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[Demon Ice]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/sunday-night/features/article/-/17094076/abandoned/

Gali was using her laptop in the hotel’s staff bar when her drink was spiked. She awoke to a nightmare beyond belief: she had been savagely raped by three of her colleagues. Alone and frightened, she took herself to hospital. What Alicia didn’t know is that under the UAE’s strict sharia laws, if the perpetrator does not confess, a rape cannot be convicted without four adult Muslim male witnesses. She was charged with having illicit sex outside marriage, and thrown in a filthy jail cell for eight months.

From what I understand this happened over a year ago but this is the first time she's talked about it to the media? It's the first I've heard of it.

Gotta love that sharia law. Remember, Islam isn't misogynistic.

 

[Jacobi]

Such a great place to spend your holidays

 

[DR2K]

Makes sense.























Not.

 

[JDSN]

Why you a western woman ever want to go Sharia countries?

 

[Pau]

A rape can't happen without four men witnessing it? That's some logic.

 

[DR2K]

Why you a western woman ever want to go Sharia countries?

I doubt she would have reported the rape had she known much about Sharia and their colorful laws.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Sharia law has to be some of the most nonsensical shit ever.

 

[CountAntonius]

Such a moronic fucking law. I'm not even sure how something so stupid can even be conjured up.

 

[Log4Girlz]

I doubt she would have reported the rape had she known much about Sharia and their colorful laws.

How long does it take to research a country's laws before a trip nowadays?

 

[Demon Ice]

I always found it interesting and unfortunate what a dichotomy the Dubai is. One the one hand you have this amazingly advanced and modern architecture, and on the other hand (assuming it hasn't been chopped off), you have such an outdated and barbaric system of laws.

Such a shame, she made the mistake of being a woman in a Muslim country.

 

[Deified Data]

if the perpetrator does not confess, a rape cannot be convicted without four adult Muslim male witnesses.

I never got this.

Who are these 4 adult Muslim men just standing around witnessing the rape and doing nothing about it? Other rapists? Easily the most dysfunctional major religion, and that's saying a hell of a lot.

 

[Cyan]

Why you a western woman ever want to go Sharia countries?

Sounds like it was a business trip.

How long does it take to research a country's laws before a trip nowadays?

I guess, but on the other hand, how many people are going on a trip and go "wellp, better read up on their rape laws!"

 

[Dabanton]

I wonder how long her 'colleagues' were planning to rape her?

The fact that it was three of them is just disturbing. It says they were deported. I wonder when they were originally from?

 

[Log4Girlz]

Sounds like it was a business trip.



I guess, but on the other hand, how many people are going on a trip and go "wellp, better read up on their rape laws!"

I would hope any woman entering a country with a predominantly muslim population. Sadly.

 

[Demon Ice]

Sounds like it was a business trip.

Nah she was an employee at that hotel. I didn't want to copy paste the entire article, first paragraph says she worked there and was drugged / raped by her co-workers.

 

[Majine]

Four males? Not three? Not two? .... Oh geez.

 

[jaxword]

Sharia law has to be some of the most nonsensical shit ever.

Such a moronic fucking law. I'm not even sure how something so stupid can even be conjured up.

Perhaps you atheists haven't heard of this thing called God.

God makes the rules and His word is law.

You don't question God.

 

[ComputerMKII]

Why did the US invade Afghanistan and not this country? Oh wait...

I always found it interesting and unfortunate what a dichotomy the Dubai is. One the one hand you have this amazingly advanced and modern architecture, and on the other hand (assuming it hasn't been chopped off), you have such an outdated and barbaric system of laws.

Nazism was born in the country which had the best musicians, scientists, engineers and philosophers.

 

[Cyan]

Nah she was an employee at that hotel. I didn't want to copy paste the entire article, first paragraph says she worked there and was drugged / raped by her co-workers.

Ah, I see. Mistaken assumption based on the word "colleague."

 

[gamma]

Come on, I would LOVE to her someone defending this shit. Fucking backwards medieval culture.

 

[Valnen]

This is a case where the military should intervene and break that person out of jail. This should be considered kidnapping.

 

[The Janitor]

Crime happens - arrest the victim. It's literally backwards.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

She was charged with having illicit sex outside marriage, and thrown in a filthy jail cell for eight months.

Fuck anyone that works in this country's judicial system.

 

[Demon Ice]

This is a case where the military should intervene and break that person out of jail. This should be considered kidnapping.

She's safe back home now, this happened some time ago but this is the first she's talking about it apparently.

 

[Valnen]

She's safe back home now, this happened some time ago but this is the first she's talking about it apparently.

Her country failed her if they let her serve the time.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Her country failed her if they let her serve the time.

Don't do the crime if you can't serve the time. Oh wait.

 

[xxracerxx]

Watch the documentary called "The Invisible War" on Netflix to get outraged at the US Military's treatment of rape victims, both women and men. There are women who are charged with adultery after their superiors raped them, the kicker is the women were not married but the rapist was. No charges were filed against the rapist as well.

 

[Loofy]

Come on, I would LOVE to her someone defending this shit. Fucking backwards medieval culture.

This is an insult to medieval culture.

 

[dan2026]

Truly a savage hell hole.

Its like they really are stuck in the dark ages.

 

[jaxword]

This is a case where the military should intervene and break that person out of jail. This should be considered kidnapping.

What? Are you seriously advocating that Australia invade the UAE?

That would literally start World War 3. There's far too much money and resource investment in the area for anyone to allow that to happen. Not to mention the logistics of getting Australia's army over there and not being able to use their allies' bases.

Also, it's not kidnapping if you break a country's laws and get arrested, regardless of how insane and backwards the laws are.

 

[A.E Suggs]

How long does it take to research a country's laws before a trip nowadays?

Maybe she doesn't have internet or an home town library. People have trouble reseaching video games before buying so it wouldn't surprise me that people wouldn't research anything else.

 

[Metrotab]

Some countries really need to get into the modern age.

 

[Valnen]

Watch the documentary called "The Invisible War" on Netflix to get outraged at the US Military's treatment of rape victims, both women and men.

It makes me angry enough knowing I can do nothing to change any of this. Watching that would make me have a heart attack.

What? Are you seriously advocating that Australia invade the UAE?

They could have sent a small team to bust her out.

Also, it's not kidnapping if you break a country's laws and get arrested, regardless of how insane and backwards the laws are.

Bullshit, by saying that you are saying their laws are valid and to be respected, when they're not.

 

[Rayis]

This is why it is necessary to have a secular government. Specially because of injustices like this.

 

[OriginofHysteria]

Cannot be convicted without four male witnesses? Wtf this sounds like some sick Chapelle's Show skit.

 

[Darklord]

Her country failed her if they let her serve the time.

But those 9 heroin smugglers in Indonesia? WE GOTTA BRING THEM HOME CAUSE IT'S ON DA NEWS!

 

[Kinitari]

As horrible as her ordeal was, I'm glad she's talking about it with the public. With a country like UAE, you have to hit them where it hurts - tourism.

 

[Orayn]

I would really like it if someone from Muslim-GAF could explain what kind of horrible interpretation of sharia law leads to a conviction like this. Is it really that cut and dry, or might there be room for modern, secular ethics to work their way in?

 

[BeerSnob]

This is an insult to medieval culture.

Yeah, this is closer to hunter gatherer, tribal crap. I'm surprised a shaman and a bag of hallucinogens weren't the primary investigative tools.

 

[jaxword]

Send a small team to bust her out.

Bullshit, by saying that you are saying their laws are valid and to be respected, when they're not.

I said no such thing.

Are you saying that it's right for another country to invade another if they disagree with their laws? Because if you say yes, then you're okay with, say, a conservative Islamic theocracy taking over the US because they could view our laws as invalid and not respectable.

 

[Ether_Snake]

So according to Saudi Islamic law, you can only prove you have been raped, if you have been gang raped, while others who did not rape you were standing by.

 

[Valnen]

Are you saying that it's right for another country to invade another if they disagree with their laws?

When it's something like Sharia law and they kidnap citizens of other countries for violating those "laws", then yes, yes I am. There is absolutely no reason not to bust those people out of their prison by force if necessary.

 

[Agnostic]

UAE sounds awesome if you hate women and have a penis.

 

[ThisWreckage]

Why you a western woman ever want to go Sharia countries?

It's blunt, but I have to agree with you. It's not like those countries have respect for women.

 

[Demon Ice]

As horrible as her ordeal was, I'm glad she's talking about it with the public. With a country like UAE, you have to hit them where it hurts - tourism.

Agreed, if they refuse to bring their laws into the 21st century then the best option is to just warn people from going there. There really should be a travel advisory for that region.

 

[zsidane]

former employer reacting:

What happened in June 2008 to Alicia Gali, a former employee of Le Méridien Al Aqah hotel, was deplorable. While the hotel worked diligently on Ms. Gali’s behalf, the authorities investigated and prosecuted Ms. Gali under the local laws. Additionally, the men involved were also prosecuted and each served prison terms before being deported. As for Ms. Gali’s lawsuit against the hotel, we disagree with the allegations.

The hotel management provided support and assistance to Ms. Gali and her family throughout that time,
including assisting with medical support and the investigation, liaising with her representative Australian embassy and coordinating and arranging affairs with her family in Australia.

Starwood’s repeated approaches to discuss Ms. Gali's claim with her attorneys have been ignored and declined. As this matter is part of an open on-going Starwood investigation and litigation commenced by Ms. Gali against Starwood and the Commonwealth of Australia, we cannot comment further at this time.

The safety and security of our associates and guests continues to be a paramount priority.

 

[RM8]

This is unbelievable. The world is so weird with laws like this still existing, it's honestly a bit disheartening. Humanity is such a mixed bag.

 

[Zoramon089]

a rape cannot be convicted without four adult Muslim male witnesses

Well that seems like a fairly reasonable threshold...

Really? How does one even establish something as ridiculous as this? So if 3 makes witness a rape it doesn't count? How about if there are 4 men but the last isn't Muslim? Are Muslim's alone able to determine what constitutes rape? Geez

 

[dan2026]

Humanity is such a mixed bag.

I believe the Angry Video Game Nerd had the final word on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61HNxKK9iPo

 

[Alcoholikaust]

Dubai sounds awesome if you hate women and have a penis.

and have money, that mofo ain't cheap