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The Dark Knight Rises |OT2| The Legend... Continues

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Scullibundo said:
Every single flashback in the movie was unnecessary. It showed absolutely no faith in the audience and felt shoehorned in to lazily give context to what was happening. Make no mistake, I'm not saying I have a problem with callbacks to Begins. I'm saying I have a problem with how sloppily Nolan handled those callbacks to the point of them feeling unnatural and breaking my engagement with what was going on in the film.
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There was about 10 seconds worth of flashbacks in the whole movie, if that much. lol

None of them seemed out of place either.
 
10 really annoying seconds. They may have been used accordingly, but the scenes would have had the same effect if the flashbacks hadn't been there. In fact, they would have been better off without them. I didn't need to see two face to remember what happened.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
10 really annoying seconds. They may have been used accordingly, but the scenes would have had the same effect if they hadn't been there. In favt, they would have been better off without them. I didn't need to see two face to remember what happened.
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Eh... If it bothered you, that's fine. But it's a pretty dumb thing to make a big deal about.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
It didn't bother me that much, but I did find it kind of annoying. It felt like Nolan thought his audience wasn't smart enough to remember details.
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I could see that.

One flashback no one should complain about is Thomas Wayne's "why do we fall?" after one of Bruce's failed attempts at climbing out of the pit.
 
LeBrick James said:
I could see that.

One flashback no one should complain about is Thomas Wayne's "why do we fall?" after one of Bruce's failed attempts at climbing out of the pit.
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Again, I just have a problem with how clumsily it was handled.

Bruce falling down, cut to black.

We HEAR 'Why do we fall? as he WAKES UP again.

More economical, powerful and doesn't hold the audience's hand as much. Little things like that would make a world of difference.
 
The flash backs i could take or leave. They weren't handled perfectly but i didn't mind them really, not enough to lessen my enjoyment of the film.

I still don't see how the blake bats thing was unnecessary at all. I loved that moment and frankly would have enjoyed the movie a lot less without it.
 
I hated the Gordon one. All they had to do was make it so Batman's line wasn't so poorly written and most audiences wouldn't have needed it to know what the fuck he was yammering on about.
 
I just watched this movie again. It's still a fantastic film, sure it has flaws and some really hammy acting but I'm not sure how it could have been done better as just one film. They really crammed a lot of content from multiple comics into the movie and it only really feels overstuffed when they rushed the ending. I wouldn't have minded two films myself but oh well.
 
Scullibundo said:
I hated the Gordon one. All they had to do was make it so Batman's line wasn't so poorly written and most audiences wouldn't have needed it to know what the fuck he was yammering on about.
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This is the one that probably bothered me the most and took away from the moment just a little bit. It should have been handled with more subtlety and it would have felt more like the moment when he revealed himself to Rachel in BB (which is one of my favorite moments in the trilogy).

I didn't mind the why do we fall one and i actually kind of liked them showing it. The Gordon one shouldn't have been there as it was meant to serve a different purpose.
 
Scullibundo said:
It undermined what that scene meant to Bruce as a character. Bruce was finally confronting and embracing his fear, becoming it.

What the fuck do bats have to do with JGL? It's a cheap bit of nostalgic repetition that let's audiences know that JGL is going to be the next Batman, but doesn't make a lick of goddamn sense for that character outside of that. My point is that these nostalgic callbacks to Begins are lazy and cheap and thus feel forced, not that they don't make sense.
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He's...in a cave of bats? Shit happens to Alfred all the time but they don't sho it because then people might start thinking he's Batman too.
 
Strafer said:
MTV is finally doing something right...

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1698923/best-movies-2012.jhtml
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I liked TDKR more before I rewatched it. I thought it was pretty decent with a handful of flaws before.

Now I just see it as a huge fuckup by Nolan who was phoning it in.
 
Is there any way to make the Ultraviolet digital code still work? I got the Blu Ray when it came out but just noticed that the code expired on Dec 4th (which I think was the release date?). Am I out of luck?
 
SlowRevolution said:
Is there any way to make the Ultraviolet digital code still work? I got the Blu Ray when it came out but just noticed that the code expired on Dec 4th (which I think was the release date?). Am I out of luck?
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Try hitting it on the underside and then leave it in the disc drive until it can work again.
 
SlowRevolution said:
Is there any way to make the Ultraviolet digital code still work? I got the Blu Ray when it came out but just noticed that the code expired on Dec 4th (which I think was the release date?). Am I out of luck?
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Did you even try to use it before posting? Why would it expire on the day the bluray came out?
 
Sorry for the dumb question, should've looked into it more. Hadn't heard of UltraViolet before this so I thought it could be a preorder/first day purchase incentive or something (get the movie the first day and you get a free code).
 
This movie is goofy as fuck, it must had massy rewrites before the shooting to include so many plot holes in it. Villain is lame. I actually watched it a few times in a row because I enjoyed campy romance. Otherwise this movie is worse than Speed to me.

The worst thing about the movie is the roll your eyes out of sockets villain plots and evil plans. Also, Gotham city was a hybrid of NYC and Chicago; now its 95% NYC. Really Nolan? It takes the fun right out of the stupid comic book movie.
 
I just watched this on DVD for the first time.

I thought it was overall average at best. Plot was a bit nonsensical in the final act. I mean nuclear bombs and city being run by the people under that threat? Military guarding bridges? That said its not really out of left field, what with the microwave emitter in begins and joker's strange ultimatums in dark knight. Begins was much more coherent, and dark knight has the joker. Rises doesn't really have much and without something super compelling I felt the seams showed more.

I do like where the story went, and what happened to the characters. Cat woman was ok. I did actually like bane. I was engaged through the first half, but the city under martial law was all sorts of awkward.

Dark Knight Rises DVD cover summarises my general feeling of the execution: Batman just standing there looking bored. I don't mean to say the film was boring, at least of first watch - it just felt a little lazy, and the action set pieces weren't particularly thrilling. Like aside from the curiosity of seeing the trilogy tie up and Bane himself, I didn't find much there for me.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
you still watch DVDs? Opinion automatically invalid.
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That's pretty unfair.

I didn't get a chance to see it at the theatre, so I bought the blu-ray/DVD combo to watch it.

I don't have my Ps3 any more (and not even a TV), and I can only watch it at a particular time, so it had to be the DVD or not for a long time.


If it counts, I watched Dark Knight at an IMAX!
 
What's the problem with watching movies on dvd? I still do. It's not like it makes them blurry or something. Maybe I'm more accepting of it because I was used to vhs videos quality growing up.
 
In the annals of movie history this movie TDKR, is quite simply a masterpiece. Nolan can be a little too high brow for some of you, so I understand your harsh opinions.

I can assure you though that these three films will be be revered for all eternity, they will be placed in a time capsule for future worlds to see what the height of our creativity as a society was.

Never will Hollywood look at comic movies the same again.

Two words.

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