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[Spinluck]

I'm not ruling this out, but I'd expect SSB4 to come out first.

Especially if SSB4 is criticized for being too casual, I might expect Sakurai to feel guilty and throw us a bone. He's already acknowledged and apologized about Brawl.

Really, this is the HD port. With a solid online system, this game could go on for a very, very long time.

Wow did he? Is there a link or anything to this?

This gives me hope that the next Smash will be less casual online also.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Let's get our minds off the hype for a sec.

Spoiler

Yah right, lol

What are you all doing to kill time before all hell breaks loose? Besides abusing the F5 button.

You son of a..! Oh fennekin is so cute!

 

[Chet Rippo]

... Yes.



Could work as a shooter.

 

[Box]

Wow did he? Is there a link or anything to this?

This gives me hope that the next Smash will be less casual online also.

I'm remembering this second hand so my mind may have exaggerated a bit, but I'm sure he made some sort of acknowledgement that Brawl didn't live up the expectations of Melee players. He didn't regret his decision, but he expressed sympathy iirc.

 

[Ezalc]

Nope
it was found on Miiverse
HERE, FULL STORY

Ah there we go, thanks!

I'm not ruling this out, but I'd expect SSB4 to come out first.

Especially if SSB4 is criticized for being too casual, I might expect Sakurai to feel guilty and throw us a bone. He's already acknowledged and apologized about Brawl.

Really, this is the HD port. With a solid online system, this game could go on for a very, very long time.

When was this?

EDIT:

I'm remembering this second hand so my mind may have exaggerated a bit, but I'm sure he made some sort of acknowledgement that Brawl didn't live up the expectations of Melee players. He didn't regret his decision, but he expressed sympathy iirc.

And this is why I don't trust the man with the franchise anymore.

 

[ffdgh]

I would love if nintendo released all the mario 64 and by extension NSMB DS minigames on the 3ds eshop with more if possible.

So many wasted hours with that tranporine minigame and luigi's card games.

 

[ohlawd]

hah my old avatar.

I'll be saving that, thank you.

 

[Box]

And this is why I don't trust the man with the franchise anymore.

It's better than being clueless, at least. And it's what makes me think that a Melee remake might show up sometime.

Brawl had problems other than being too casual though, SSB4 has the chance to improve on those.

 

[Aquamarine]

Wow did he? Is there a link or anything to this?

This gives me hope that the next Smash will be less casual online also.

I'm remembering this second hand so my mind may have exaggerated a bit, but I'm sure he made some sort of acknowledgement that Brawl didn't live up the expectations of Melee players. He didn't regret his decision, but he expressed sympathy iirc.

Here's an interview with him...

http://www.1up.com/news/masahiro-sakurai-reflects-super-smash

Here he said Melee was the best game in the franchise, but he also said that Melee was "too difficult" and wasn't accessible enough, so Brawl's "greater accessibility" was necessary.

I don't think he ever outright APOLOGIZED for Brawl, unless someone can find another interview with him.

But I do believe this means we'll see more of a healthy medium between Brawl's casual-ness and Melee's hardcore-ness.

Basically, no tripping.

 

[the androgyne]

Semi-expecting Yoshi Land & Diddy Kong Racing just cause that's all that's been rumoured much. Though i think these are odd games for Nintendo to release now, assuming Yoshi is 2D when we just had 2D Mario, and DKR will obviously double up with an inevitable Mario Kart. Obligatory hoping as ever for new Wave Race & F-Zero, thought Starfox is more likely given Miyamoto's at least mentioned it in a non-stupid manner.

Frankly i hope they haven't wasted any resources on GC for Virtual Console. I don't understand the fascination, didn't everyone get their Gamecube kick out of BC on the Wii? Particularly now that there's barely a satisfactory solution for GC controls too.

Or a Wii U Virtual Console for that matter. For me personally i played and still have everything i want from the old generations (and would rather buy physical on Ebay if i didn't). It must take a significant amount of resources on an ongoing basis to populate the Virtual Console even at the slowest trickle speed, it's just not worth it when they could be using the resources to make new games.

 

[onilink88]

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a Fire Emblem on the Wii U, but I don't think that's going to happen (any time soon, at least). I see them riding out the insane momentum created by Awakening on the 3DS. I just don't see why it'd appear on the Wii U given the fact that Awakening's opening demolished PoR's and RD's LTD (hell, even Shadow Dragon and New Mystery opened quite a bit higher). For the time being, I think FE's future is on the 3DS.

 

[jeremy1456]

Guys guys guys... I just had a thought.

Retro Studios developed Diddy Kong Racing 2.

Would be incredible.

 

[Kyzer]

MS is almost definitely revealing the new Xbox on Thursday.

Nintendo will be dropping. Bombs.

 

[Tehalemi]

You son of a..! Oh fennekin is so cute!

>:3

http://i.minus.com/ibtRCPvca2V2OC.gif

@_@ You know more and more you make me want to actually check out whatever anime your gifs come from. For now though, I'm off to retire to my chambers. I expect biblical meltdowns when I wake up 1 hour before showtime.

Don't stay up too late Gaf, you've got a big day ahead of you.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Talking about anime Im going to watch some say I love you.

 

[Spinluck]

I'm remembering this second hand so my mind may have exaggerated a bit, but I'm sure he made some sort of acknowledgement that Brawl didn't live up the expectations of Melee players. He didn't regret his decision, but he expressed sympathy iirc.

Sounds like Sakurai lol.

I really hope he gives us the Smash we need, but don't deserve right now.

 

[Box]

Here's an interview with him...

http://www.1up.com/news/masahiro-sakurai-reflects-super-smash

Here he said Melee was the best game in the franchise, but he also said that Melee was "too difficult" and wasn't accessible enough, so Brawl's "greater accessibility" was necessary.

I don't think he ever outright APOLOGIZED for Brawl, unless someone can find another interview with him.

But I do believe this means we'll see more of a healthy medium between Brawl's casual-ness and Melee's hardcore-ness.

Basically, no tripping.

Eh, close enough. The point is that he understands the difference.

I don't think his assessment is correct, though. Melee didn't have trouble catching on. You can play it a lot without being very good as many people have done for years.

Even ignoring that, though, Melee is just a really well put together game, unlike Brawl which is a disorganized and overambitious mess.

 

[Chet Rippo]

hah my old avatar.

I'll be saving that, thank you.

I was trying to find an excuse to post it.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

So it's 10:44 P.M

The Conf. is in 8 hours.

I have school tomorrow.

LET'S DO THIS.

 

[Hip Hop]

MS is almost definitely revealing the new Xbox on Thursday.

Nintendo will be dropping. Bombs.

This Thursday?

Did I miss something?

 

[Chrom]

Fire Emblem on Wii U would be amazing.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Guys guys guys... I just had a thought.

Retro Studios developed Diddy Kong Racing 2.

Would be incredible.

Would be more Monstrous than incredible.

Spoiler

I know nothing, I am pulling chains.

 

[Aquamarine]

This Thursday?

Did I miss something?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508975

Note the thread title.

 

[onilink88]

Even ignoring that, though, Melee is just a really well put together game, unlike Brawl which is a disorganized and overambitious mess.

I completely disagree with this. Aside from the tripping, I thought Brawl was by far the better game.

 

[FearMyWrench]

I have a hard time believing all of this Yoshi's Land talk. Look at the other game titles in that list from the hacked Miiverse... seems to me they just out in a bunch of silly names for testing.

As for the Future Shop/Best Buy listings... Since they came up after the leak, I can only assume someone at the company saw the leak and hastily put it up without thinking.

 

[DragonKnight]

MS is almost definitely revealing the new Xbox on Thursday.

Nintendo will be dropping. Bombs.

I love love ur avatar. But i dunno man

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I feel like I played a different Brawl than everyone else.

I can see how it wouldn't be to everyone's tastes and could definitely see why fans of Melee would dislike it, but the general consensus seems to be that it's actually poorly built and designed.

I'm no game analysis rube or anything but the claims that Brawl is just outright terrible just fly right past me.

 

[Darryl]

I completely disagree with this. Aside from the tripping, I thought Brawl was by far the better game.

much better to play with friends

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508975

Note the thread title.

yea no way is the next xbox coming out at that

 

[Aquamarine]

I have a hard time believing all of this Yoshi's Land talk. Look at the other game titles in that list from the hacked Miiverse... seems to me they just out in a bunch of silly names for testing.

As for the Future Shop/Best Buy listings... Since they came up after the leak, I can only assume someone at the company saw the leak and hastily put it up without thinking.

And published it in a magazine? Really?

 

[onilink88]

I feel like I played a different Brawl than everyone else.

I can see how it wouldn't be to everyone's tastes and could definitely see why fans of Melee would dislike it, but the general consensus seems to be that it's actually poorly built and designed.

I'm no game analysis rube or anything but the claims that Brawl is just outright terrible just fly right past me.

Yeah, I don't get it myself.

 

[Roo]

And published it in a magazine? Really?

Wouldn't be the first time...

 

[FearMyWrench]

And published it in a magazine? Really?

You're right, I can't explain that. Either way, the whole thing just seems unlikely to me.

 

[Thoraxes]

I feel like I played a different Brawl than everyone else.

I can see how it wouldn't be to everyone's tastes and could definitely see why fans of Melee would dislike it, but the general consensus seems to be that it's actually poorly built and designed.

I'm no game analysis rube or anything but the claims that Brawl is just outright terrible just fly right past me.

I too am the same. It's a bit slower, but still a ton of fun.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

The Futureshop/Best Buy listings were put up by the same person.

I don't think it's any more true than DK3D, but who knows.

 

[DjRoomba]

And published it in a magazine? Really?

It was published in a magazine! it must be true!
lol
Not to say I dont think its real though, I think it may be.

 

[ffdgh]

I completely disagree with this. Aside from the tripping, I thought Brawl was by far the better game.

Balance wise it was bad. Tis some what floaty, removed some nice tricks like L-cancel, combos are near impossible with the lowered hitstun, somewhat slow and other things.

Those issues aside I still enjoy it.

 

[Instro]

You and the Skies of Arcadia 2 poster are going on my ignore list tomorrow at 9:31 AM EST.

Some things just shouldn't be joked about.

 

[Nairume]

I feel like I played a different Brawl than everyone else.

I can see how it wouldn't be to everyone's tastes and could definitely see why fans of Melee would dislike it, but the general consensus seems to be that it's actually poorly built and designed.

I'm no game analysis rube or anything but the claims that Brawl is just outright terrible just fly right past me.

Yeah, but it wasn't designed to specifically please a very niche population of gamers, so thus it's awful forever and Sakurai is a worse designer than Dennis Dyack and Derek Smart combined.

 

[Mr. Fix]

Eh, close enough. The point is that he understands the difference.

I don't think his assessment is correct, though. Melee didn't have trouble catching on. You can play it a lot without being very good as many people have done for years.

Even ignoring that, though, Melee is just a really well put together game, unlike Brawl which is a disorganized and overambitious mess.

I seriously hope you're not downplaying the modes, extras, and music.

 

[HYDE]

Please take the arguments about Melee/Brawl to that thread please k thanks.

 

[Ezalc]

I feel like I played a different Brawl than everyone else.

I can see how it wouldn't be to everyone's tastes and could definitely see why fans of Melee would dislike it, but the general consensus seems to be that it's actually poorly built and designed.

I'm no game analysis rube or anything but the claims that Brawl is just outright terrible just fly right past me.

The problem being that it had many useless features and they spent a majority of their time working on a terrible aspect of the game that given its' genre shouldn't have had that much thought put into it, and if it did then at least make something that wasn't as horrible as the end result. Aside from that, it just meant that the resources gone into working with a rather useless mode took away from things a game like this actually needed, like better online.

I completely disagree with this. Aside from the tripping, I thought Brawl was by far the better game.

This isn't even remotely true, Brawl disappointed almost in every category for me.

Eh, close enough. The point is that he understands the difference.

I don't think his assessment is correct, though. Melee didn't have trouble catching on. You can play it a lot without being very good as many people have done for years.

Even ignoring that, though, Melee is just a really well put together game, unlike Brawl which is a disorganized and overambitious mess.

The problem being that he's focusing on its', from what it sounds like anyway, instead of all the other mistakes he made. Mainly a terrible online and worse campaign mode.

 

[NMFried]

I'm imagining a 2.5D Yoshi game with crayon textures and physics.

I'm imagining four player co-op.

I'm liking what I'm imagining.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

I feel like I played a different Brawl than everyone else.

I can see how it wouldn't be to everyone's tastes and could definitely see why fans of Melee would dislike it, but the general consensus seems to be that it's actually poorly built and designed.

I'm no game analysis rube or anything but the claims that Brawl is just outright terrible just fly right past me.

I really liked Brawl too (in fact, I like it more overall!), but it does have a few weird shortcomings compared to Melee.

Like, trophies. Seriously, Melee had all of these totally original trophies that reimagined Nintendo characters of years past, and most of Brawl's trophies were model rips from GC and Wii games.

And it is weird how the usefulness of characters got so messed up; in Melee you could do well with just about any character except, like, Pichu. A third of Brawl's characters felt like you shouldn't even bother with them.

 

[Codeblue]

Even ignoring that, though, Melee is just a really well put together game, unlike Brawl which is a disorganized and overambitious mess.

Let's not get crazy here.

I guess I'm in the minority but I don't want Melee + online, I don't want more Brawl, I want Sakurai to continue to make each game a different flavor. If you want to play Melee, it still exists, we can (and are) still playing it.

This isn't even remotely true, Brawl disappointed almost in every category for me.

It's almost like you're two different people.

 

[Jawmuncher]

I'm expecting the Vitality sensor 2.0 for use with RE Revelations

Spoiler

no I'm not

 

[Nairume]

This isn't even remotely true, Brawl disappointed almost in every category for me.

Maybe you need to pay more attention to that part.

 

[UrbanRats]

Not having to stay up all night to watch this, almost doesn't feel as good.
Gimme them E3 all nighters.

 

[EloquentM]

YOSHI LANDDDDD BELIEEEVEEEE

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

I really liked Brawl too (in fact, I like it more overall!), but it does have a few weird shortcomings compared to Melee.

Like, trophies. Seriously, Melee had all of these totally original trophies that reimagined Nintendo characters of years past, and most of Brawl's trophies were model rips from GC and Wii games.

Yeah, Trophies was definitely a notable downgrade from Melee. There were a few original models, but they were all obscure characters like from Magical Vacation, some Japanese-only mecha game, and Squitter the Spider.

 

[Anth0ny]

I'm imagining a 2.5D Yoshi game with crayon textures and physics.

I'm imagining four player co-op.

I'm liking what I'm imagining.

Now imagine a sequel to Yoshi's Story, and less a sequel to Yoshi's Island.