Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

And my most controversial opinion that I haven't said in awhile that used to rage so many people...

- Wavedashing in Smash Bros. Melee is a glitch. It was never intended to be in the game.

This is not remotely controversial, nor does it matter whether or not it's a glitch.
 
Diablo II is a really good game and everything that has tried to emulate it has dramatically missed the mark and resulted in boring games. Titan Quest, Torchlight 1/2, Path of Exile, all the common favourites.

Tripping in Brawl was a hilarious addition and I thoroughly respect the decision to make such a statement about the game they wanted it to be.

Zelda OoT was amazing but the more the series tries to chase that the further it falls. Darksiders 1 is probably the best OoT since OoT.

Quake 3 is far and away the only arena shooter worth the remembering.

Platinum is the only remaining developer left to care about.

HoN's control feedback (attack points, animations, spells) makes DotA 2 feel like a relic of the past. I'm slowly switching to DotA 2 but it's a real shame it will crush HoN under its massive heel.

The Steam client is extremely poor in terms of performance and features. Valve doesn't deserve its runaway success.
 
PS3 has the most exclusives but 90% of them are terrible. Socom 4 is claimed to be bad but it's not any worse than most of the PS3 exclusives.

Resistance: FoM is still the best PS3 online FPS.

ZombiU is in the Top 5 of best games of 2012.

I've never bought an Uncharted game because the demos were boring. I think the MP is fun but not worth 60 dollars from what I've heard of ND's game changing patches.

Metal Arms: Glitch in the System is leaps and bounds better than PS3's Ratchet and Clank series.

XMB with a custom theme/wallpaper is better than any Xbox interface.
 
I came here to post something close to what you said.

The difference is that i have played some of their games and

Mario was to slow for my liking, i always preferred the pace of the Sonic 16 bit games.

Mario Kart was useless for me, i don't like cartoony arcade racers

Zelda is an RPG, so i'm out.

Wii sport was stupid, ugly and childish.

So yeah, i never liked them and probably never will, considering the types of games they make.

I think GAF will kill me for this, but that how i always felt about them.


It isn't an RPG. Yeah it's got a big overworld but gameplay-wise it's a puzzley action adventure.
 
The illusion of choice in story games is enough, it should not bother us that it's just an illusion. In fact, it's often better for games to collapse into a single great ending than multiple decent ones based on previous actions, because at least the writers can focus on making it consistently fulfilling.

People that retroactively dislike a game when, after finishing the game for themselves, they find out everyone gets a similar ending, make about as much sense as people that dislike the Hobbit when they afterwards find out it's CGI and not real.
 
Honestly, I dislike the Diablo games. No, this is not just retrospective antagonizing the series in light of Diablo III's failure. I just never got into the games, not even back when Diablo II was all the rage in the world. I couldn't bring myself to care for the game one bit. For the longest time, I believed it was because this was simply a genre I was uninterested in, but then I happened to play Torchlight II, which I ended up loving.

I think Torchlight II is better than any of the Diablo games, including yes, Diablo II.
 
Because this thread comes and goes, I had to check what I already posted before to avoid repeating myself.

999 is not a good experience and the cool true ending twist doesn't make up for the pain of actually getting there.
 
Wii Music is one of the greatest things to ever come out of Nintendo. Tragically misunderstood, mainly due to a much greater misunderstanding of music itself. This coming from a lifelong music theory addict.
Yes. Sometimes I feel like such a pariah for loving Wii Music, but I do. Hearing your song build up as you fill in each section was amazing. The track list could of used some bulking up, but what's there is great. Nintendo really delivered on music game this gen.
 
Resident Evil 6 was a step up from RE5 and I don't get all the hate towards the game. The amount of real time action sequence was not as much as what the industry is trying to condemn.

Zelda OOT is still one of the most over rated game ever, the game has not aged well at all even with the 3DS remake. This coming from someone who loves Skyward Sword and Twlight Princess though not as much as WW in the 3D Zelda era.
 
Resident Evil 6 was a step up from RE5 and I don't get all the hate towards the game. The amount of real time action sequence was not as much as what the industry is trying to condemn.

Agreed. I'm playing through RE6 now (finished Leon's campaign last night, just started Chris's campaign), and although it isn't perfect, it's a vastly much better and more enjoyable game than the worthless shitpile that was RE5.

To further elabrate, while RE 1, 2 and 4 are all fun games on their own (never played 3), I think RE 6 is the only RE game I've played where the gameplay has actually been enjoyable. This is largely due to Capcpom finally letting you move while shooting, whereas in all the older games you're fighting the clunky combat as much as you are fighting the enemies in the game.

Also, I think the Silent Hill series has, overall, been way better than Resident Evil all the way back to SH1. Better stories, better use of symbolism in terms of enemy design and how it ties into the personalities/backstories of the protagonists, generally scarier enemy design due to the surreal and otherworldly look, somewhat less reliance on jump scares, better atmosphere, better music and no need to fight the controls as much as in RE as SH has never been quite as combat/action heavy as RE (with the exception of Homecoming, but that fucking sucked anyway). It's just too bad Konami has no clue how to take care of the SH franchise, even though I really liked Downpour and 0rigins.
 
Sony

- Many Sony games in recent memory have been mediocre and only gotten a pass because they're new franchises.
- Sony's best franchise is still the Everybody's Golf series
- Uncharted 2, while very enjoyable, has done more harm to gameplay than Call of Duty. The latter kept it to a single genre, Uncharted's cancerous minimal-gameplay influence extends beyond that. "Sadly" it's a rather good game so all hate is directed towards CoD.
- God of War is immature and mechanically bland. It looks nice though.
- Nobody would have given a shit about Killzone or Resistance if they hadn't been piblished by Sony. (This is not a statement about their quality.)
- Sony's coolest effort this gen was largely ignored. Yes, I'm talking about Afrika.

Microsoft

- Gears of War series are some of the most boring TPS. Very nice weapons and very polished but Max Payne 3, Uncharted 2 and Binary Domain are all more enjoyable to me.
- ... I don't think there are other controversial views over Microsoft, everybody knows that they are pretty terrible aside from Forza and Halo.

Nintendo

- Wind Waker is the worst 3D Zelda. Boring dungeons and a boring overworld, yet Twilight Princess gets much more hate even though it had the best dungeons in the series.
- Sin & Punishment 2 is the best Nintendo game since Super Metroid.
- ... Not a lot of controversial stuff either. Terribly conservative, stubborn and out of touch with gaming. Awful at establishing new franchises or localizing games.

General

- Loot-heavy games are garbage and the entire Diablo-genre is boring
- so are racing simulations like Forza and GT
- JRPGs this gen have had more variety and interesting mechanics than most WRPGs
- the decline of the Japanese gaming industry happened because in the first 3 years of this generation the target audience for AAA was more concerned with presentation and story rather than gameplay
- RAGE is the second-best FPS this generation (Half-Life 2: Episode 2 being the best)
 
I think VII and X are the best games in the Final Fantasy series.

Don't think there's anything wrong with the story in Kingdom Hearts, even if I agree it's incomprehensible and dumb.

The story/cinematics of COD and Halo make the single player of both those games almost unplayable for me.
 
The most worthless conversations people can have are "but is this game REALLY a ______ game?" It comes up constantly, particularly with RPGs and fighting games, and it's never interesting. The classic example is the Smash Bros. series. If enough people enjoy playing those games competitively, who cares if they are labeled as fighting games or not? Why not just talk about whether or not its mechanics are worth investing a lot of time into? And don't even get me started on the even shittier subset of these discussions: "is this really a jRPG or a wRPG?"

People get *heated* about this labeling shit, to the point where they're not actually talking about the games themselves anymore. People are arguing about whether or not the Zelda games are RPGs just a few posts above me...

Edit: I'll also say that Bulletstorm is easily the best playing first person shooter released this generation.
 
- Super Mario Sunshine is the best Mario game, far outshining the Galaxies who were bleak hybrids of the 3D and 2D games.

- Metroid: Other M is a fine game whose main issues are the lack of a control stick and a handful of plotholes.

- Pokémon keeps getting better, even if it will never feel quite the same as the first time.

- Achievements make games more enjoyable... to a certain point, after which they become excruciating for completionists. I know I can ignore them, but if they aren't there, 100%-ing the game will be a lot more reasonable.

- The GameCube is the best system of all time.
 
Zelda games lost a lot of emotion when they dropped the OoT-originating "bmm" and "bddle-m" sounds when progressing dialogue.
Outside of polygon counts, there is literally nothing at all that FFXIII has over FFXII.
FFX-2 would've been perfectly fine if the official, final ending cut off before Tidus was revived.
 
Most games are too damn long.

Walking Dead was ok & had some great story moments, but didn't deserve the sheer amount of media hype, also, Telltale shouldn't get a free pass for their bugs and horrible customer service attitude to fixing them.

Fez was just an awful romp through obscure puzzles with absolutely no payoff at the end of it.
 
Another one: Open world "you can do everything" type of games are tedious and bland as fuck. There's already a huge, massive online game where you can do almost everything and take one bajillion meaningless decisions with permanent consequences its name is "real life". And we play videogames because we find real life boring most of times. Open worlds are no substitute for well designed levels, two billion options are redundant and unnecessary if only two of them are remotely interesting, dairly life already provide us with filler content and fetch quests aplenty, and grinding plain and simply sucks bollocks.
 
The Walking Dead is average at best. Same goes for Army of Two and L.A. Noire.

The Uncharted series was very, very boring for me, but not as much as LittleBigPlanet (couldn't stand that one).

Mojang (and, by extension, Minecraft) is the one of the worst things that happened to game industry this generation. Since their runaway success they've continued to dick around without actually releasing anything worthwhile (I've given up on them around the "wolves" update, which was pathetic). The things that have been promised before MC's alpha still aren't implemented, Scrolls continues to look awful since it was announced, etc.
 
Resident Evil 6 was a step up from RE5 and I don't get all the hate towards the game. The amount of real time action sequence was not as much as what the industry is trying to condemn.

Zelda OOT is still one of the most over rated game ever, the game has not aged well at all even with the 3DS remake. This coming from someone who loves Skyward Sword and Twlight Princess though not as much as WW in the 3D Zelda era.

OOT was a disappointment for me. Maybe I wasn't young enough to be as blown away by it as some but the flaws and cut corners, due to technical limitations and time were really glaring, it was also far too easy in the last quarter. Some of the dungeon design is truly superb though.

On the other hand Majora's Mask really surprised me. I held off buying it because the concept sounded awkward and I thought it would largely be an inferior retread of the first. I was so glad I was wrong. It fixes all the issues with the first and expands and improves in just about every aspect. There are some great little stories in there and the world is vivid and convincing. I think it'll always be one of my top games of all time - it puts OOT in the shade for me.

I used to love Zelda games, I thought the puzzles and level design was fantastic but after breezing through Twilight Princess I realised I was just too familiar with the series to find and interesting challenge there any more. I could just see through the puzzles without any thought and the whole thing just felt like going through the motions.

These days Portal 1/2 give me what I used enjoy the Zelda games for. And if I want to explore a fantastical world there are other games that do that better too. I don't think I could genuinely enjoy another mainline Zelda title again. They just haven't moved with the times and the cosy familiarity is starting to breed contempt. I need something different now. Bigger, tougher, deeper, better.
 
- Hideo Kojima is the worst writer of all time.
- The PS3 is doing better than it should.
- WiiU will be the last Nintendo console.
- All Mario Kart games after the first one were shit.
- Gametrailers is a really good site.
- ICO and SOTC are almost unplayable.
- Gears series should have ended after the first one
- Halo 1 was the only good Halo, the series is outdated.
- FPSs without ADS should not exist.
- LA Noire was fantastic


I could go on for hours - this is so much fun!
 
- Hideo Kojima is the worst writer of all time.
- The PS3 is doing better than it should.
- WiiU will be the last Nintendo console.
- All Mario Kart games after the first one were shit.
- Gametrailers is a really good site.
- ICO and SOTC are almost unplayable.
- Gears series should have ended after the first one
- Halo 1 was the only good Halo, the series is outdated.
- FPSs without ADS should not exist.
- LA Noire was fantastic


I could go on for hours - this is so much fun!

- FPSs without ADS should not exist.

What is ADS?

(Mario Kart DS is really good by the way.)
 
-Kingdom Hearts Final Mix > Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix

-Final Fantasy X is one of the worst Final Fantasy games

-Final Fantasy XII is one of the best Final Fantasy games

-Metal Gear Solid 4 was a great game

I see nothing controversial here. It's the truth.

MGS4 just had some terrible writing in certain parts. Loved the gameplay and cutscenes though.
 
The Walking Dead is average at best. Same goes for Army of Two and L.A. Noire.

Did you actually mean Army of Two here? I'm not saying it's better than average, it's just that seeing that game between Walking Dead and LA Noire is strange. I'd expect something like Heavy Rain instead.
 
Did you actually mean Army of Two here? I'm not saying it's better than average, it's just that seeing that game between Walking Dead and LA Noire is strange. I'd expect something like Heavy Rain instead.

I was actually looking at a pile of games near the TV and counting them out. The list wasn't intended to be about narrative/mood heavy games, just the ones that I played recently and remember as being average (yet getting a lot of positive opinions).
 
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