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I've been getting a good laugh out of this today, and thought I'd share.

Some men's rights activists (MRAs) from Reddit and 4chan decided to make their own version of the #INeedFeminismBecause hashtag. Thus, #INeedMasculismBecause was born. Things didn't quite go as planned, though, as feminists quickly turned the hashtag into an excuse to make fun of MRAs.

It's my personal opinion that MRAs are annoying as hell. I have several specific critiques, but it's mostly just that they willfully misconstrue feminism. Feminism is an all-encompassing anti-oppression analysis that seeks to attack patriarchy. MRAs ignore that, and insist that feminists just hate men (which, as a male feminist, I find funny). They're also ignorant to the many ways in which patriarchy hurts men, like male violence and self-alienation.

Anyways, here's a few of my favorite parody tweets.

And here's a representative example of a serious one:

#INeedMasculismBecause - Enjoy!

 

[Riggs]

Wonder what kind of posters this thread will attract.

Some of these are kind of funny at least.

 

[params7]

Hilarious? Those are pretty pathetic. Both sides are. Crazy feminists and crazy MRA's should just be ignored, not hated upon.

 

[Row]

pretty lame either way

 

[Krev]

This one is great.

 

[DominoKid]

MRAs basically exist to troll feminism. They're not that bad.

 

[Peru]

MRAs basically exist to troll feminism. They're not that bad.

That's plenty bad. They're very bad.

 

[Vermillion]

Meh?

 

[params7]

That's plenty bad. They're very bad.

Nah

 

[goomba]

I don't agree with feminism or masculism , how about, gee i dunno , equality !?

 

[sprsk]

I actually don't know what half of those guys are trying to say.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Crazy feminists and crazy MRA's should just be dealt with ignorance, not hate.

I don't understand what you're saying here.

Are you saying we should IGNORE crazy people, or treat them with ignorance?

MRAs basically exist to troll feminism. They're not that bad.

Westboro Baptist exists to troll decency. They're easily handwaved away, but that doesn't make them any less fucked.

I don't agree with feminism or masculism , how about, gee i dunno , equality !?

One of those is necessary in some measure to pursue equality. The other is more about preserving a status quo that isn't exactly fair.

 

[Grakl]

These are some weird names.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Also, Masculism looks like a totally fabricated word that my brain keeps thinking is spelled wrong. My eyes keep tripping over it.

 

[Vermillion]

I don't agree with feminism or masculism , how about, gee i dunno , equality !?

That would be feminism...

I'm starting to think that the name should be changed for the sake of those who don't know. Plenty of women, even, describe their views, which is essentially the goal of feminism, then say that they aren't feminists. Name doesn't help, I don't think.

 

[params7]

I don't understand what you're saying here.

Are you saying we should IGNORE crazy people, or treat them with ignorance?

Latter. Their crazy stems from a need for attention either ways.

 

[Zabka]

Some real progress being made here

 

[Omikaru]

I've been following this hashtag on and off for several hours now. Glad to see this backfire for the MRAs so monumentally. Good stuff!

I don't agree with feminism or masculism , how about, gee i dunno , equality !?

If you think feminism is about anything but equality (both establishing and defending it) then you don't understand feminism.

You're basically saying, "I don't agree with equality or the people who have mislabeled feminism as some sort of female superiority movement, how about, gee i dunno, equality !?"

 

[Alucrid]

#ineedmasculismbecause i hope to become e-famous on tweeter

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Latter. Their crazy stems from a need for attention either ways.

Okay, so I'm confused again - what do you mean by "treat them with ignorance" then?

 

[depths20XX]

Guys need to realize that feminism helps them too. It's the name that throws these dudes off.

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

I don't agree with feminism or masculism , how about, gee i dunno , equality !?

Isn't the point of feminism trying to be equal with men?

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

I actually don't know what half of those guys are trying to say.

Roundabout speak to make themselves sound smart and to validate their cause.

 

[goomba]

I don't understand what you're saying here.

Are you saying we should IGNORE crazy people, or treat them with ignorance?



Westboro Baptist exists to troll decency. They're easily handwaved away, but that doesn't make them any less fucked.



One of those is necessary in some measure to pursue equality. The other is more about preserving a status quo that isn't exactly fair.

Is it fair that only women have reproductive rights (abortion , adoption) whereas men are stuck with whatever the mother decides (plus financial support if she decides to keep it)?

 

[Kinyou]

#INeedMasculismBecause I don't even lift.

 

[lopaz]

OHHHH the old "all men's problems are caused by the patriarchy" NONSENSE apex fallacy.

If you want to call a system that is dominated by 0.1% of men as an elite class and severely repressed all the others patriarchy, go ahead. Keep pretending that anti-male discrimination in family and criminal courts doesn't exist. Keep pretending shit laws like VAWA aren't criminalising men on trumped up charges while funneling money to radfem organisations who would happily commit genocide against "genetically inferior" males.

Jesus Christ this forum is so full of white knights it hurts

 

[Earthstrike]

I don't agree with feminism or masculism , how about, gee i dunno , equality !?

Feminism is about equality. If you want cultural and legal equality for men and women, then you are a feminist.

 

[TheRagnCajun]

pretty lame either way

This sums up my thoughts.

 

[jchap]

Hardcore feminists... the few I have encountered have been super annoying.

 

[lopaz]

Guys need to realize that feminism helps them too. It's the name that throws these dudes off.

the name and everything they do.

the minute feminists start demanding equal time for equal crimes, equal custody rights, or equal registration for the draft is the day I believe they care one tiny bit about men

NEXT

 

[Vermillion]

OHHHH the old "all men's problems are caused by the patriarchy" NONSENSE apex fallacy.

If you want to call a system that is dominated by 0.1% of men as an elite class and severely repressed all the others patriarchy, go ahead. Keep pretending that anti-male discrimination in family and criminal courts doesn't exist. Keep pretending shit laws like VAWA aren't criminalising men on trumped up charges while funneling money to radfem organisations who would happily commit genocide against "genetically inferior" males.

Jesus Christ this forum is so full of white knights it hurts

I don't think you understand what is meant by dominance.

Furthermore, who do you believe passes down the judgment in family/criminal courts? The women? Or the guys who think that the woman's role as caretaker is absolute?

 

[Al-ibn Kermit]

I wonder who's going to try to own the #twatter hashtag?

 

[Omikaru]

Jesus Christ this forum is so full of white knights it hurts

Oh the old "white knight" jibe. Subtly implying that any man who calls themselves a feminist is only doing it as some twisted goal to get sex at the end of it.

 

[lopaz]

Feminism is about equality. If you want cultural and legal equality for men and women, then you are a feminist.

hahahahaha no. take a look on radfemhub one of these days

there are tons of feminists who are supremacists and openly hate males

 

[params7]

Okay, so I'm confused again - what do you mean by "treat them with ignorance" then?

Its what parents do when their kids never stop asking for toys. If you still don't understand this, have kids.

 

[Brian Griffin]

Feminism is about equality. If you want cultural and legal equality for men and women, then you are a feminist.

Was just going to post this. The movement would really benefit from a name change though.

hahahahaha no. take a look on radfemhub one of these days

there are tons of feminists who are supremacists and openly hate males

Then they're not feminists.

 

[Cipherr]

Furthermore, who do you believe passes down the judgment in family/criminal courts? The women? Or the guys

Are you high? Both of them do.

hahahahaha no. take a look on radfemhub one of these days

there are tons of feminists who are supremacists and openly hate males

The sane ones that are truly for equality definitely need to spin off and bring it under a different name. It currently houses a lot of loonies that use it as a badge for their men hating nonsense, and there are Men that for some reason reflexively oppose it just because its called 'feminism'. A new name for it might help but who knows.

 

[CrankyJay]

Feminism is about equality. If you want cultural and legal equality for men and women, then you are a feminist.

I have a female friend that said she wants more than men. She doesn't really identify herself as a feminist though. Anyway, is there an official definition anyway?

 

[Yoshiya]

Jesus Christ this forum is so full of white knights it hurts

You sound like someone who doesn't interact much with women.

 

[JABEE]

Both sides of this debate seem to be really stupid based on the tweets in the OP.

 

[Riggs]

Lopaz don't even try bro. Not worth them cuffs.

(Btw bet your a virgin hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - only response they got)

 

[Vermillion]

hahahahaha no. take a look on radfemhub one of these days

there are tons of feminists who are supremacists and openly hate males

And you assume that this is the majority?

 

[Krev]

Keep pretending shit laws like VAWA aren't criminalising men on trumped up charges while funneling money to radfem organisations who would happily commit genocide against "genetically inferior" males.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Both sides are. Crazy feminists and crazy MRA's should just be dealt with ignorance, not hate.

What does "dealt with ignorance" even mean?

Do you mean "should be ignored"?

 

[lopaz]

Oh the old "white knight" argument. Subtly implying that any man who calls themselves feminist is only doing it as some twisted goal to get sex at the end of it.

yeah because they are most of the time lol

the 'white knight' label is based on the hugely outdated paradigm of chivalry, where men would nobly protect women on the tacit understanding they would get sex from it.

feminists want to maintain the advantages they got under chivalry and do away with the 'obligations'

 

[Antiwhippy]

hahahahaha no. take a look on radfemhub one of these days

there are tons of feminists who are supremacists and openly hate males

Yes, because the extremists define every movement.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Is it fair that only women have reproductive rights (abortion , adoption) whereas men are stuck with whatever the mother decides (plus financial support if she decides to keep it)?

I guess as a guy you need to figure out how, as a person, to appeal to the person actually carrying the child to term so as to ensure you aren't cut out of the decisionmaking process when it comes to the child.

I figure they're the ones gestating a human being inside of them for 9 months, it's probably fair that they get a little more say/concern than the person who had an orgasm in them once after a couple of minutes.

 

[CHEEZMO™]

MRAs are basically the gender equivalent of the people who go "WHY NO WHITE HISTORY MONTH, HUH?!?!?! IT'S RACISM AGAINST WHITES, Y'SEE!!!"

Then again given how much crossover there is in the Racist/MRA Venn diagramme it isn't very surprising.

 

[lopaz]

Mary Kellet. look her up. look up her links to radfemhub

yes she is a judge. surprised?

 

[Vermillion]

Are you high? Both of them do.

Precisely.

Now, where does that belief come from...?