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School Shooting at Elementary School in Connecticut [27+ dead including 20+ children]

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How is it possible that someone could do something like this? Killing an adult is awful enough but little children? What a disaster. Thoughts are with their families and loved ones.
 
ConradCervantes said:
I don't care. I hate when people take horrific tragedies and turn them into an attack on the country. Maybe gun policy had something to do with it, maybe not. Today who gives a shit. People are dead, and if you can't grasp the importance of that, then what good are you.
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Right. There's a time and place for this. Today is not that time.
 
VALIS said:
Yes, seriously. Wanting to always detach the gun ownership debate from the impact of what the proliferation of it has caused is sniveling cowardice.

You want to have the opinion that gun rights should not be intruded on, feel free to own in a thread about dead children.
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You act as if law makes it so people can't own illegal things. I guess the drug war is "working" according to this myth.

Just like people saying "lock them up in prison" or "string them up" ... you're not focusing on the problem. It's the person. The person that did this, what caused this person to take these actions? Somebody who does something like this can and will do it in another way if there wasn't a gun in his hand. It could have been a bomb, it could have been a person taking the school bus the kids our on.

I'm not for or against anything because this is seriously fucked up and I can't think straight. I have a 7 year old and my hands are shaking. But I know better then to blame the weapon used.
 
ConradCervantes said:
I don't care. I hate when people take horrific tragedies and turn them into an attack on the country. Maybe gun policy had something to do with it, maybe not. Today who gives a shit. People are dead, and if you can't grasp the importance of that, then what good are you.
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Yeah, reading fb, Twitter, and some of this thread, people already trying to politisize this are disgusting. Hell, even Washington isn't that scummy based on the statements being released.
 
Jackpot said:
I think we should reign back from hysterics ("I'm throwing up", "the whole human race is sick") and get some perspective. It is one country's domestic incident. Do you get this choked up when children die in NATO airstrikes? The motives are less reprehensible but are their lives any less valuable?
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I'm sure everyone will give you their handwritten apologies for reacting to a horrific incident when they've calmed down.
 
Jackpot said:
I think we should reign back from hysterics ("I'm throwing up", "the whole human race is sick") and get some perspective. It is one country's domestic incident. Do you get this choked up when children die in NATO airstrikes? The motives are less reprehensible but are their lives any less valuable?
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This hits closer to home for many people. And a Nato bombing is war, we know people die. You don't expect people to die in a primary school in Connecticut.
 
I know there's no point in trying to make sense of these kind of events, but I just can't understand why someone would attack children.
 
Jackpot said:
I think we should reign back from hysterics ("I'm throwing up", "the whole human race is sick") and get some perspective. It is one country's domestic incident. Do you get this choked up when children die in NATO airstrikes? The motives are less reprehensible but are their lives any less valuable?
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Tragedy multiplied by coverage... So much good and evil in the world its hard for many people to know how to respond consistently.
 
This is so fucking fucked up.

I can't even imagine killing someone in self-defense, let alone taking aim at a child and pulling a trigger.

Absolutely unfathomable. Jesus Christ
 
7Th said:
If you are prone to drive and drink you shouldn't be driving in the first place. One life is ruined, but a lot more can be saved.
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Strictly speaking, it's simply an unrealistic solution. The unintended consequences to such an irrational set of solutions would be unfathomable.

7Th said:
All the weapons owned by the Colorado shooter were legally acquired.
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As were the guns of the VaTech shooter, though his mental illness should have prevented it. But that doesn't address the question. If he couldn't have got the guns from the gun store, do we believe neither of these perpetrators would have bought acquired them through other means? I'm just not prepared to believe that men who have it in them to kill dozens of people would have simply thrown up their hands given up on their plan if their gun application is denied at the local gun shop. idk, though.
 
ahoyhoy said:
It'll certainly matter for the discussions that will follow this event, as an outside agitator would change the narrative.

Seeing as it's domestic, likely the debate will be primarily regarding gun control, once again.
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No it won't. Anyone who tries to bring up gun control will be annihilated by this retarded fucking system of ours.


FIRE BOB COSTA!!!1


Fuck this.
 
BankaiZaraki said:
If I were one of the parents, how on Earth do you console your child who witnessed this today? I would just hug my child and cry...
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Hold them, be there for them and talk to them honestly about what happened. But most of all, I'd go back to a normal routine as quickly as possible. I don't mean avoiding the subject, but bringing things back to regular is the best thing you can do for a child in any extraordinairy event in their lives. I would imagine this would be no different in that respect.
 
DrPirate said:
This is so fucking fucked up.

I can't even imagine killing someone in self-defense, let alone taking aim at a child and pulling a trigger.

Absolutely unfathomable. Jesus Christ.

Declare a America a fucking police state. Martial law. You people have no self control.
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Shut the fuck up.
 
This really makes me mad. Little kids and probably a mostly female staff have no fucking chance to defend themselves against a coward like this...
 
fucked up and disgusting

feel for everyone in that school and their families. this must feel like the end of the world for them.

can't even begin to imagine what they're going through right now.
 
Absolutely horrible, my heart goes out to the families. 11 days before Christmas, at an elementary school... not that it's okay at any time, of course.

It's hard to process
 
Does Obama really have enough power to tackle the NRA over this and get some gun reform in place or is it too big of a hurdle?
 
ConradCervantes said:
I don't care. I hate when people take horrific tragedies and turn them into an attack on the country. Maybe gun policy had something to do with it, maybe not. Today who gives a shit. People are dead, and if you can't grasp the importance of that, then what good are you.
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In my 9 years here, your comment is probably one of the five most tasteless I've read. You're in no position to lecture anyone.
 
Absolutely mortifying. The photos of the kids walking out, hands on shoulders crying, made my stomach turn.

Where is the media right now in terms of detaching any sort of meaningful gun control debate from this horrific tragedy. Are they at the ,"knifes kill people too" or "if all the children were armed this wouldn't have happened" checkpoint yet?
 
please don't be black or arab...

I think there's nothing that can be done about gun culture in the US. The cat is out of the bag and human beings are just not rational, especially in this country.
 
I just want to say that there's very little chance of killing 26 people in such a short span of time with a knife.
 
CheesecakeRecipe said:
There are certainly more tactful ways to respond than that, it's hardly appropriate to address it as such especially while the situation is still fresh.
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Oh, I definitely agree. I just hope nobody thought he was actually advocating for justifying today's incident in favour of patriotism.
Jackpot said:
I think we should reign back from hysterics ("I'm throwing up", "the whole human race is sick") and get some perspective. It is one country's domestic incident. Do you get this choked up when children die in NATO airstrikes? The motives are less reprehensible but are their lives any less valuable?
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It hits people harder because this type of killing sprees occur in environments that are supposed to be closely-monitored and relatively safe. It's a lot more difficult to feel attached to someone's killing on the other side of the world because people acknowledge that wanton killing happens all the time. You become desensitised to such news.

I agree with your sentiment, but that doesn't make this incident any less sadder.
 
DrPirate said:
This is so fucking fucked up.

I can't even imagine killing someone in self-defense, let alone taking aim at a child and pulling a trigger.

Absolutely unfathomable. Jesus Christ
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Oh please. Some of the posts in here are dumb. Much worse things have happened in the course of human history. Much worse.
 
The thing that really makes me want to cry is that my son is 3 and just had his Christmas recital at his pre school yesterday. I took a vacation day yesterday to film all the classes for the school. Last night I was spending time editing footage of children from all classes, ages 2-5 and reading this at 10:00am today is waaaaay too close to home.

Children are my absolute weak spot, any harm to hem crushes me to the fullest. I can't even focus at work now... FUCK.
 
As a future teacher here in Connecticut, and I have a step-niece and cousin that are in elementary school (we don't live in Newtown), this news is absolutely terrifying. I've been watching the news since I heard about it, and I'm devastated. I just want to see them and give them a hug.
 
Mr.Awesome said:
Shut the fuck up.
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Oh go fuck yourself.

I'm spending a month in south Florida and you people are fucked up. It's goddam dodge city here, everyone has a weapon.

It's completely out of control.

I'm watching it on the news right now, I'm allowed to get pissed and lose my cool. Hence the edit.
 
I wish we had the right science to resurrect the shooter so each victim's parents can take their turn inflicting pain on this sick son of a bitch.
 
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