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[GeorgioCostanzaX]

I'm still enthused. Honestly provided cross play on the entire PS library is seamless and has great performance like the Wii U I'd prefer playing fully fledged titles rather than uninspired B-team efforts like Uncharted. Obviously I'd love original content too but the possibilities of this are much more interesting to me overall.

 

[McLovin]

Man nobody wanted to see vita games during that conference. It was the right move IMO, turning it into a Wii U controller and using gaikai to minimize latency was really smart. All I needed to know was that they weren't giving up on it, and they proved that to me. I'll definitely pick one up before ps4 launches. I mean they pretty much said everything will be playable on the thing.... EVERYTHING holy shit.

 

[Aquamarine]

Looking back at the segment, I think it is a bit ambiguous. He may well mean PS4/PSVita stuff. Just strange that he mentions talking about it 'later this year' when they went on to talk about that right there

What an interesting segment. A handheld is a device you can take anywhere. So "introducing the Vita to the living room" doesn't really make much sense unless it has something to do with the PS4.

"Vita has the potential" implies that there's some kind of technology that's not being utilized. Beyond remote play, perhaps he's referring to PS4 games with Vita functionality as part of the gameplay (make use of the screen for menus?)

It seems contingent on the "operating system and chipset inside Playstation Vita," so that's the only thing I can think of.

It was clear that yesterday's event was all about PS4. And where would you have put Vita content during this packed show?

"Packed show"? Give me a break. There was enormous amounts of filler that could have easily been cut out and replaced with Vita promotions.

 

[AniHawk]

i think the vita's about as dead as the wii u, and sony might see the writing on the wall, but they might give it one last shot starting at e3. new hardware, connectivity with ps4 (maybe its hype can rub off), and a price drop or better value per unit, alongside new software being announced.

if that fails to ignite anything, then the vita won't be supported beyond 2014 in any major capacity.

 

[Mael]

So is this an admission that you're just trolling? A Japan-only webcast that was announced, and happened on the same day is no where near Nintendo's struggles with Wii U's identity with the mainstream public. Nor do I think it's Sony's responsibility to correct hundreds of video game websites who just repost stuff from GAF.

If Sony PR sees the web being flooded by news about how some event is mislabelled it's their responsability to make sure this doesn't damage them in any way.
That's what Public Relation is after all.
This playstation future event was clearly a US only even considering the timeframe of when it was happening (seriously midnight?), yet you'll see plenty of reports everywhere about this event in places far from the US.
If Sony PR can't handle Public Relations what the hell are they're being paid for?

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

I was hoping they would announce things, but that thread posted above kept my expectations in check. Glad they covered the remote play atleast, I hope its an OS level remote play.

 

[Glass Rebel]

Official name of the event was "Vita (, leave luck to) Heaven".

Streaming looked choppy as all hell, let's see if they can improve it.

 

[Ruud_Luiten]

I'm going Vita and 3DS only this gen and it will be awesome.
Vita has enough releases and a enormous support from indie-devs so it won't feel lonely.
3DS delivers the best Nintendo games, so I'm pretty happy.

Vita will survive: Sony will push it as portable streaming PS4 console AND luxurious Playstation Mobile device.

 

[vivftp]

Vita is clearly NOT present time considering how much weight Sony is putting behind.



Same way psp games play ps1 games or Vita play ps1/ps2 games I'd say.



Like yesterday night?
It was labelled Playstation future after all not Playstation home console boogaloo.

Seriously, and I don't intend to be mean but I want to go to bed and am tired of sugarcoating it. You're being an idiot here. You are either trolling or are too caught up in Vita hate, but either way your postings show that you don't care to see the blatently obvious truth that this ONE, SINGLE event was not meant to showcase the Vita at all. Keep arguing or trolling or whatevering you're doing… no use in going around in circles here.

How you can say the Vita is not "present time" boggles my mind. We didn't get sucked into a time warp dude, the Vita is out and has been out a while… that means it falls under the category of present time. The PS4 has had no official reveal before today and is not out. Therefore it is the future. Not a very hard concept to grasp.

 

[gofreak]

from the press release:

I read that last night and got the impression that devs will have to tune controls for Vita before remote play will be enabled for the title - perhaps. I think it'll be 'free' to the game from a resource POV but will require some hand tuning on the control side.

 

[Frodo]

As far as I'm concerned they could never release a game for it again. That conference last night convinced me to buy one.My number 1, absolutely beast feature about the Wii U...is off tv play. I will buy a Vita for this feature, it is so valuable to me. My Off tv gamepad for my ps4, that can double as a bedroom/before sleep device with it's own original games. It actual makes the console more valuable to me, and eases the lack of games or memory. don't ge tme wrong, I'll wait til this summer for that price cut, or at least the lowest price it goes to, but I'll be buying one of these now. I don't think they killed it alst night, they made it worth buying.

Obviously, for the people who (quite fairly) bought one with the expectation of a steady flow of portable games, you have right to be disappointed, I do appreciate that. I just love this for myself.

Wouldn't it be fun if in the end Wii U saves the Vita?

OT: Does Sony really think they can wait until E3 to turn the Vita around? Specially when they are about to launch their new console and all attention will be focused on the PS4. It does seem like they just can't be bothered with the Vita... :~

 

[Suirrad]

Streaming my PS4 games to the vita to play in another room (like the WiiU) sounds great to me. I will use this feature for sure.

.

 

[PapaJustify]

"Packed show"? Give me a break. There was enormous amounts of filler that could have easily been cut out and replaced with Vita promotions.

And taking the momentum of the PS4 announcement? And I didn't see many fillers. Maybe House talked a bit too much in the start, but otherwise you got a good conference in my eyes that didn't leave much room for much else.

 

[Takao]

If Sony PR sees the web being flooded by news about how some event is mislabelled it's their responsability to make sure this doesn't damage them in any way.
That's what Public Relation is after all.
This playstation future event was clearly a US only even considering the timeframe of when it was happening (seriously midnight?), yet you'll see plenty of reports everywhere about this event in places far from the US.
If Sony PR can't handle Public Relations what the hell are they're being paid for?

The PS4's unveiling was indeed done in New York, but did you know that both SCEE and SCEJ made teaser pages, reposted the hype videos, etc.? That was a global oriented event, and thus Sony played global PR. Did you know that SCEE and SCEA didn't acknowledge the existence of that Vita event at all? This was a Japan-only event that the English speaking Sony divisions probably weren't even aware of. If anything, this should be another one of those "LOL Game Journalism" issues because the SCEJ page said nothing about it being a Game Heaven.

 

[Aquamarine]

And taking the momentum of the PS4 announcement? And I didn't see many fillers. Maybe House talked a bit too much in the start, but otherwise you got a good conference in my eyes that didn't leave much room for much else.

1. Synergy

2. Showcasing the indie game "The Witness" for WAY too long

3. Retrospectives

4. Square Enix CGI troll

5. Media Molecule's Wii Music 2 bonanza "We don't actually have a game lol"

6. Quantic Dream's Old Man Head

^ Filler.

 

[Foffy]

It's clear from the conference that Sony truly just doesn't give a shit.

When they were talking about PS Cloud, they're making it on other devices. Sharing? Other devices. Spectating? Other devices.

What can the Vita do? It can remote play PS4 games. It's been delegated as a Wii U controller and nothing else.

I wouldn't be surprised if they rebranded it as a peripheral of sorts.

I like how the Vita was named after other devices. Like "oh, Vita does it too, we guess..."

 

[DocSeuss]

I remember their E3 last year

Talked about it for 5 minutes and never said another word

WONDERBOOOOK

WHAT IS THE SECRET OF YOUR POOOWERRRRR...

Oh, wrong... yeah, whatever.

 

[?oe?oe]

That's one expensive controller.

 

[big youth]

i think the vita's about as dead as the wii u

so...not dead at all? you either forget how abysmal Vita sales are, or you think Nintendo is lying about Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda, DQX, Bayonetta 2, X, Wii Fit, etc

Sony has proven time and time again that they aren't serious about Vita. they can't even seem to convince their own developers to make games for it. I continue to think they will quietly discontinue it early 2014

 

[Takao]

I expected nothing for Vita last night, so I wasn't disappointed on that front. I pretty much expected the Vita stream from SCEJ to just highlight recent releases, since I knew they weren't going to announce a big game on a stream they announced hours before hand. I was still kind of disappointed that the only thing new from that came a teaser for Dangan Ronpa 3. I was hoping we'd see a new Game Arts game, or a smaller SCE Japan Studio title. But I guess those announcements wouldn't have changed how people felt about that.

 

[Bumhead]

As a stand alone, mass market commercial games console, the Vita is dead.

Sony have however done the smart thing in leveraging the hardware (which is lovely) for the PS4. Remote play being a system level feature is something im reasonably interested in.

I wouldn't buy a Vita as a handheld gaming console, but if priced/bundled right and if the execution of remote play matches the theory, id strongly consider a Vita for the PS4 functionality.

 

[encephalon]

The announcement on the 18th was hardly another "Vita Heaven." It was a price drop announcement with some upcoming games shown afterward.

That being said, the future of the Vita does look pretty bleak.

 

[clay_ghost]

The PS4's unveiling was indeed done in New York, but did you know that both SCEE and SCEJ made teaser pages, reposted the hype videos, etc.? That was a global oriented event, and thus Sony played global PR. Did you know that SCEE and SCEA didn't acknowledge the existence of that Vita event at all? This was a Japan-only event that the English speaking Sony divisions probably weren't even aware of. If anything, this should be another one of those "LOL Game Journalism" issues because the SCEJ page said nothing about it being a Game Heaven.

True but this make me worry more as SECc and SECA have no new news regarding vita outside of remote play. Remote play is great but only useful only when you have the device already....
Let hope that E3 will bring some games.... New RPG that is not a monhunt clone will be great. Gravity rush 2 and patapon vita too please.

 

[AniHawk]

so...not dead at all? you either forget how abysmal Vita sales are, or you think Nintendo is lying about Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda, DQX, Bayonetta 2, X, Wii Fit, etc

i am not expecting those games to affect the fortune of the console in a big way. at best, they'll take the system from vita/dreamcast levels to gamecube/xbox levels.

Sony has proven time and time again that they aren't serious about Vita. they can't even seem to convince their own developers to make games for it. I continue to think they will quietly discontinue it early 2014

i think this will be the case, but only after they give it one last push so no one could say they didn't give it the ol' college try.

 

[Aquamarine]

True but this make me worry more as SECc and SECA have no new news regarding vita outside of remote play. Remote play is great but only useful only when you have the device already....
Let hope that E3 will bring some games.... New RPG that is not a monhunt clone will be great. Gravity rush 2 and patapon vita too please.

What if the Vita-exclusive nature of the Remote Play feature is to appease angry Vita owners in case Sony discontinues the Vita at the end of FY 14 (March 2014)?

 

[PapaJustify]

1. Synergy

2. Showcasing the indie game "The Witness" for WAY too long

3. Retrospectives

4. Square Enix CGI troll

5. Media Molecule's Wii Music 2 bonanza "We don't actually have a game lol"

6. Quantic Dream's Old Man Head

^ Filler.

Ok, showing tech demos at a console announcement is not OK anymore? I must be too oldschool. Square Enix showing the Agni's demo again - yeah OK, but the message was clear that Sony wanted to show that the 3rd party support IS there, and SE wanted to show that Agni's is running on the PS4 without a hassle.

I just think that showing Vita games that was clearly dedicated to the PS4 would not have been a great fit.

 

[Hanmik]

1. Synergy

2. Showcasing the indie game "The Witness" for WAY too long

3. Retrospectives

4. Square Enix CGI troll

5. Media Molecule's Wii Music 2 bonanza "We don't actually have a game lol"

6. Quantic Dream's Old Man Head

^ Filler.

it was to show what PS4 is capable of. Tech demos are the best way to show this. And they showed that the PS4 was an open platform for Indies with Witness .. it may seem like filler to you, but to Sony this was Vital information about the PS4, Vita announcements would not be good for a PS4 show..

 

[Lord Ghirahim]

I don't think I'll be buying another Sony handheld before it drops to €100/¥10k, unless it has a game I really need to play early on.

 

[MegaKungFuRadio]

This conference probably sold at least a few Vitas but not for a reason that will save it. It'll probably be $150 soon enough anyway, considering the $180 Assassin's Creed bundle last November.

 

[DR2K]

it's done. buy a 3ds if you want a dedicated gaming handheld with actual games

ps4 is sony's focus and that's the way it should be

My Vita has these weird things called games. They're quite fun.

 

[Mael]

Seriously, and I don't intend to be mean but I want to go to bed and am tired of sugarcoating it. You're being an idiot here. You are either trolling or are too caught up in Vita hate, but either way your postings show that you don't care to see the blatently obvious truth that this ONE, SINGLE event was not meant to showcase the Vita at all. Keep arguing or trolling or whatevering you're doing… no use in going around in circles here.

How you can say the Vita is not "present time" boggles my mind. We didn't get sucked into a time warp dude, the Vita is out and has been out a while… that means it falls under the category of present time. The PS4 has had no official reveal before today and is not out. Therefore it is the future. Not a very hard concept to grasp.

By that logic PSP is still the present of the playstation product and we all know what that entails.

The PS4's unveiling was indeed done in New York, but did you know that both SCEE and SCEJ made teaser pages, reposted the hype videos, etc.? That was a global oriented event, and thus Sony played global PR.

And as they should, they handled it competently.
They didn't have any choice in the matter considering that all the media was streaming the event anyway.
Kinda like e3 really, it's an US event yet it's still PR for the whole world to see.

Did you know that SCEE and SCEA didn't acknowledge the existence of that Vita event at all? This was a Japan-only event that the English speaking Sony divisions probably weren't even aware of. If anything, this should be another one of those "LOL Game Journalism" issues because the SCEJ page said nothing about it being a Game Heaven.

In a global world, that doesn't exactly work like that.
Why do you think we get Media Creates stuffs in western publication anyway?
SCEE and SCEA should have at least commented on the event instead of acting like Vita didn't exists anyway.
Because something happens on the other side of the world doesn't mean that doesn't concern every part of the company.

 

[SmokyDave]

SCEE and SCEA should have at least commented on the event instead of acting like Vita didn't exists anyway.
Because something happens on the other side of the world doesn't mean that doesn't concern every part of the company.

It was a Japanese event unveiling new Japanese bundles, announcing a Japanese price-cut and showing the imminent Japanese line-up.

 

[DiscoJer]

My Vita has these weird things called games. They're quite fun.

And Night Ranger has a Greatest Hits cd with 12 songs on it.

But most people probably won't find all those songs to be great, only the most hardcore Night Ranger fans will.

And I might point out, it doesn't have games in the biggest genres in the West that are good. You know, like FPS? It had a terrible game in a very popular franchise, and an below average in a very unpopular franchise.

PS4 apparently gets Diablo III. The Vita? It has a Gameloft clone of one, only $30 more than the iOS version. Why couldn't Sony spring a deal to get Diablo III on the Vita? That's a killer app

 

[Aquamarine]

it was to show what PS4 is capable of. Tech demos are the best way to show this. And they showed that the PS4 was an open platform for Indies with Witness .. it may seem like filler to you, but to Sony this was Vital information about the PS4, Vita announcements would not be good for a PS4 show..

Okay then, let me define something that was more clearly filler: Cage yammering on about emotion, a video asking the developers about what the potential of PS4 means for them, comparing video games to silent films, lots and lots of buzzwords, a large showcasing of a pretentious indie game when the whole point (self-publishing) could have taken 30 seconds, Media Molecule blabbering about 'The tyranny of the polygon," etc.

That is all clearly defined filler.

I would have liked to see the tech demos applied to actual video games, like a scene or an event inside of that game.

 

[feint_ruled]

It's like people here saw a different show. They started off talking about the Vita, showed a PS4 game playing on the Vita, said that ALL PS4 games will be playable on Vita using Gaikai tech, and talked about how the Vita was key to their plans.

If anything, that shows that Vita's future is secure for at least another year.

 

[Mael]

It was a Japanese event unveiling new Japanese bundles, announcing a Japanese price-cut and showing the imminent Japanese line-up.

And when someone from PR at SCEE/A saw that wasn't how it was reported by some publication they should have contacted them instead of letting that fly.
It's their job as part of the PR team.

It's like people here saw a different show. They started off talking about the Vita, showed a PS4 game playing on the Vita, said that ALL PS4 games will be playable on Vita using Gaikai tech, and talked about how the Vita was key to their plans.

If anything, that shows that Vita's future is secure for at least another year.

as a ps4 peripheral? sure.

 

[clay_ghost]

What if the Vita-exclusive nature of the Remote Play feature is to appease angry Vita owners in case Sony discontinues the Vita at the end of FY 14 (March 2014)?

Frankly I buy the vita knowing full well the risk and that there are little great game coming out. Also its on sales and i had my bonus. I think its a nice system to play some good game now and then, i was and still am hopeing that it will be like gamecube where great game comes out once in a while. I will play all the great 3ds games in the time whew vita have no games i want 3ds will be the next DS the real current gen winner!

I think i will only choose one nextgen system,most likely a wiiu for the games that are shown to me now. Let look forward to E3, ps4 or nwxtbox still have a chance with me

 

[sechsterangriff]

Vita is dead? Give me a break.
With a price drop, the remote play feature alone will be a great reason to get one even if people only plan to use it just as a controller around the house or to play at work.
Also they're obviously going to evolve the system firmware tremendously do accommodate this and all the social networking integration they're planing.
If they decide to turn it into a full standalone Gaikai supported device, it will be even greater value.
This will definitely help to sell some Vitas. And with more systems out there, the more appealing it becomes to developers and publishers.
The Vita isn't going anywhere.

 

[Father_Brain]

Vita news last night was pretty much exactly what I had expected. Doesn't prove the thing is "dead" any more than other recent news (or lack thereof); maybe there'll be some more game announcements from Destination PlayStation in a few days.

That said, I have to LOL at the notion of PS4 remote play being any kind of killer app for Vita. Portable device + feature requiring continuous physical proximity to a high-bandwidth, low-latency Wi-Fi connection = value add at best.

 

[SmokyDave]

And when someone from PR at SCEE/A saw that wasn't how it was reported by some publication they should have contacted them instead of letting that fly.
It's their job as part of the PR team.

By 'reported', do you mean the title of the GAF thread?

 

[clay_ghost]

It was a Japanese event unveiling new Japanese bundles, announcing a Japanese price-cut and showing the imminent Japanese line-up.

I think we just want then to talk more about Vita , I do belive the price drop is coming was hopeing that this event will spent 5 mins talking about it :S

With the pricedrop I think it can sell more....

 

[Mael]

By 'reported', do you mean the title of the GAF thread?

Not really, no
To be more clear I too think that that gaf thread was ill advised, I'm not denying that at all (and don't expect anyone to respond to that anyway)

 

[Hanmik]

Okay then, let me define something that was more clearly filler: Cage yammering on about emotion, a video asking the developers about what the potential of PS4 means for them, comparing video games to silent films, lots and lots of buzzwords, a large showcasing of a pretentious indie game when the whole point (self-publishing) could have taken 30 seconds, Media Molecule blabbering about 'The tyranny of the polygon," etc.

That is all clearly defined filler.

I would have liked to see the tech demos applied to actual video games, like a scene or an event inside of that game.

I don´t think you get the "intention" of this event. Yes it was for the Public, BUT it was also for the developers and other people. The stuff you are mentioning might seem boring to you, but to a developer and others this stuff might open their eyes to the PS4.

The Meeting yesterday was never to be about anything else than the PS4 - it´s as simple as that.

 

[ShirAhava]

Got 15 games to buy for my vita day one this year...life is good. Sales are whatever. I don't care but the hardware is great, the games are awesome and plentiful. I cannot complain.

 

[doniewhalberg]

Wouldn't it be fun if in the end Wii U saves the Vita?

Definitely. After having Off tv play as an option with the Wii U, I already wish my ps360 could do it too. Sony has a device that with a price cut is in a position to do that, and be an on the go portable device with original software. I'm not even talking about streaming ps4 games when you're out and about. If I can stream ps4 games in my living room, and play the vita's own games elsewhere, I'll buy this thing. I'll hold off til e3 to see if there's a price cut/remodel to add triggers for (even) easier ps4 emulation and then I'm buying one.

If half this thing's purpose going forth is as a controller for the ps4, then it helps justify how far and few between the original titles might be for the next year until ps4 is out and Sony gets a look at sales.

 

[The Mana Legend]

Sony cares so damn little about the Vita and its awful library and sales show. They are showing no signs of correcting it either.

 

[DR2K]

And Night Ranger has a Greatest Hits cd with 12 songs on it.

But most people probably won't find all those songs to be great, only the most hardcore Night Ranger fans will.

And I might point out, it doesn't have games in the biggest genres in the West that are good. You know, like FPS? It had a terrible game in a very popular franchise, and an below average in a very unpopular franchise.

PS4 apparently gets Diablo III. The Vita? It has a Gameloft clone of one, only $30 more than the iOS version. Why couldn't Sony spring a deal to get Diablo III on the Vita? That's a killer app

Vita has great games from almost every genre though.

Racer
Need For Speed
Sonic
Wipeout

RPG
Persona 4
Disgaea 3

Action/Adventure
Gravity Rush
Uncharted
Ninja Gaiden
AssCreed3

Platformer
LBP
Sly
Rayman Origins

Fighter
UMVC3
SFxT
Blazblue
Playstation Allstars
MK

FPS
Resistance
Unit 13

Etc. . . A Variety of exclusives and multiplatform games.

 

[Mael]

List wars.

We're at list wars time already?
And please don't pad your list with fluff (you had the decency to not put that horrible CoD game in and I command you for that.)

 

[Gokurakumaru]

Vita has great games from almost every genre though.

Racer
Need For Speed
Sonic
Wipeout

RPG
Persona 4
Disgaea 3

Action/Adventure
Gravity Rush
Uncharted
Ninja Gaiden
AssCreed3

Platformer
LBP
Sly
Rayman Origins

Fighter
UMVC3
SFxT
Blazblue
Playstation Allstars
MK

FPS
Resistance
Unit 13

Etc. . . A Variety of exclusives and multiplatform games.

Entire genres without exclusives though, namely RPGs and fighters. That's got to hurt the appeal a bit. I have a couple of ports on the Vita, but I wouldn't have bought the device for them.

 

[clay_ghost]

Vita has great games from almost every genre though.





Etc. . . A Variety of exclusives and multiplatform games.

I lasted playing exclusive till now but now I have no games I want to play on vita =( hopeing that the future will bring more game Let hope that vita will be more like game cube and have great game once in a while pro tip get a 3ds too , I belive It furture will be like the ds which is better than the last gen home console combined imo.