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[AlexBasch]

If they leave online play alone, but PS World is the new Plus, then cool, go with it.

I don't think Sony will start charging for online play, I mean, this is why some people pick their console over Xbox.

 

[Killthee]

Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

 

[Carl]

Because when the store updates while you're at work lol) you can use your phone to buy and automatically download your games so they're waiting for you when you get home.

So you don't have to be physically next to it start downloading stuff?

I read "control it with your phone" and "initial downloads via your phone" as separate points. That'd be good though yeah

 

[guek]

Paying for online? Consoles priced out of my budget for 2-3 years? This is gonna be the BEST GEN EVAR!!

 

[Seance]

#FiveHundredandTwntyNineUSDollars #Bomba

Definitely won't be that expensive.

Also why is there an ugly and cheap looking third-party peripheral in the OP?

 

[7he Talon]

That controller looks weird to me.

 

[Kouichi]

"Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus."

hmm

statement edited into OP

If they follow this path, I hope they still give away free games if you're part of the service.

 

[blitzcloud]

if sony charges for online gaming or anything that doesn't use their servers (i mean, i canunderstand party voice chatting through a relay server as a premium, but not online gaming) i'm "out" this new generation.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

No one knows about the pricing. The new view of the controller is nice though!

 

[fvng]

The New PS EYE better be 720p at least, if its the old one ill never plug it in

 

[kingocfs]

I already control my 360 with my phone and it sucks.

And who didn't expect Sony to charge for online? PS+ in it's current form is set up to collect users and let them get invested in the ecosystem. Then they start putting shit behind the pay wall, as any company would.

 

[braves01]

At that price ($529 sans games or PS+) might as well just go all out and make a new pc.

 

[DaBoss]

"Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus."

hmm

Ohohohoh. This isn't good news for us. Though the pricing is not good either. No one wants to buy the turd pack.

 

[SlowRevolution]

another new controller shot?

$400 max, Sony

 

[Wynnebeck]

It's probably way too soon for anyone outside of Sony to have accurate pricing. I'm sure those numbers are still in flux at Sony itself.

However, if true, the "THERE'S NO WAY IT WILL COST MORE THAN $400" crowd will be eating serious. crow.

How can they be eating crow when no one is saying this? Most people are saying if Sony hits the $400 price point, they would be willing to get one. Might want to throttle back on the "eat crow" brah.

 

[Hato-kun]

Yes you will.

So true. I love seeing GAF overreact.

 

[Gahiggidy]

So... you will log into the console to check activity? (like remote desktop) As apposed to how the Wii U will work, logging into Miiverse outside and separate from the console?

 

[PaulLFC]

Replacing the awesome PS+ with an XBL-like subscription would be a horrible idea. Don't do it Sony.

 

[diamount]

That better be the date for EU too.

Hopefully, I know rumours say otherwise but the Vita was a simultaneous release (NA/EU) anyhow.

 

[Soi-Fong]

If basic online play/friends/chat isn't locked behind a pay wall I have no qualms about the bells and whistles.

This is basically what I'm saying. Sony were the ones who showed off free online gaming in the 1st place.

Hope to heck Kotaku is wrong on this.

 

[Brinbe]

weird pricing

 

[JustAnotherOtaku]

Here's betting we have to bend over in Europe and take a higher price and 2014 release.

 

[Baconsammy]

Ugh, Sony don't fuck this up.
Pay to play online is bullshit.
Also those triggers don't look so good.
But hey, prototype and all.

Agreed about the triggers. Bad. Hopefully there's more of a lip on the bottom of them in the final version.

529 dollars for any version of the console is just dumb.

 

[dancrane212]

our source says that every PS4 will come with a PlayStation Eye; that a new spectating feature will let you watch other friends play games from your console's dashboard, even when you don't own the game they're playing; and that the console will support local network play via Vita.

That's a start. I'd love to see some kind of streaming setup from PS4 -> Vita, fingers crossed for tomorrow.

 

[Squire]

I'm cool with all of this.

Sub makes sense. I'm actually glad Sony decided to go for a subscription.

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Damn, that new DS4 shot is sexy!

 

[Zen_Arcade]

if they do, and microsoft continues to (don't see that changing) then I'm just spending the money I would on a new console to upgrade my PC for next gen.

Same. A huge reason I was buying a PS4 at launch was so I didn't have to pay for online. I might still get one down the line for Sony exclusives but I'm done paying for online.

Unless it also gets me crazy discounts, which could make it worth it.

 

[Kun Aguero]

What's that on the side of the controller?

 

[LowEndTorque]

If they lock Netflix and basic online play behind a pay wall I'm going to be pissed. If they do that AND the subscription no longer includes free games like PS+ I might go PC only.

 

[Kyon]

Guys.... The conference is tomorrow for gods sakes lmao we don't know anything yet -___-

 

[Totobeni]

Who put a fluorescent lamp on the controller?

also the triggers look weird.

$429/529

too much, see you in 6 years,Sony.

 

[Penguins&PolarBears]

Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus

So they're ripping off Xbox Live and Xbox SmartGlass. Interested in seeing where they take the ideas, but Sony really needs to learn to blaze it's own trail once in a while or they will perpetually be two steps behind.

 

[Guevara]

Don't fuck this up Sony.

 

[Iacobellis]

our source says that every PS4 will come with a PlayStation Eye; that a new spectating feature will let you watch other friends play games from your console's dashboard, even when you don't own the game they're playing; and that the console will support local network play via Vita.

Someone in another thread called this.

 

[Elginer]

Well, I guess that's that then. Sony is looking to make some money and 529 for the premium model sounds mighty damn expensive.

 

[EscoBlades]

Meltdowns imminent.

 

[Derrick01]

Microsoft makes a shit ton of money off from paid online gaming. Sony would be smart to touch that.

MS made the 360 brand cool through online gaming so people would pay it no matter what. Sony doesn't have that luxury.

 

[Dawg]

Online features are vague.

What if it's just an expanded ps+ (costs a little more, maybe) with party chat included etc, BUT playing online games remains free? I'd be okay with that.

We'll see though.

 

[KillerTravis]

I love that new controller, but lol if they are charging for online

 

[BearPawB]

Whoever expects them to not have an online sub is naive. But hopefully it keeps the free game features of ps+

 

[Pooya]

Orbis is also following the path first set by Xbox Live: our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use. Sony's new online service will be called PlayStation World, our source says, replacing PlayStation Plus

welp, not surprising though.

our source says that every PS4 will come with a PlayStation Eye; that a new spectating feature will let you watch other friends play games from your console's dashboard, even when you don't own the game they're playing; and that the console will support local network play via Vita.

so, is this like remote desktop access on PC? sounds neat.

 

[DaBoss]

How can they be eating crow when no one is saying this? Most people are saying if Sony hits the $400 price point, they would be willing to get one. Might want to throttle back on the "eat crow" brah.

There are some people claiming it won't go above $400 due to the specs not seeming that expensive to make the price go north of $400.

 

[Midou]

Will take anything with a grain of salt this close to full reveal. I don't see them charging for basic online play. Perhaps some features that exist now for free may be subscription, but I imagine core online play will remain free.

 

[WickedCobra03]

I am probably out if the console is going to be so expensive, be subsidized, all online is now subscription based and all games are tied directly to account/console. MS has disappointed me last gen, so I was hoping sony would pick up their slack. Maybe not.

 

[kassatsu]

our source says "most" of the PS4's online features will require a premium subscription to use.

Why. I hope IGN gives away a ton more PS+ codes.

 

[comedy bomb]

$429 for the turd pack, subscription for online, needs a phone/tablet? Welp, I'm out.

I doubt it requires a phone/tablet.


That being said everything else sounds like crap.

 

[FrankT]

Pretty important info that should be attached that title I'd say. Figured they would be going this route.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Online play will still be free. Cue 10 pages of people repeating this. It's PS+ and all the new stuff that will likely be continued sub.

 

[1-D_FTW]

Not loving the pricing, but I was expecting to be able to control the OS with a smartphone/tablet. Anything less would have been an insane oversight. They're here to stay and companies need to co-opt them whenever possible.

 

[kingocfs]

Why.

Because they want to make money?

 

[JABEE]

$429 for the turd pack, subscription for online, needs a phone/tablet? Welp, I'm out.

Where does it say that?

Also, Sony is going to regret it if they come out at $529. I can't believe that number would be true.