ChrisG isn't a comedian. He isn't making a political statement on the meaning of the word. He's using it in a derogatory way that is intended to hurt someone.But this guy just defended Louis CK for using it. When Louis CK's whole bit was how when he uses the word "faggot" he doesn't use it as a derogatory term for homosexuals. How does Louis CK get a free pass for using it the exact same way Chris G used it?
Yep. Hah.I'm going back for my 3rd whiskey & coke so we're probably gonna be in trouble pretty soon here.
Oop, here we go. I might be in trouble here, except for the fact that I TOTALLY READ WHAT I WAS QUOTING, AND YEAH. YOU CAN'T JUST THROW THAT WORD OUT THERE. That sort of language is not acceptable. It's like calling someone a nigger, and I certainly wouldn't do that. I don't even want to type that word.I don't think you understand the context in which I responded to you, feel free to read the quote above that you quoted earlier.
If that person is cool with you using the word with them then that's fine just understand others may not be. It's very simple'Nigga' is Black for 'Dude' or 'Man' from what I can tell.
Why can I not refer to a Black person as 'My nigga."?
I feel like the world is a dumber place for this to seriously be questioned.
Louis CK is a stand-up comedian who went OUT OF HIS GODDAMN WAY to qualify that he wasn't using the slur that way. It had levels, it was satire and was meant to evoke quirks of language.
If he seriously just pulled up and called somebody who was trolling him a "faggot" on twitter, with no clear sarcasm, humor or reference, he would be all over TMZ, dragged through the mud for days and probably lose out on job opportunities and money.
'Nigga' is Black for 'Dude' or 'Man' from what I can tell.
Why can I not refer to a Black person as 'My nigga."?
Oh god I love you Koogy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vj2iQSeboABut this guy just defended Louis CK for using it. When Louis CK's whole bit was how when he uses the word "faggot" he doesn't use it as a derogatory term for homosexuals. How does Louis CK get a free pass for using it the exact same way Chris G used it?
I'm not sure how much societal privilege Indians have in USA.Questions like the above are essentially examples of people wondering why their societal privilege doesn't extend as far as they think it should.
Louis CK's whole bit was about when he says that word he doesn't actually mean any harm to homosexuals. To him it's just a word. How do you not know that the same is for ChrisG?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vj2iQSeboA
Louis CK's bit works because of the 6 minutes of set-up, context, and explanation. It's a thoughtful deconstruction of language explicitly intended for comedic purposes.
If you want to say that that's using it in "the exact same way" as offhandedly calling somebody a faggot in an argument, then I don't even know where to begin.
because he used it as an attack on someone, he could of used:
Asshole
Prick
Cunt
Cocksucker
Duckhead
all before the word he used.
Louis CK's whole bit was about when he says that word he doesn't actually mean any harm to homosexuals. To him it's just a word. How do you not know that the same is for ChrisG?
Oh jesus. His setup is in the standup, do you think he does that setup when he actually says that word outside of his standup? Or do you think he goes through that bit everytime?
'Nigga' is Black for 'Dude' or 'Man' from what I can tell.
Why can I not refer to a Black person as 'My nigga."?
Do you think he uses that word in his everyday life, seriously?
I'm not sure how much societal privilege Indians have in USA.
you can - if you know that black person and they don't mind you using it.
If you don't? It's gonna be a different sorta situation.
Questions like the above are essentially examples of people wondering why their societal privilege doesn't extend as far as they think it should.
Have you seen Louis CK call somebody a faggot in a public argument and not as part of a comedy routine?Oh jesus. His setup is in the standup, do you think he does that setup when he actually says that word outside of his standup? Or do you think he goes through that bit everytime?
YES. That was his whole point!
A lot of black people are ok with Poc using the word depending on the context of courseI'm not sure how much societal privilege Indians have in USA.
Poor Wizard. His tweet was great but congratulating yourself on a good tweet is like laughing at your own jokes.Pretty sure I saw this on the stream chat as things were going down: "I think I just won the internet" - Mr Wizard.
Have you seen Louis CK call somebody a faggot in public and not as part of a comedy routine?
Yeah i dont subscribe to that crap, sorry. The example you used of words having a different between you and your is valid only because the two people involved actually do share a connection for the context at which the word is used. This does not apply to an entire ethnicity or group though, and to suggest it does is insulting. Not every black person has the same relationship with the word "nigger". Not every black person even shares that type of history with the word. Why do black people today have even have a personal relationship with a word whose context they have not even experienced? Why do white people today have to be wary of using a word because of connotations they have had nothing to do with?You have to be kidding me. The relationships between the people using the words actually give meaning to the words used. For example lets say you're fond of calling your significant other "sweet thang" and that's something endearing between the two of you. Lets say some random stranger probably hitting on your significant other addresses them as "sweet thang" wouldn't you feel some kinda way about that? The same goes for the n-word; Black Americans have a different relationship with the word than white people do. You can also say the word as much as you like just be prepared to accept the responsibility that comes with using it.
Its almost like Louis CK gives people an excuse to be dull.
Poor Wizard. His tweet was great but congratulating yourself on a good tweet is like laughing at your own jokes.
'Nigga' is Black for 'Dude' or 'Man' from what I can tell.
Why can I not refer to a Black person as 'My nigga."?
So you can only say it if you around the person who gave you permission. What happens if not everyone agrees to it.
He said that after Chris G responded.
Don't use it? Or use it and accept its consequences.So you can only say it if you around the person who gave you permission. What happens if not everyone agrees to it.
Funny that Booker's the one who got offended.I dunno about that, but you can always call a white person "my nigga".Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov1LWYWBaZ4
So he got the response he wanted
So he just suddenly starts using language in his standup he never uses and defends it in his standup?
Most standup is built from people's own life experience.
Do you really not know the answers to these questions, or are you trying to catch me in some sort of fallacy trap or some shit?
If not everyone agrees to it, there's going to be some sort of confrontation, probably. Maybe it's as light as "dude - could you not say that?" or even lighter, just quiet discomfort and distancing. Maybe it's "What the fuck, man." Or maybe it's "WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY."
Things don't happen in a fucking vaccum. There's a context that needs to be taken into account, and people generally understand that on SOME level, whether they prefer it that way or not.
Kind of he wanted to see Chris get all upset he sure as hell wasnt hoping for him to use a slur against him.
By your logic, George Carlin thought Terrorism was fun and enjoyed watching people get blown up.
Louis CK said:Faggot didnt mean gay when I was a kid, you called somebody a faggot because they were being a faggot. [...] I would never call a gay guy a faggot, unless he was being a faggot, but not because hes gay.
Uh huh. I'm sure none of his stories about his family are embellished, either.So he just suddenly starts using language in his standup he never uses and defends it in his standup?
Most standup is built from people's own life experience.
Things have been running pretty well.Hope you guys enjoyed the stream today.We'll be working hard to ensure finals day is a great event great experience!
Pretty much.Because ChrisG is a humorless prat, who was pissed off to begin with, who was responding to a man who was flat calling him a cry-baby on twitter.
It was an insult. I mean... this is some high-level denial here.
Even if he does, among friends, he's a professional and shouldn't use it in a professional atmosphere. Come on.YES. That was his whole point!
Also, yeah, this.I guarantee you he doesn't.
You're failing lots of common sense tests today, Ferrio.
All of these things. Fuck, I'm going to make myself another G&T and pass out. The fact that any of you are defending this bullshit is ridiculous. The intent should be obvious.basically Chris G shouldn't have said what he said. Shit isn't appropriate in any other gaming community at a public level (exception would be COD I guess), so why would it be ok here?
Yes Fchamp has said that to people as well, and he know its a bad word and in some weird way attempt to use it a lot less. He knows he is sponsors and has to do things differently. Why does Chris G not know this? Especially to an EVO TO?
Can you imagine the fallout if Elementz/TheOddOne called phreak a "faggot" on twitter?
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B...b...but Louis CK.All of these things. Fuck, I'm going to make myself another G&T and pass out. The fact that any of you are defending this bullshit is ridiculous. The intent should be obvious.
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You're a professional FG player. You have ONE job: perform well at events. That's it. Blaming PS3 when you knew in advance is unacceptable.
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Please don't start with that patented ot-gaf guilt trip crap. Nobody has defended what chris g said.The fact that any of you are defending this bullshit is ridiculous. The intent should be obvious.
Man it's like 6 o clock and I haven't slept but I will say this. Feel how you want to feel about it but that's not gonna change how black people use the word amongst themselves. Also don't put words in my mouth I never said the word is restricted to black people, you can scream the n-word as loud as you want just accept the responsibility it brings. People will feel a certain way about it. Thats simply the way language works. The word in question is not even exactly the one your posts is using.Yeah i dont subscribe to that crap, sorry. The example you used of words having a different between you and your is valid only because the two people involved actually do share a connection for the context at which the word is used. This does not apply to an entire ethnicity or group though, and to suggest it does is insulting. Not every black person has the same relationship with the word "nigger". Not every black person even shares that type of history with the word. Why do black people today have even have a personal relationship with a word whose context they have not even experienced? Why do white people today have to be wary of using a word because of connotations they have had nothing to do with?
If the word nigger is restricted to blacks as you state, using your guidelines are african immigrants not allowed to use it? Or how about blacks whose recent ancestry resides in the carribbean?
You seriously don't think he ever said it?
I like jiyuna's post
How fucking blind are you? Do you not understand context?Please don't start with that patented ot-gaf guilt trip crap. Nobody has defended what chris g said.
Well I'm done with this argument.
Ending points.
1. He shouldn't of said it. Period.
2. If any action happens it should be on the part of his sponsors.
3. If tournament owners start banning people, that starts a bad precedent. Let the sponsors handle it.
