Yeah, if anything it makes me worried that it will further set back gun control legislation.
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Yeah, if anything it makes me worried that it will further set back gun control legislation.
Basically LAPD didn't follow much protocol...they were shooting at civilian vehicles before getting visual confirmation of what exactly they were shooting at.
Good point. Makes no sense :lol
So much weird bullshit any time a public tragedy like this takes place. I know I shouldn't be surprised by that at this point, but it never ceases to amaze me when I see it.
xXxDieselxXx
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Thank You!
reggieandTFE
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Speech has always been limited in the US as well. Look up Eugene Devs when you get a chance.
statham
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I can see this in a Ben Stiller/Steve Carell movie. This guy is going to be on the internet for years.
Oh fuck, I saw this earlier on my phone, but did not realize that the gate effortlessly swings open as he lets go. Amazing :lol
Winterfang
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And then the other FBI agent just walk all casually into it. It's the perfect GIF.
soxinthebox
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9/10 would read again
Explosives didn't kill and wound cops and it looks like they were heavily armed with guns. Which could have been used the day they set off the bombs had they cared less for their own lives.
TTOOLL
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The conspiracy theories don't really fit with this one at all. The fact that the bombers were Muslim immigrants who used homemade bombs is terrible politically for this administration. It doesn't do anything for gun control and it means that immigration legislation, previously in good shape, is now in peril. Also, the fact that they allowed him to be captured alive nullifies any 'patsy' claims.
The conspiracy theorists were just latching onto the possibility that the bomber was going to be a Tea Partier and are doubling down on the crazy now that the evidence contradicts their claims.
What? You want there to be crimes with guns to encourage gun control?
legacyzero
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No, I want there to be fewer crimes so that people don't feel the need to own guns.
I don't see this blowing back at all politically on the administration honestly. While Muslim, they were also Caucasian, literally. And more importantly, United States citizens.
It also doesn't change anything on immigration. They weren't Mexican and Republicans will never stand a chance at claiming the presidency if they continue their obstruction on the issue.(though you could argue they are fucked either way)
Winterfang
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This really is the picture that matters most, and it's the one people should be posting instead of the suspects.
This picture just goes to show you for varied the people in the USA are. While their families will never recover, I hope they are at least at peace with the perpetrator caught.
Did he accidentaly unlock the hatch with his foot?!?
2/3 white? That's actually pretty close to the real number.
Maybe I was a bit overboard with 'terrible', but it doesn't help any administration aims and if anything hinders them. I do think you're wrong about immigration. Conservatives will definitely use this as a talking point to badmouth immigration reform. It might not sink the bill, but I wouldn't be surprised if it weakened Republican support for it.
Winterfang
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White can be varied, you have your Scottish, your Spaniards, Asians, people from Northern states etc...
Holy shit I came here to post this hahahah
Fair enough. I guess I don't give much thought to diversity within the "white" demographic, since I'm just so used to seeing it.
LQX
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The best part is how he does not notice it opening and walks away with no fucks given.
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JaseMath
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My favorite has the JFK Library fire being directly tied to the attack...and the perp being none other than *dun dun dun* the son of Osama Bin Laden.
Funky Papa
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Fair enough. It was still pretty contained, tho.
Yeah, that's what I was wondering. That or all he had to do was push the gate open.
I saw the interview with Ruslan on The Today Show. I feel that we're quite fortunate to have someone who is so honest about the radicalization of these two suspects. It is quite different from what we see here in Indonesia when radical Muslims decide to kill innocent civilians. Their friends and family will almost never admit the simple fact that they were radicalized, choosing instead to believe in some insane conspiracy even in spite of often overwhelming evidence that they were followers of radical imams.
Lasthope106
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Beautiful post.
HerbertFish
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Yeah there was one of two of them together. Looked like same tim as security camera shot, except pic was from the other side of street.
Maybe it wasn't accidental, and the 'scale a fence while kicking open the latch' trick is part of FBI training.
Yeah I saw that one...was just curious if there were more that were incriminating.
I have a theory that he was at the very least heavily influenced/brainwashed by his brother and perhaps even thought/was convinced that the bag he was dropping had something other than a bomb in it, say drugs. Which would explain the tweets after the bombing and why he appears to have gone on living his life in the days following. He may have only found out what he had really done when the photos were released by the FBI.
I realize that's relatively unlikely and I don't expect it to be the truth, but all accounts of this kid by those who knew him don't paint the portrait of a terrorist. So I think the idea that he was duped by his brother or even others, could ring true.
Or I could be completely off base and he's a classic case. I guess we'll see.
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"Ladies and gentlemen...
...I give you the F...B...I..."
*bursts out laughing*
Perfect.
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YouEnjoyMySelf
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The FBI agent in the jacket clearly pushes the gate open.
Physics, how do they work?
Will be interesting to see what info comes out of this investigation. Anyone who thinks this was planned by the Gov. needs serious mental help. I'm not too fond of them.. but really?
Physics, how do they work?
Will be interesting to see what info comes out of this investigation. Anyone who thinks this was planned by the Gov. needs serious mental help. I'm not too fond of them.. but really?
Bad influences and a messed-up worldview can make people do horrible things. Part of me hopes the kid comes to his senses because he seems like he would have been normal aside from corrupting forces, just based on what I felt from reading his Twitter history.
Funky Papa
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Some of the terrorists behind the 11S and the Madrid train bombings were pretty sleazy guys. Then, at some point in their empty lives (I think this is the most important part), some charismatic figure shows up and turns them forever.
Miles Quaritch
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It's certainly interesting. I wonder if he was either brainwashed by his older, more radicalised brother (if the reports are accurate) or felt pressured into it by said brother.
His actions seem somewhat odd for a radicalised individual, allowing his capture when his brother reportedly had a suicide vest, abandoning his brother, etc. All suggests (although it may be too early to speculate with any certainty) that he isn't actually radicalised as his brother allegedly may have been.
There's a photo of him walking off quietly after the bomb went off. He knew what he was doing.
edit: this one:
Exactly. Europe spent centuries fighting each other (and they were all white). Dismissing that and saying the US is homogenous because everyone is white kind of lets other countries off hook. Most of those white people (that make up the majority) came to the US to avoid horrible oppression in their old countries.
For all the hate the US gets, and it's certainly not perfect by any imagination, no other country has been a melting pot like this. It's FAR from perfect, but it's still a better example than any other country.
No he doesn't, watch the YouTube video of it.
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