Rumored Chinese Forum Xbox720 specs: 8CoreCPU,8GB,HD8800GPU,W8,640GBHDD
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fortastral
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A fusion of HDD and SSD with ample caching memory would certainly be an awesome thing and not even that expensive 
NemesisPrime
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Probably a hybrid drive then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive
Would be VERY impressive if true.
The 680, the 7970 is no slouch but if I recall its around 10-15% slower depending which games you are playing. The HD8870 should be on par or at least 5% faster than the GTX680
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I use a 750GB Hybrid Drive for my PS3 which I bought on sale for $100.
http://www.seagate.com/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/momentus-xt-hybrid/
If properly optimized for the console, it can do wonders.
NemesisPrime
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Indeed. It isn't as good as a real SSD, but on fixed hardware it could be a real winner and it is only a bit more expensive.
It looks like MS is going for a very interesting approach with lot's of small things/ideas to increase performance (if rumors are true). Could be a very exciting well-designed console with some killer performance.
Forget a SSD... way too expensive for consoles. I would pay for it TBH, but 98% of the people would not. I love my PC SSD.
nah, MS is not going to sell a 700 dollar console. No matter what manner of cutting edge voodoo tech they decided on they'll crunch the numbers until they settle on something at least as low as 499. They're coming to win (and they need a win right now) but not by pricing themselves too high or bleeding to much cake on each unit sold. I'm sure they have it all figured out. Though I must admit all of this additional "special sauce" talk has me intrigued.
CrunchinJelly
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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It is. It's faster too! http://techreport.com/review/22057/seagate-momentus-xt-750gb-hybrid-hard-drive
"Impressively, the 750GB XT's boot time brings it to within just two seconds of the fastest SSD."
BD-ROMs can read upto 14x. I would love to have a BD-ROM that can read BDXL. A lot of current drives do so and are relatively the same price as a regular BD-ROM.
infinityBCRT
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A proper hybrid drive isn't very good from what I've heard for everyday scenarios. Instead, something like Apple is doing with its fusion technology is much more interesting. Store the OS, saved games and cache onto the SSD. Large storage (game content downloads) goes onto the the regular HDD.
It all boils down of how it's used then. May be cool.
Man it's still only January, so much rumors it's crazy.
CrunchinJelly
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I can't see MS going with a hybrid drive. They're going to go with the cheapest drive possible.
There will be a ssd.
Wait till you guys see how Microsoft is handling memory for your content.
You all have no idea.
Edit:
Well not a ssd but a storage device that offers speed like a ssd.
And you have this info how...?
I don't think SSD will ever be used for games outside OS and programs like Photoshop
JonathanPower
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It's not a question of being in agreement with me, it's a question of avoiding yield issues.
It's more than four cores.
eso76
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There will be a ssd.
Wait till you guys see how Microsoft is handling memory for your content.
You all have no idea.
Edit:
Well not a ssd but a storage device that offers speed like a ssd.
in other words, you won't be able to replace x720 hdd with your own.
At least, this might justify the outrageous price point at which official ones are going to be sold
Baconsammy
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And it will be proprietary. Microsoft is good at making money.
higherARC05
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O yea
you, very tasty.
kikonawa
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trying
DeFiBkIlLeR
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Is it though....if it's AMD based, wont it be 4 'proper cores' with 2 threads each..?
In the same way AMD FX CPU's are 8 cores, but not really..
It might be 2 blocks of 4 cores, jaguar cores, going by the rumor.
MikeE21286
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There will be a ssd.
Wait till you guys see how Microsoft is handling memory for your content.
You all have no idea.
Edit:
Well not a ssd but a storage device that offers speed like a ssd.
Well that's fun!
higherARC05
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It is.
MikeE21286
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Xbox 360 would also be 1000$+ if we judged by what the top GPU cost was in 2005
7800GTX had a 600$ cost alone (the whole PC would be 1500$+) and xbox 360 whole only had a 300$ cost
DeFiBkIlLeR
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Interesting, this on Xbitlabs..
"The amount of cores in one Jaguar-powered accelerated processing unit can be up to four."
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...ext_Generation_Jaguar_Micro_Architecture.html
So could indeed be some kind of weird custom dual Jaguar APU setup...
I find myself again falling back to "nothing in durango is easily comparable to currently available consumer parts." More than 8 logical processors. Probably less than 16.
There would be nothing weird about it. APU with two Jaguar compute units, directly connected with bigass GPU, ESRAM and a secret sauce. All inside of one die.
Reports say its MONOLITHIC die, so who knows what they are preparing...
I bought one for 450 in 2006. That was expensive but it ran Oblivion better than the 360 at higher res as well.
Good investment if you ask me, and I don't think current hardware is going to struggle much to run console ports better considering the next-gen consoles are not powerhouses (if the specs are correct).
Don't interpret these specs like you would for normals PC one's.
gaming_noob
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This is very exciting news. Thanks for continually sharing tidbits.
alexandros
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Yeah. Assuming that devs put in at least the minimum of effort, people with higher-end PC hardware should be good to go already.
DeFiBkIlLeR
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Sure it will have some custom optimisations compared to the consumer parts, but if its based on jaguar tech, the level of performance wont be too far removed as to make it a pointless comparison.
I bet the clock speeds on the Durango will be substantially lower than the home PC ones in order to meet power and heat constraints of a small confined console with limited cooling, meaning much higher clocked PC jaguars would easily match the performance of a custom tweaked durango.
The devkits would indicate otherwise.
MikeE21286
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See this is very weird to me.
I'm not super knowledgable on processors and RAM and the like, but I know enough to be dangerous.
The general consensus is seemingly that these specs are even somewhat above the expected range of what would be in next-gen consoles.
Out of curiousity, if you know about the dev kits, why not run a news story about it? NDA?
Not enough sources willing to go on the record. We actually have pretty strict standards on the site about this kind of thing. But I've heard from enough sources to be reasonably confident about certain things, and be somewhat confident about other things. Like I've said, I'm not worried about being wrong, though I don't believe that I am.
THE:MILKMAN
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Do the devkits now have final silicon?
systemfehler
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Post it here then ;-)
Karak
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MikeE21286
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lol... MS Ninjas are on their way to you.
Oh, I was just speaking about Processors and RAM in general. Not specifically the processors and RAM in the new Xbox
Sorry, I can see how the way I worded it made it seem like I did.