
Well the trailer has him around school age freaking out whenever he starts hearing everyone. That's why Martha is saying that he needs to focus on her voice and he is trying to cover his ears. So yeah...
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...I completely missed this, not sure how, gonna rewatch now. I liked when Smallville introduced abilities bit by bit hopefully it's the same in this.
 
LeBrick James said:
Snyder/Goyer/Nolan brings expectations. I'd say that it has the Dark Knight trilogy to live up, as well as the pressure of getting people hyped for a potential Justice League.
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Also, I don't think its expectations that it has to live up to but instead the idea that Superman doesn't translate well onto the big screen.

Should it be a more realistic take? Or should be vibrant and colourful like in the comics? But then is Superman suppose to be this brooding guy who's having trouble with his destiny or should he be some perfect boy scout? There is a big division as to what people want and one crowd will hate on one and the other crowd will hate on the other.

But let's see how this turns out, its a new take on him in the big screen and hopefully it's a success. I'm glad they dropped the Williams theme because now the franchise can start their story without any of the nostalgia and Donner expectations.
 
Having Lex in the sequel will be a masterstroke. Superman will have his wits tested in this one by someone akin to him, a GOD (maybe 3) to have his ultimate undoing in the sequel by a mortal man proves Lex's ingenuity and hatred for Superman. Having Lex first just makes Superman seem incapable of anything.
 
Angry Fork said:
There is no natural order as long as humans exist/progress, Clark isn't god he's an alien. If he cares about other people he has an obligation to help them it isn't a choice, I guess that's why I found Johnathon's 'maybe' to be wut-worthy. You might as well say fire fighters shouldn't save people because fires are the natural order of things.
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So how is Clark supposed to respond if a bunch of kids at school call him a god? Would the government be accepting to a kid with godlike powers?
 
Flash said:
Also, I don't think its expectations that it has to live up to but instead the idea that Superman doesn't translate well onto the big screen.

Should it be a more realistic take? Or should be vibrant and colourful like in the comics? But then is Superman suppose to be this brooding guy who's having trouble with his destiny or should he be some perfect boy scout? There is a big division as to what people want and one crowd will hate on one and the other crowd will hate on the other.

But let's see how this turns out, its a new take on him in the big screen and hopefully it's a success. I'm glad they dropped the Williams theme because now the franchise can start their story without any of the nostalgia and Donner expectations.
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That's true. I think what they're doing can work, but if it doesn't... Even after all the past mistakes and knowledge we have now, I don't see it happening for Superman for a very long time.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
Please.

I didn't even bother with Smallville because of those 90s projects. Hence the point. Sure Supes retains popularity in that way that Twilight retains the imagination of school girls...but it's been damn near a generation since Superman has captured the imagination of grown ass men. It's been a long time since we'd put "Superman" and "badass" or "tough" in the same sentence if you're not reading comic books or something. Hell, what was the last Superman movie you had a reason to be excited about?

That's the real point. They didn't kill the Superman franchise over the last 20 years, but they for damn sure pussified it and him to appeal to young women. So again I say, here's hoping he is restored to the pedestal of power, authority and subsequent respect he deserves to be on as a character. He is one of the elites among all superheros if not THE elite (depending on which version of Superman you look at), but has appeared as much less than that for far too long.
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Smallville isn't anything like the 90s. Smallville doesn't build into anything at all.

They nerfed him decade+ because they want Batman on an equal pedestal. Superman's just trying to do the right thing against supernatural odds. More importantly, the late-80s/90s allowed Superman's character to develop, try different careers and further his relationship with Lois.

The last time he appeared tough was when he killed Doomsday. He was also pretty substantial in Kingdom Come. There's more stories to him than being badass.

He appears weaker because WB doesn't seem to care about adapting his best stories. TDK/TDKR was all the Frank Miller stories and The Long Halloween bundled together. When will Superman lead the Legion of Superheroes? Will we have a live-action Darkseid that isn't a ball of gas? Will Darkseid job to Batman? Maybe!
 
Even though I'm not really for a grim-and-gritty Superman (that's not what he's about), I'd love to get a throwaway scene/shot of Clark with the heat vision glow on his eyes. I always squeal like a geek whenever it shows up in the comics. It just shows you that, even though Supes is usually even-tempered, he could still crush you with a thought.

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MisterHero said:
Smallville isn't anything like the 90s. Smallville doesn't build into anything at all.

They nerfed him because they want Batman on an equal pedestal. Superman isn't supposed to be badass, he's just trying to do the right thing. More importantly, the late-80s/90s allowed Superman's character to develop, try different careers and further his relationship with Lois.

The last time he appeared tough was when he killed Doomsday. He was also pretty substantial in Kingdom Come.

He appears weaker because WB doesn't seem to care about adapting his best stories. TDK/TDKR was all the Frank Miller stories and The Long Halloween bundled together. When will Superman lead the Legion of Superheroes? Will we have a live-action Darkseid that isn't a ball of gas? Will Darkseid job to Batman? Maybe!
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Word.

And yea, to know he was last badass was back when I was reading comics (Death of Superman) is a sad thought. Far too long for Superman to have been on the sidelines, largely irrelevant. Hurts to even think about.

Here's to much ass being kicked and a reminder of why he has SUPER in his fucking name.
 
Angry Fork said:
There is no natural order as long as humans exist/progress, Clark isn't god he's an alien. If he cares about other people he has an obligation to help them it isn't a choice, I guess that's why I found Johnathon's 'maybe' to be wut-worthy. You might as well say fire fighters shouldn't save people because fires are the natural order of things.
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From a Kansas god fearing farmer's point of view you could not be more wrong.

Equating Superman to firefighters is missing the point. Nevermind.
 
MisterHero said:
Smallville isn't anything like the 90s. Smallville doesn't build into anything at all.

They nerfed him because they want Batman on an equal pedestal. Superman isn't supposed to be badass, he's just trying to do the right thing. More importantly, the late-80s/90s allowed Superman's character to develop, try different careers and further his relationship with Lois.

The last time he appeared tough was when he killed Doomsday. He was also pretty substantial in Kingdom Come. There's more stories to him than being badass.

He appears weaker because WB doesn't seem to care about adapting his best stories. TDK/TDKR was all the Frank Miller stories and The Long Halloween bundled together. When will Superman lead the Legion of Superheroes? Will we have a live-action Darkseid that isn't a ball of gas? Will Darkseid job to Batman? Maybe!
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Everyone must job to Batman.
 
Viewt said:
Even though I'm not really for a grim-and-gritty Superman (that's not what he's about), I'd love to get a throwaway scene/shot of Clark with the heat vision glow on his eyes. I always squeal like a geek whenever it shows up in the comics. It just shows you that, even though Supes is usually even-tempered, he could still crush you with a thought.
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It shows him as the alien monster that he really is.
 
You know, I'd love to see a Superman movie where kryptonite is never used. If the villain can take a hit and dish them out, it shouldn't be necessary, and will likely only cheapen the ending with a crappy deus ex machina plot device.
 
Cronox said:
You know, I'd love to see a Superman movie where kryptonite is never used. If the villain can take a hit and dish them out, it shouldn't be necessary, and will likely only cheapen the ending with a crappy deus ex machina plot device.
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There's nothing more boring than seeing a villain pick up kryptonite, with thoughts of using it against our near and dear hero.
 
I expect to leave the theater thinking, "yea you know that alien army The Avengers struggled with at the end of that movie? Superman would have ended that shit in seconds."

That's what I need. Flashes of abilities and strength that leaves one able to sense overwhelming potential. A tip of the bigass iceberg worthy of the most overpowered hero ever created.

Show me God-tier, but only a little bit. :D
 
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