December Comic |OT| Apocalypse NOW - Time Enough At Last.

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OK so help out a guy here, the last time I read Spider-Man he got a job at a science facility thingy (this skipping everything between there and Brand New Day) and now I hear something major happened so I want to get back. What issue should I hop back into?

You might want to wait on that for oh...an issue or two.
 
The philosophical problem I have with Avengers Academy is that a book in which teens murder one another is bleak as fuck, when the last fucking thing we need in mainstream teenage super-hero comics is more bleak as fuck teenage death and despair. It doesn't really matter how well it's done, the problem is that it only exists to stroke an editor's murder-boner.

i dunno uncanny xmen was a teen book and it was bleak as shit..fall of mutants, and such sometimes you gotta temper your heroes with pain and ...death panels.
 
I'm glad I live in a world where teens murdering teens isn't too bleak/dark/graphic for mainstream comics. Bring on the murder/death/kill.
 
murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill murder death kill

bring it onnnnn
 
I still have money on all the deaths being retconned in the last issue of the series.

Are any of those characters even worth retconning back to life though? I'm asking honestly, I don't know.
 
Are any of those characters even worth retconning back to life though? I'm asking honestly, I don't know.

It would make for an interesting comic. Put them all on a team after they spent god knows how long hunting and killing each other. They'll all have PTSD at this point too. Put the right writer on it and it could be very cool.
 
I don't want interesting comics, I want MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmURRRRRRDERRRRRR
 
I don't want interesting comics, I want MMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmURRRRRRDERRRRRR

To get to my idea you have to get a murder comic first. Everyone has to die, there has to be a lot of betrayal and it all has to be filled with the worst kinds of MUUUUUUURRRRRRDDDERRRRRR in order to work.
 
i dunno uncanny xmen was a teen book and it was bleak as shit..fall of mutants, and such sometimes you gotta temper your heroes with pain and ...death panels.

Yeah, but death and despair wasn't the central conceit of Uncanny X-Men, whereas the entire point of Avengers Arena is that teens are murdering other teens. Plus it was a different era, so it wasn't like every other comic tried to be The Most Serious Important Thing Ever, Look We Have Sadness And Murder On Every Single Goddamn Page.

Again, I have not read the book at all, but it feels like it's taking a feel-good fun coming of age adventure like Avengers Academy was and turning it into another comic where bad things happen all the time.
 
Huh. On that note, I tried it, and can manage it. Well, save for the whole knee cross thing. That part's strange and hurts.

Yep.

Close enough for government work, which is doubly fine for comics.

I used to think the crazy organ swelling and deformities of Fist of the North Star were so much fictional bullshit, but then I landed a job in a medical school. What is seen cannot be unseen. D:

Man. . .

I can't believe Seely and Gaston are off this book in favor of this:

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I'm assuming these characters aren't actually standing together here, but it's Liefield. :|

Hopefully this loon doesn't fuck up his Extreme re-launch by assuming control of more titles. Issue #33 of Bloodstrike (I realize how stupid it looks as I type it) dropped a "Prophet returns to Earth" line which could be bad news for Hipsters in Spaaaace!

More important - don't fuck with Glory Robby. >:|
 
Man I'd love for Skottie Young to be off these Oz books. Brah would kill it on a Tiny X Men, a Disney or Muppets property, or Iron Man.


And Kirkman is going off the deep end in the latest Invinicble issue.
 
i dunno uncanny xmen was a teen book and it was bleak as shit..fall of mutants, and such sometimes you gotta temper your heroes with pain and ...death panels.

I don't have a problem, at least not on a conceptual level, with a story where a teen character dies. I do, however, have a problem with an entire series premised on killing off teen characters on a semi-regular basis.

Much of the Kyle/Yost run on New X-Men read like this, IIRC, and by the time it ended, it had gone from shocking to distasteful to merely tiresome.
 
Anyone have read the new Shadowman comic?

I only knew the character from the ancient (and kickass) N64 game, I've never read any of the old run, but the new one is fun!

In the old series he was white? I always thought he was black...I mean, he was black in the game.

Why would they change it?

I'm liking this Valiant revival...X-O Manowar, Bloodshot and Harbinger were all fun comics!
 
Anyone have read the new Shadowman comic?

I only knew the character from the ancient (and kickass) N64 game, I've never read any of the old run, but the new one is fun!

In the old series he was white? I always thought he was black...I mean, he was black in the game.

Why would they change it?

I'm liking this Valiant revival...X-O Manowar, Bloodshot and Harbinger were all fun comics!

IIRC the original Shadowman was a mixed race Creole. The new Shadowman is very similar to the original.

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there was also a slave era Shadowman in the original series when they'd have flashback stories.

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I skipped the bald gangsta wank Acclaim comics reboot since I was such a fan of the original character.

so far the new series hasn't let me down.
 
Glad to know you're enjoying it too TTOB! What are your thoughts on the others new Valiant comics?

Comixology is really a blessing and a curse to me. On one hand I have access to a lot of stuff I would never be able to buy, and even better on day 1. On the other side I have never ever spent so much money on comics like I'm spending now...

I really should stop impulse buying stuff, but so far I think I enjoyed most of the books I impulse bought so it's hard to resist.
 
I'm enjoying Bloodshot and Shadowman.

Archer & Armstrong is a little too different from the original, it's interesting; but I'm not looking for a socio-political theme comic so I didn't bother picking up the next issue.

Taking a pass on Harbinger and X-O.

So I'm pretty much reading the same Valiant books I read back in the 90's. :P

I might be down for another Doctor Mirage.

Wait the new Valiant comics are good?

Incredibly well done thus far.
 
Man I'd love for Skottie Young to be off these Oz books. Brah would kill it on a Tiny X Men, a Disney or Muppets property, or Iron Man.


And Kirkman is going off the deep end in the latest Invinicble issue.

Love how you just casually threw Iron Man in there at the end. Well played.
 
Comixology is really a blessing and a curse to me. On one hand I have access to a lot of stuff I would never be able to buy, and even better on day 1. On the other side I have never ever spent so much money on comics like I'm spending now...

I really should stop impulse buying stuff, but so far I think I enjoyed most of the books I impulse bought so it's hard to resist.

I still can't reconcile paying so much for digital content. When I can buy a 2.99 book from my LCS for 2.25 (25% discount). Even 0.99 sales feels too much. 0.99 should be normal price and then 0.50 for sales or something.
 
All you really need to know about Batman And Robin #15 is that it's a whole bunch of call-backs to pretty much everything you'd think a Batman comic starring a returning Joker would call back to, with a pretty goddamn amazing pay-off. Great fucking stuff.

Also, it has this.

(actually, Patrick Gleason does much, much worse things in the issue, but this is the big money shot)
 
All you really need to know about Batman And Robin #15 is that it's a whole bunch of call-backs to pretty much everything you'd think a Batman comic starring a returning Joker would call back to, with a pretty goddamn amazing pay-off. Great fucking stuff.

Also, it has this.

(actually, Patrick Gleason does much, much worse things in the issue, but this is the big money shot)

Any reference to Damian's interactions with the Joker in Morrison's run on the title pre New 52?
 
I just read Action #14. First time I've been really disappointed with Grant Morrison and this run.

First of all, the idea that Superman can hear a cry for help from that far away is ridiculous. Not to mention that sound wouldn't travel through space. So stupid.

But then he flies to Mars? I thought the Superman 5 years ago in Action Comics couldn't fly yet. Did I miss something?

It was also a really odd choice to have a cliffhanger at the end ... then go directly into the backup story which takes place two weeks later and everything is fine.

Anyway, when did he learn to fly?
 
I just read Action #14. First time I've been really disappointed with Grant Morrison and this run.

First of all, the idea that Superman can hear a cry for help from that far away is ridiculous. Not to mention that sound wouldn't travel through space. So stupid.

But then he flies to Mars? I thought the Superman 5 years ago in Action Comics couldn't fly yet. Did I miss something?

It was also a really odd choice to have a cliffhanger at the end ... then go directly into the backup story which takes place two weeks later and everything is fine.

Anyway, when did he learn to fly?

I think it was in this issue of Action Comics, #6, titled "When Superman Learned to Fly"

http://www.comicvine.com/action-comics-when-superman-learned-to-fly-last-day/37-313619/
 
I just read Action #14. First time I've been really disappointed with Grant Morrison and this run.

First of all, the idea that Superman can hear a cry for help from that far away is ridiculous. Not to mention that sound wouldn't travel through space. So stupid.

But then he flies to Mars? I thought the Superman 5 years ago in Action Comics couldn't fly yet. Did I miss something?

It was also a really odd choice to have a cliffhanger at the end ... then go directly into the backup story which takes place two weeks later and everything is fine.

Anyway, when did he learn to fly?

This run has been set in lots of different times, and the Mars stuff was set in 'the future'. It's mostly explained in AC #15
 
Yep, AC 15 made the entire run right as rain. Action is one of the few New 52 books I've liked every issue of since launch. Sad Grant's bailing out.
 
This week has been my smallest in weeks. I'm just picking up Batman today.

Don't know about anyone else's NEXT week but somehow it's like four times as big

This Week:
Amazing Spider-Man #699.1
Avengers Arena #1
Avengers Assemble #10
Cable and X-Force #1
Conan the Barbarian #11
Dark Avengers #184
Fantastic Four #2
Massive #7

Next Week:
A + X #3
All New X-Men #4
America's Got Powers #4
Avengers #2
Avengers Arena #2
B.P.R.D. 1948 #3
B.P.R.D. Hell On Earth: Return of the Master #5
Bravest Warriors #3
Cable and X-Force #2
Captain America #2
Daredevil Vol. 3 #21
Fatale #11
Ff #2
Happy #3
Haunt #28
Hawkeye #6
Indestructible Hulk #2
Journey Into Mystery #647
Multiple Warheads Alphabet To Infinity #3
Nowhere Men #2
Prophet #32
Saga #8
Secret Avengers #35
The Sixth Gun #27
Thor God of Thunder #3
Thunderbolts #2
Uncanny X-Force #35
Wolverine and the X-Men #22

WTHHHH SPREAD THAT SHIT OUT RIGHT, COMICS.
 
Marvel ship schedule getting more and more retarded. Someone needs to have a serious fucking heart to heart with someone over there.
 
Of the comics I'm getting this week, NONE of them are Marvel. Some Image, some Dark Horse, that's it.

Next week, I think I have like...EIGHT on my pull list >_>. Not to mention new BPRD/Multiple Warheads/Fatale...

I think the problem is that the only book they're putting on the last week is ASM 700 and AVSM 15.1 or whatever, so....everything comes out that one week
 
Ok, I know Cable has been out of it for a while but who the shit thought Cable fans were so hard up that they needed a fix two weeks in a row? Doesn't make any damn sense. They trying to meet some YTD sales quota or something?
 
Ok, I know Cable has been out of it for a while but who the shit thought Cable fans were so hard up that they needed a fix two weeks in a row? Doesn't make any damn sense. They trying to meet some YTD sales quota or something?

Like Avengers Arena has a bigger fanbase? Same deal, same dumb.
 
Like Avengers Arena has a bigger fanbase? Same deal, same dumb.

Don't underestimate #teamarcade. They should probably kill the entire cast of AA off in the first arc and just make that an Arcade book. Roll the influential point of reference from Hunger Games back a few years and make it superhero Saw.
 
Mega Man #20
Dan The Unharmable #8
Orchid #11
Saucer Country #10
Borderlands Origins #2
Crow Skinning The Wolves #1 (James O'Barr returns to beat resurrected vengeance horses)
Body Bags Volume 2
Bloodshot #6
 
Don't underestimate #teamarcade. They should probably kill the entire cast of AA off in the first arc and just make that an Arcade book. Roll the influential point of reference from Hunger Games back a few years and make it superhero Saw.

Keep Dave Johnson on covers and Kev on interiors and it would be my book of the year.
 
Not a lot for me this week:

Saucer Country
Green Lantern Corps

I noticed a bunch of Image #1's were free on comixology, so I'll probably grab a bunch of those as well.
 
Seems like a good place to post this.

Any reason why Gotham Central collected editions are listed as hardcover when they're paperback? I just got book 1 in the line of duty and it's a paperback. Are there hardcovers i don't know about?
 
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