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Wait, ecstatically happy? That sets off alarm bells in my head. Would you describe her as being manic during that period? Full of energy?

It's hard to say since we were at separate schools (only 15 minutes apart, but we were both busy so I didn't see her everyday). I'm leaning towards no though. By ecstatic I meant more along the lines of the happiness that comes from the beginning of a relationship.

I don't think she has bi-polar. Obviously i am not in any position to say that though.

Bad day. Can't get out of bed. A close friend of mine has been dodging me. Maybe I've used up all of my chances. Friends don't seem particularly equipped to handle long-term depression. It just makes me feel even more isolated.

It is really tough on people, so that is why you can't fault him, as shitty as it is :/

I think he will come back around though.
 
I kinda feel like dying. Before anyone panics, Im not going to do anything extreme. Seriously. I like life too much, and have too many things I want to achieve. But I fucking hate myself, and I fucking hate my life. I sometimes feel like Im at my end, and just want to crawl in a hole until it all goes away. But that doesn't help things. it obviously makes it worse. I cannot take it sometimes. I don't know what to do. My GF treats me kinda poorly sometimes, and it only makes things worse. She has depression, but usually cannot empathize with mine. I don't know what to do anymore, and it sucks. Im stuck in a hole, and every time I try to get out I make things worse. Then I try to avoid them and make things worse. Then i try to address them, but can't help no matter who I ask.

I hate this.
 
I'm tired, guys.

I'm in my early 30's, work a dead end job (that I love, but that doesn't stop it from being a dead end), have no real friends, and the last time a girl was even remotely interested in me was in high school.

I go to bed every night wishing I could wake up as somebody else, and being disappointed when I don't.

My entire life has been a train wreck of poor decisions and endless disappointment.

Where do you even start to improve when you have so little to work with in the first place?

In the same boat as you brother.

My only advice at the moment is trying something new, which in my case has been going to the gym. Get your brain to start doing something different from the norm.
 
It is really tough on people, so that is why you can't fault him, as shitty as it is :/

I think he will come back around though.

I DO fault him because if the situation were reversed, I know he'd expect me to be there. People can't relate to mental illness... or any illness they've never had.
 
Dani, I just wanted to say that you put into words what I'm feeling better than I ever could. Thanks for your story. I hate that I have OCD and have these compulsions I don't understand and have trouble fighting. I don't like being out of control, and I don't like not understanding things, and yet I have to go through both those things every day.
Yeah, I too dislike being out of control and not understanding things.
I believe my desire to want control comes exactly from my inability to control my own thoughts.
As for my need to understanding things, I find it that if I don't understand something or lack information, my brain ends with too much room for imagination... which never leads to good things.

Dani, thanks for writing that.

I suffer from OCD as well, but it seems to be a tad different than yours. For example, I hardly have your type of thoughts where I'd be afraid to open my mouth or something. Even more so, I have yet to find one other person in the world with similar thoughts as me. With similar, I don't mean my exact thoughts but a similar type of compulsion/fear/anxiety. I actually tend to be more depressed because I often feel like there are things only I notice, or at least it only bothers me. I'm currently typing on an iPad so I'm not in the mood of making a post like yours, but I might explain my thoughts etc in a bigger post one of these days.

Anyway, one thing we do seem to share, is the increased need to have a clean personal space. I'm not yet on your level (I think) but if my brother tries to enter my room, I usually run to my door as fast as I can to hold him off. The thought of someone else entering my room is just... I just can't allow it. I don't want them using my keyboard or pc, I don't want them touching anything even. It's so strange, since I used to be a "I don't give a fuck" guy when it came to stuff like that. Hell, I once took my entire pc to a friends house back in the day. If I even think about doing that these days, I'd feel anxiety. Don't know why, but that's how it is.

I'm also starting to hate my hair. I have a long type of hair, which means I don't actually have long hair, but the hairs itself are long... Ehm if you get what I mean. Anyway, The hair near my ears never sits well and I keep adjusting it with my hands -> hair gets greasy faster because of the oils in my hands or something -> I need to wash it even more with ocd -> washing it too much = hair oils fuck up and it gets greasy faster = ... (i should visit the barber asap and just go with very short hair, but I keep saying "tomorrow")

But yeah, this post is getting longer than expectee already. Gonna end it here and write a complete version later... If anyone cares ;_;

Yeah, the type of actions and thoughts can vary from individual (even if there can be common grounds), and I can understand how such experience could lead someone to be depressed.

My need to have my own space also started with small things (I also used to have no issues to take my stuff to other people houses), my games in particular, then my keyboard. Eventually I started making connections between who touches what, which lead to my behavior becoming increasingly worst.
I really don't have much good advice about it, seeing as I allowed myself to get this bad, I guess the only useful thing to say is that if you find yourself doing a new habit, to try your best not to do it, it's not easy at all, but stopping it later is even more difficult.

Sounds like cutting your hair would be the best way to solve that in the short-term, washing your hands too many times will just lead to skin issues, so hopefully you do so soon.

I would be most interested in reading a complete version of your experience, so by all means do so if you feel like sharing.


Thanks guys, I was a bit nervous about sharing it, but now I'm glad I did.

I DO fault him because if the situation were reversed, I know he'd expect me to be there. People can't relate to mental illness... or any illness they've never had.

I can't blame you for faulting him either, even if it's logically understandable why someone would act in such a way, it's in no way less shitty for a person to threat a friend like that.
 
Got prescribed Escitalopram for my anxiety. Apparently it's not that different that the stuff I was on for depression. It's totally fucking with my sleep though. Waking up super easy.
 
I'm in my early 30's, work a dead end job (that I love, but that doesn't stop it from being a dead end), have no real friends, and the last time a girl was even remotely interested in me was in high school.

I go to bed every night wishing I could wake up as somebody else, and being disappointed when I don't.

My entire life has been a train wreck of poor decisions and endless disappointment.

Where do you even start to improve when you have so little to work with in the first place?

Dedicate 10-20 hours a week into developing your social skills.
Dedicate 5-10 hours a week into either becoming less materialistic or developing/changing your career.
Do that every week for the next two years and you'll get good results.
 
Dedicate 10-20 hours a week into developing your social skills.
Dedicate 5-10 hours a week into either becoming less materialistic or developing/changing your career.
Do that every week for the next two years and you'll get good results.

what does one even do for 5-10 hours a week to become less materialistic (genuine question, not having a pop)
 
Got prescribed Escitalopram for my anxiety. Apparently it's not that different that the stuff I was on for depression. It's totally fucking with my sleep though. Waking up super easy.

Lexapro (escitalopram) and Celexa (citalopram) are the same chemical - Lexapro has just the 'S' form, which is the more biologically active form, while Celexa is half 'S' and half (mirror image) 'R' form. You'd think Lexapro would just be double-strength Celexa, but the two may actually be kinda different. The chemistry is neat, anyway - it's a real trick to separate R and S forms of the same molecule.

I might try Pristiq next. I've been off meds for a few months and it's not going well. I can barely speak today - I'm just shutting down.

I'll try to post something hopeful later - it sounds like we could all use it. I'm tempted to make up a chart so we can have an on-call system. When the thread gets really, really grim, we need someone who HAS to be hopeful. I try, guys, but I'm not exactly the picture of mental health.
 
I DO fault him because if the situation were reversed, I know he'd expect me to be there. People can't relate to mental illness... or any illness they've never had.

I know what you mean. I would never be able to leave someone alone when they needed me. It is a shitty circumstance. I really hope he comes back around :/

Came pretty close to doing it tonight. Friends talked me out of it. Kinda feeling more annoyed than comforted though.

You don't know me, but I am glad you didn't.
 
I know what you mean. I would never be able to leave someone alone when they needed me. It is a shitty circumstance. I really hope he comes back around :/

Even if he does, I'm not sure if I could forgive him. I guess that would be up to me. I doubt the relationship would be the same, regardless. Just sucks.
 
I keep sleeping for such long hours, and after I wake up i'll feel exhausted again only 4-5 hours later where i'll keel over and sleep for an extra 2 hours or so. I'm guessing it's the Fluoxetine 40mg doing it, not a fan.

Not to mention I keep having countless dreams every time I go to sleep. That in itself is a headache.
 
what does one even do for 5-10 hours a week to become less materialistic (genuine question, not having a pop)

Well, depends on what ways you're materialistic so there's infinite possibilites. But the basic aim is to reduce the value you put on material things so that you reduce the amount of money you need to spend. Which in turn reduces/obliterates the pressure on you career wise.

The kind of things that you could try to do include:
Find ways to stop caring about what other people think of you. If you start to succeed in this you'll not need to spend money to impress people e.g. You won't need to waste money on brand name clothes.
Live the simple life. Think less not more. Meditate. Stop giving a shit about having a nice house and a nice car, be happy with what you've got.
Find ways to stop wasting money; eat out less, shop more efficiently.
Learn how to do things e.g. learn about fashion and you can learn how to dress well on a budget.
Progressively cut things out of your life. See how you get on, you'll see what you can do without.
Look for cheap forms of entertainment e.g. reading, playing an instrument, jogging.
Cut out addictions: Sugar, alcohol, drugs, gambling, chocolate.
Get a pencil and do something creative like write or draw.
If you're religious you can focus more on your religion. Even if you're not, you can look at being more spiritual. Again you can look into meditation or look into things like yoga or Tai Chi.
Get a sledgehammer and smash your TV screen. Then throw the TV away, cancel your TV subscriptions.
Stop following and wasting money on the latest gadgets.
Take it further, cut down your intake of media and electronics in general. Stop listening to pop/hip-hop music. Stop the TV programmes. Electronic entertainment just like sugar has addictive qualities. It also has negative influences(often on purpose to try to extract more money from you(that's what adverts are for or all the blinged rappers)). They speak to your subconcious. Stop looking at them and you regain control.

See, there's lots that you can do. Underlying this is deficiency in self-esteem, this helps lead to caring what others think. Stop caring what others think will help your self-esteem. Stop caring what society thinks. You should try to find ways to believe in yourself and find ways to accept yourself.
 
Well, depends on what ways you're materialistic so there's infinite possibilites. But the basic aim is to reduce the value you put on material things so that you reduce the amount of money you need to spend. Which in turn reduces/obliterates the pressure on you career wise.

The kind of things that you could try to do include:
Find ways to stop caring about what other people think of you. If you start to succeed in this you'll not need to spend money to impress people e.g. You won't need to waste money on brand name clothes.
Live the simple life. Think less not more. Meditate. Stop giving a shit about having a nice house and a nice car, be happy with what you've got.
Find ways to stop wasting money; eat out less, shop more efficiently.
Learn how to do things e.g. learn about fashion and you can learn how to dress well on a budget.
Progressively cut things out of your life. See how you get on, you'll see what you can do without.
Look for cheap forms of entertainment e.g. reading, playing an instrument, jogging.
Cut out addictions: Sugar, alcohol, drugs, gambling, chocolate.
Get a pencil and do something creative like write or draw.
If you're religious you can focus more on your religion. Even if you're not, you can look at being more spiritual. Again you can look into meditation or look into things like yoga or Tai Chi.
Get a sledgehammer and smash your TV screen. Then throw the TV away, cancel your TV subscriptions.
Stop following and wasting money on the latest gadgets.
Take it further, cut down your intake of media and electronics in general. Stop listening to pop/hip-hop music. Stop the TV programmes. Electronic entertainment just like sugar has addictive qualities. It also has negative influences(often on purpose to try to extract more money from you(that's what adverts are for or all the blinged rappers)). They speak to your subconcious. Stop looking at them and you regain control.

See, there's lots that you can do. Underlying this is deficiency in self-esteem, this helps lead to caring what others think. Stop caring what others think will help your self-esteem. Stop caring what society thinks. You should try to find ways to believe in yourself and find ways to accept yourself.
I'm not sure if stopping doing all the things one enjoys is the right way to go. Not saying it isn't, but to stop listening to pop music? Really? What can it achieve?
 
Guys,

(Apologies for my BEAUTIFUL IMAGES, philistines!)
What a shitty couple of days it has been for me (and you too, it seems). I've just been feeling so down - I can't sleep, I can't eat, today I could barely even talk ffs, the physical and mental pain is almost intolerable. Still, I like to think of myself as the captain of this little ship - and not just because all of my fantasies are nautical-themed - and it won't do for the captain to be all down in the dumps, or "scuppers," or "starboards." The SS Mental Health is not exactly the most seaworthy vessel to begin with - she takes on water like a motherfucker and we need to constantly bail her out or we're all going to drown. Also, we forgot the sails, we tossed the oars overboard, we're out of marine diesel, the rudder fell off, the ship's on fire, and we get attacked by the occasional whale. Also we ran out of food and rum six months ago. If you can look past the small amounts of sinking/exploding, though, she's a proud ship and it's an honor to take the helm and steer this thread right into those icebergs.

So three things happened to cheer me up a little bit, so I thought I'd share, as promised.

1) I listened to a bunch of angsty 90s music, which always makes me feel better. I was particularly inspired by the opening line from Bush's 1994 hit, "Machinehead," as follows:

Unnnhhhhgghhhhyayayaya


which is basically poetry.

2) I found my lucky pencil!

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I've had the same Pentel Technica-X since 2000, I think. It has traveled the world with me. It has rusted a tad, as you can see, but the action is still like working the bolt on a rifle. It's absolutely flawless.

I found it in my backpack which is odd, as I'm pretty sure I've dumped the contents out 40 or 50 times in a fruitless search for my beloved pencil. I'm not sure what the fuck it was doing just sitting there, but I'm not complaining.

I associate that pencil with a very happy time in my life, working for my college mentor, a man second in importance only to my father. He passed away a few years ago and I really wish he were here to give me some advice. He was a great man and I was really bummed when I lost my silly pencil 'cause, I dunno, I'm sentimental like that, and my trusty pencil made me think of all the work I did in his lab. I'm glad it's back!

3) Flo posted those awesome pictures of her notebook and I decided to start keeping a journal again.

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I was trying to find a blank notebook to use (I keep a ton of notebooks around, but my office is a mess, so they're all buried under stuff) and I found where I had stashed my journal collection! So...I write a lot.

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The earliest one I have is from 2001, when I traveled to Portugal (shoutout to dani_dc!). I made sporadic entries, many of which foretell my eventual mental health problems.

I picked it up in 2002, right after I was diagnosed with depression, recorded here:

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That notebook is a mix of occasional updates on my life, along with random chemistry notes, lists of things for school and the like.

I wrote almost every day from 2005-2012. I used little pocket notebooks for years, but I realized that, if I wanted to keep these things, I needed something sturdier. I had moleskines before hipsters ruined them, then used a variety of similar black notebooks. I also carry more writing utensils - from wooden pencils to fountain pens - then any human being would ever possibly need, just because I enjoy the physical act of writing.

Here's a pretty typical entry from 2005:

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I mostly wrote about what I was up to - what I was reading, what games I was playing, how the depression was going, stuff I did with my friends. It's not the most riveting reading, to be honest, but it's interesting to me to see what I was up to 8 years ago.

Inspired by my mum, I eventually started writing down the books I read in a separate notebook:

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It's fun to look at little patterns - I did a string of sailing books in 2007 (a few more show up in 2009), I read a lot of comics in the first part of 2009. I haven't recorded my reading for the past year or so, which I really regret.

Doodling and journaling is a good way to pass the time:

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Complaining is a constant theme in all of my journals. I kind of got it out of my system a bit so I bitched much less in my interactions with others.

I eventually started doing more essay-like, self-reflection stuff. It's funny how long it took me to open up a bit more in my journals:

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The more honest you can be, the better, but I still worry about people reading my stuffs. I carried my journal in my bag so I could jot stuff down throughout the day, so it wasn't inconceivable that I'd lose it or something. I should probably keep it somewhere safer and try to delve a little deeper into this mess that I call a mind.

Which brings me to...

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This beauty. My Lego Moleskine!

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It's not as nice as Flo's, but I followed her lead and put a little reminder to myself inside the cover. If you get to know me, you'll soon realize that I am extremely hard on myself, like, okay, sometimes to a slightly ridiculous degree. I figure I can be open and honest with myself without beating myself up too much. (And thanks to Trin and co. for repeatedly pointing out that I am way too hard on myself!)

I can't tell you how glad I am that I have some record of my life over the past decade. It often feels like life isn't going anywhere, that every day is exactly the same. But when life really did not seem to be going anywhere, at least I could make a little record, some little monument to the fact that I was here and I survived another day. And looking back, holy crap has a lot happened! I have a record of all these events and what I thought at the time. That last part is key, because I did not think about things the same way in 2005 as I do in 2013 and that's so important to have that reminder of growth and change. It hasn't all been great, but it certainly hasn't all been awful. And whatever it is or was, I'm the product of all of it. I was there and now I'm here, and if I really look at it, I think maybe I'm actually an OK guy, and maybe things will be alright.

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Smooth sailing, guys!
 
You have beautiful handwriting and I hate you. :P

(I keep getting told I should write things down, for various reasons, and I can never seem to make myself do it. x_x )
 
You have beautiful handwriting and I hate you. :P

(I keep getting told I should write things down, for various reasons, and I can never seem to make myself do it. x_x )

My last handwriting sample was not met with enough approval, so that's, like, 95% why I posted this. :P

I don't mean to make anyone feel bad for not WRITING WAY TOO DAMN MUCH GET OVER YOURSELF BAGELS! Today is as good a day to start writing as any. Most of what I have is fairly mundane, lots of complaining, entry after entry of what I'm reading. But there are these little details buried in there that kind of flesh out what was going on, what I was thinking, what caught my attention. It's oddly fascinating, if for no other reason than I can look back on it and see how different I am now.

My record of the past year is largely in the depression thread, and now here. I want to look back on that and write a bit about it. I've changed a lot because of people I met here. If nothing else, it'll be fun to look back in ten years and go "who the fuck was Piano, and why was I in love with him? What the hell is a 'Prax'?..." :P

(Just kidding! I'll love you all forever!)

you can always blog or keep a word document or whatever, if you're like the 99% of people who hate writing by hand. But I love doing it, A, I like to be able to doodle and color in squares and crap, B, I'm a terrible typist, C, and I don't always have (or don't want to have) access to a computer when I travel, when I really, really want to record stuff, D.


("and bees, I guess" is my new catchphrase.)
 
you can always blog or keep a word document or whatever, if you're like the 99% of people who hate writing by hand. But I love doing it, A, I like to be able to doodle and color in squares and crap, B, I'm a terrible typist, C, and I don't always have (or don't want to have) access to a computer when I travel, when I really, really want to record stuff, D.

I've pondered a lot about why I don't like to have a record of my thoughts, format be damned. Could be that I feel my memory is sufficient (I know it actually isn't), could be that I don't want to realize my thoughts (I tend to be very scared by real-ness at times), could be that I think they're stupid.

Actually it probably is that I think they're stupid, I'm crazy self-critical.
 
I've pondered a lot about why I don't like to have a record of my thoughts, format be damned. Could be that I feel my memory is sufficient (I know it actually isn't), could be that I don't want to realize my thoughts (I tend to be very scared by real-ness at times), could be that I think they're stupid.

Actually it probably is that I think they're stupid, I'm crazy self-critical.

I struggled with that forever. I still think most of what I write down is stupid. You have to find a small way to break through that. For me, starting by writing about the stuff I was doing - games I was playing, books I was reading, movies I saw - really helped. Because then it's just a record of stuff you did - it feels less stupid, like, LOOK AT HOW GREAT MY THOUGHTS ARE! Try just writing down stuff that happens - be more factual. From there, you'll kind of naturally find yourself saying how you feel about stuff. And from there, you can try the occasional reflective piece.

It really worked for me, and I'm crazy self-critical, too. I wrote that long post and immediately told chat that I kinda hate it. :P People have gotten good at telling me to shoosh.
 
Hi. It's taken a little while longer than it could've to finally do this, but with some encouraging words from a couple of people here - including Bagels, thanks, I will try to gather that info soon - I've finally decided to come out with my problems. Up until this point, there have only been two people in the entire world that I've really opened up to about it, one of whom is my therapist, so it's kind of a big deal to me. I didn't know where else I felt capable of saying this, so..

I've been suffering from agoraphobia for a large part of my life now (I'm 22) which manifests itself in a fear of leaving the house and simply being outside with or around other people. It's difficult for most people I ever meet to realise I am chronically anxious about leaving the house, or travelling, because when I am in a certain environment or having a particularly good day at handling my anxiety, they don't seem able to see the problem. For example, I once had a meeting with a woman to discuss my disability benefit. Her first instinct was that I was there looking for a job because I seemed so normal. I can't say I'm completely housebound, but most days I don't go out and have been in different types of treatment for it during that time, including group therapy, counselling over the phone, and currently, cognitive behavioral therapy. Most journeys I make are to see family members or to meet different appointments. For the past year or so the anxiety has progressively worsened with no signs of an upturn.

Earlier this year, my mum told me she was suffering with depression, on the same day we thought my granddad was seriously ill (he's okay now). It was the trigger for her to admit it and since then she's been in her own treatment for it. I can't say too much about how it seems to be going for her since every time I've seen her since, I've received mixed messages from her. Basically over the past month or so I've realised that I am in a depression, too, and it's unlike anything I've ever experienced with the anxiety. I've probably been like this longer than I cared to realise, and it's taken some effort to even acknowledge the fact that I'm in this state. I hate my life as it is. I have no job, no life, literally no friends that I can meet up with and talk to. No goals. No aims. The passion I had for things like games or writing has reduced dramatically. I can't sleep properly, and if I do get off to sleep, I have some of the ugliest dreams, and I wake up and just lie in bed doing nothing. I almost never want to get up and do things, no matter how trivial, mundane or even enjoyable they should be. Reading this, you probably just think I'm lazy or something, but I'm really not. My family is small and the important people in it spend almost all of their time abroad, and when they are here, I'm constantly under pressure to be helping my mum, and nobody sees or wants to know about me or my problems. I feel continually rejected by people, even my therapist who I told I felt I was depressed says he can't do much but recommend that I see someone else for it. I'm not even sure whether the system in the UK allows for me to be seen by two different people for my problems, but if I was to see someone else about it, I would be forced back onto a waiting list for possibly more than 3 months.

I feel like a total shadow of my former self, someone who was reasonably comfortable in their own skin, who was pretty outgoing and able to socialise, like I'm a shell or something. I spend most of my days now just feeling aimless and resenting my own situation and those better off than me. Even posting on some parts of GAF have become a hardship in their own right, and even though I'm trying to be forthcoming and casual about things, I feel like almost no-one wants to know me or like me in the slightest, or if they do, that they're pretending or mocking me. I guess my thoughts bleed into whatever I do or say. Now I just spend most of my day lying around listening to podcasts or music, or just refreshing websites and wishing I was someone else. I've never known myself to be like this and it scares me. I'm not suicidal, I've never thought of hurting myself, I just.. I just want this to be rid of.

I'm not even sure if writing this accomplishes anything, since I never feel I do a good enough job explaining things no matter what they are. I guess it's maybe a step to fully accepting what I'm going through right now. I just needed to get something out to people since my shoulders are heavy with this stuff, and maybe it lightens that a bit.
 
I feel like a total shadow of my former self, someone who was reasonably comfortable in their own skin, who was pretty outgoing and able to socialise, like I'm a shell or something. I spend most of my days now just feeling aimless and resenting my own situation and those better off than me. Even posting on some parts of GAF have become a hardship in their own right, and even though I'm trying to be forthcoming and casual about things, I feel like almost no-one wants to know me or like me in the slightest, or if they do, that they're pretending or mocking me. I guess my thoughts bleed into whatever I do or say. Now I just spend most of my day lying around listening to podcasts or music, or just refreshing websites and wishing I was someone else. I've never known myself to be like this and it scares me. I'm not suicidal, I've never thought of hurting myself, I just.. I just want this to be rid of.

You sound a lot like me, only I've been struggling with this for quite a while longer (I'm 25 now, and I've been like this since I was...18/19? Shit.). Don't really have a lot of time for my response I'm afraid (I'll be back later), but I want to urge you to try and break out of this sooner rather than later. It sounds like useless advice, but the longer you let this go on the harder it becomes to overcome all this. I don't really have any real solution, I'm in a very difficult spot right now, but I'm trying to work myself out of it. I'm working on my Master's thesis at the same time, so that approaching deadline sort of keeps me going (although not as frequently as I'd like). But yeah, everything you said about feeling like a shell of your former self, aimlessly refreshing websites, all that sounds very familiar.

I was actually in this thread because I needed to vent about an experience I just had. Needed to go out to buy a Mother's Day present for my mom (she's on vacation now, so I had an excuse to put that off). Going outside is a major task for me. There's a reason for that in my case. I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but some years ago I was in an accident which burned and scarred my face. It healed to a certain point, but I'll never be normal looking. I'm a bit more comfortable in a darker setting, like a pub, and even then only when I'm in a good mood with people I really trust (there aren't a lot of them these days, as I've driven a lot of people away), and then only after a couple of drinks. But when I'm outside during the day, I look like a monster. It's not just in my head either, people frequently comment on it. Some because they're concerned, some because they see that I'm uncomfortable about it and they want to make a joke to make me feel better, and some because they're just dicks (there are more people out there like that than you'd think). It all hurts, and every single look I get, every comment, it just keeps bouncing around in my head for days. I need to get my degree soon and find a job, but I just can't become a part of the real world while I'm like this. I feel like in the last couple of months I made huge leaps, from being near-suicidal to being what I am now: healthier, off the drugs (I used to push my problems away with weed. Don't ever even try that), my studies are managed better, and I'm trying to work on restoring my old friendships. I'm not there yet, but at least there are moments where I'm even close to happy/hopeful.

Not today though. Had a major, major anxiety attack while I was out there. Kept stammering like an idiot. Aware of everyone that looked at me. I'm in a very bad place right now, after doing pretty good for some time. The realisation just hit me that, no matter what I try to do to change myself, I'll never change. I'm finally ready to undertake action and be more pro-active, but I'll always look like this. Nothing can change that. And that means I'll always be alone. Always awkward, always scared. Sorry, no point going down that road now. But things aren't good now. Fuck.

Sorry Monosukoi, didn't mean to make this post all about me. Please don't focus to much on my negativity, this is all focused on my own life and my own stupid mistakes, it's not meant as a commentary on your post. There's a lot of ways in which you can get help, and ways in which you can improve your life. Don't lose hope. As you said yourself, there's a good person in there. You just need to bring him to the surface again. I'll come back when I've calmed down a bit so I can be more helpful. I need to see my thesis supervisor now. Yeah.

This is a very messy post, but I'm a bit emotional right now. Today's not a good day. Sorry everyone.
 
Hi. It's taken a little while longer than it could've to finally do this, but with some encouraging words from a couple of people here - including Bagels, thanks, I will try to gather that info soon - I've finally decided to come out with my problems. Up until this point, there have only been two people in the entire world that I've really opened up to about it, one of whom is my therapist, so it's kind of a big deal to me. I didn't know where else I felt capable of saying this, so..

I've been suffering from agoraphobia for a large part of my life now (I'm 22) which manifests itself in a fear of leaving the house and simply being outside with or around other people. It's difficult for most people I ever meet to realise I am chronically anxious about leaving the house, or travelling, because when I am in a certain environment or having a particularly good day at handling my anxiety, they don't seem able to see the problem. For example, I once had a meeting with a woman to discuss my disability benefit. Her first instinct was that I was there looking for a job because I seemed so normal. I can't say I'm completely housebound, but most days I don't go out and have been in different types of treatment for it during that time, including group therapy, counselling over the phone, and currently, cognitive behavioral therapy. Most journeys I make are to see family members or to meet different appointments. For the past year or so the anxiety has progressively worsened with no signs of an upturn.

Earlier this year, my mum told me she was suffering with depression, on the same day we thought my granddad was seriously ill (he's okay now). It was the trigger for her to admit it and since then she's been in her own treatment for it. I can't say too much about how it seems to be going for her since every time I've seen her since, I've received mixed messages from her. Basically over the past month or so I've realised that I am in a depression, too, and it's unlike anything I've ever experienced with the anxiety. I've probably been like this longer than I cared to realise, and it's taken some effort to even acknowledge the fact that I'm in this state. I hate my life as it is. I have no job, no life, literally no friends that I can meet up with and talk to. No goals. No aims. The passion I had for things like games or writing has reduced dramatically. I can't sleep properly, and if I do get off to sleep, I have some of the ugliest dreams, and I wake up and just lie in bed doing nothing. I almost never want to get up and do things, no matter how trivial, mundane or even enjoyable they should be. Reading this, you probably just think I'm lazy or something, but I'm really not. My family is small and the important people in it spend almost all of their time abroad, and when they are here, I'm constantly under pressure to be helping my mum, and nobody sees or wants to know about me or my problems. I feel continually rejected by people, even my therapist who I told I felt I was depressed says he can't do much but recommend that I see someone else for it. I'm not even sure whether the system in the UK allows for me to be seen by two different people for my problems, but if I was to see someone else about it, I would be forced back onto a waiting list for possibly more than 3 months.

I feel like a total shadow of my former self, someone who was reasonably comfortable in their own skin, who was pretty outgoing and able to socialise, like I'm a shell or something. I spend most of my days now just feeling aimless and resenting my own situation and those better off than me. Even posting on some parts of GAF have become a hardship in their own right, and even though I'm trying to be forthcoming and casual about things, I feel like almost no-one wants to know me or like me in the slightest, or if they do, that they're pretending or mocking me. I guess my thoughts bleed into whatever I do or say. Now I just spend most of my day lying around listening to podcasts or music, or just refreshing websites and wishing I was someone else. I've never known myself to be like this and it scares me. I'm not suicidal, I've never thought of hurting myself, I just.. I just want this to be rid of.

I'm not even sure if writing this accomplishes anything, since I never feel I do a good enough job explaining things no matter what they are. I guess it's maybe a step to fully accepting what I'm going through right now. I just needed to get something out to people since my shoulders are heavy with this stuff, and maybe it lightens that a bit.

I'm glad you decided to post! It's kind of a big deal, as you said, even in this largely anonymous setting. I hope it feels good to let it out and know that you have a whole community here to listen and understand. As I told you, the first step for all of us was basically posting something of our own story. I'm a huge believer in reciprocity in friendship - if you expect people to open up to you, you have to open up to them.

I think you did a great job explaining - like Boem, I can totally relate. I'm always floored by the amount of insight people have into their own illnesses. I worry more about people who lack that - who refuse to admit what their real issue is, or think they can somehow think themselves into better health by sheer force of will. It's fucking rough, as you know. It's not a fair fight at all - your own brain is attacking you - how do you fight that? But as Boem said, you've got to go after it.

It's great that you have a therapist, frustrating as that can be, and that you're opening up about your issues with family, with your therapist, here. You need a good look at the enemy before you can fight him.

I think I've found the secret to this community - don't lean on people, let them help boost you up over walls. My depression tends to be kinda cyclical, or pendulum-like. I'll be okay, and then I'll slip down into a funk. Like you, I'll find that I just cannot bring myself to do anything I usually love. All interest just drains out of the world. I'll usually fall apart for a few weeks before I slowly come back up.

So the last few days, I really nosedived. I posted about it here. But I feel a little better today, way ahead of schedule. And a lot of that is because of the people I've posted about (and others!) who keep after me, or people like you who ask me for help (which floors me - I'm just some dippy guy!). You don't have to post in here too long before you'll find people reaching out to you when you need them. I get a little embarrassed, because when I post that I'm bummed, I get messaged like nuts asking what's wrong. It means the world to me. I'm surprisingly bad about talking about my own problems, considering how much time I spend encouraging people to talk about their problems. I'm stupid like that.

I forget what I was saying. That I'm awesome, basically?

NO. That people here will keep after you to not be a total poop, if you'll let them. You can either accept it, and draw strength from it, or fight it like crazy. Choose wisely. I fought it for a few days, but you bastards got to me!

The other thing is, man did it help to read Flo's post and then commit myself to posting SOMETHING positive. If you take this place seriously and try to repay the kindness that people will show you by sharing your own experiences, encouraging them, posting things that make you feel better...it all kinda works. I said I would try to be more hopeful and then I failed for a day to come up with anything hopeful to say. But I do take this place seriously, and I finally found that inspiration. People in chat are good about asking what your goals are each day, or each week, and it helps to have that sense that you want to be strong for them, too. Or I appreciate Nithidia (gently!) hounding me about my resume (but with the promise to read it for me and make suggestions). Commit to something in here and get people to keep after you a bit. It's easy to come in here and just vent (which is great sometimes!), but we can all get stuck in that low place and just kind of wallow together. It works a bit better when you realize that people will go to quite extraordinary lengths to help each other in here.

Everything I post is some kind of "mental-health-GAF manifesto." I can't help it. I'm continuously amazed by what I get out of this place and basically everything I use is offered to anyone who posts in here (even lurkers, who never post in here!). It's like this secret in plain sight!

Anyway, so, yeah...welcome! And I know you have some stuff in the works for people in here which is exciting. It makes me think that you'll get a lot out of our (not so) little community.

:)
 
Hi mental-health-GAF.

I just spent a year in a program for people with mental illness. It was pretty crappy, but I left Vermont and I'm back home in Oregon now.

I bought some cigarettes and I don't want to be a smoker though.

Caffeine doesn't really give you a buzz, it just keeps you up at night...

I was on Prozac, but I stopped it. I'm seeing a new pdoc next week, and might start a new drug such as Cymbalta (anti-depressant).
 
Hi mental GAF!


I have had some thoughts lately on the 'dark side'. Nothing serious, but things are happening in my soon to be 30-life and I do not know where to turn. I feel a bit down, and it disturbs me.

I have narrowed down a few points:

1. My work is in limbo. I have been having a temporary placement since january. The regular personell has decided not to return, so the full time placement will be advertised again (according to the rules). I think they might probably looking for someone more experienced in the field, so there is a risk that I will be out of work in june :(. I have not gotten any final words on it, but I feel it might be this way. This takes a lot of thinking from me.

2. My lifestyle. I have moved away for uiversity studies. I graduated in january and got a temporary job placement. So I have lived for four years from my home. Now all my studying friends have moved home, and I am still here. Sometimes I meet girls on dating sites, but it only ends up with sex only :(. So yeah, I have become quite the lonely gaffer. Although I have many good friends, they live a couple of hours away. I pretty much go to work mon-fri, and don't meet too much people on the weekends. I try to excercise a couple of times a week, but even that part has been dragging.

I guess I just needed to vent some feelings...I might check in here later. I gladly take any advice given.
 
Omg I was just typing up a response but I accidentally pressed the back button and and.... @_____@

Welp, I will post something else later. lol Things happen.

I'm happy to see new avatars in this thread. It's really brave of you to make that first step in posting and you should be proud of that accomplishment. I know that a lot of people are afraid of writing something or communicating about their mental health issues because doing so seems to make them even more real, as if you are somehow giving yourself a life sentence by making it known. It's kind of a form of magical thinking, I guess (plus also being afraid of being judged harshly by others).

I do it a lot too, but I have over time learned to overcome that magical barrier more because dammit, sometimes things need to get done or be said and I wanna contribute and why not who really cares anyway. Even if I can't help myself, maybe I can help someone else or at least provide something interesting to read or even pad and bump this thread because it's a good thread. xD
(Hint: That's an example of how to use your rationalization processes positively for you instead of against you!)

Anyway, I will be back! And for all of you who feel bad because you don't help anyone and don't message Bagels when he's feeling down, just remember that I hardly message him either? And I am still a great person! (hahaaaha.. not really but whatever! I do what I can! You do what you can too and take it one step at a time.)
 
Omg I was just typing up a response but I accidentally pressed the back button and and.... @_____@

Welp, I will post something else later. lol Things happen.

I'm happy to see new avatars in this thread. It's really brave of you to make that first step in posting and you should be proud of that accomplishment. I know that a lot of people are afraid of writing something or communicating about their mental health issues because doing so seems to make them even more real, as if you are somehow giving yourself a life sentence by making it known. It's kind of a form of magical thinking, I guess (plus also being afraid of being judged harshly by others).

I do it a lot too, but I have over time learned to overcome that magical barrier more because dammit, sometimes things need to get done or be said and I wanna contribute and why not who really cares anyway. Even if I can't help myself, maybe I can help someone else or at least provide something interesting to read or even pad and bump this thread because it's a good thread. xD
(Hint: That's an example of how to use your rationalization processes positively for you instead of against you!)

Anyway, I will be back! And for all of you who feel bad because you don't help anyone and don't message Bagels when he's feeling down, just remember that I hardly message him either? And I am still a great person! (hahaaaha.. not really but whatever! I do what I can! You do what you can too and take it one step at a time.)

For next time : You should have pressed the forward button instead of "post reply" again. In most browsers, what you wrote would have been saved.
 
Does anyone have experience combining SSRI's and TCA's? After taking Zoloft for 3 years and quiting for one year, I've been on Zoloft again for a few months. It helps, but it could be a lot better so I've been prescribed Melitracen as well.
 
Whelp. Some of things people said in that thread on the gaming side about a developer who attempted suicide made me feel just awful. I had typed a pretty big post about how disturbing some of the opinions expressed there were to me, but I didn't post it in the end because it sounded far too aggressive. I bet that Suicide is Selfish thread wasn't much better either. I really should avoid stuff like that. :/

-I wrote some stuff here I shouldn't have-
 
Whelp. Some of things people said in that thread on the gaming side about a developer who attempted suicide made me feel just awful. I had typed a pretty big post about how disturbing some of the opinions expressed there were to me, but I didn't post it in the end because it sounded far too aggressive. I bet that Suicide is Selfish thread wasn't much better either. I really should avoid stuff like that. :/

Actually, no. You'd be surprised how sympathetic the Suicide is Selfish thread is (for the most part).
 
I struggled with that forever. I still think most of what I write down is stupid. You have to find a small way to break through that. For me, starting by writing about the stuff I was doing - games I was playing, books I was reading, movies I saw - really helped. Because then it's just a record of stuff you did - it feels less stupid, like, LOOK AT HOW GREAT MY THOUGHTS ARE! Try just writing down stuff that happens - be more factual. From there, you'll kind of naturally find yourself saying how you feel about stuff. And from there, you can try the occasional reflective piece.

It really worked for me, and I'm crazy self-critical, too. I wrote that long post and immediately told chat that I kinda hate it. :P People have gotten good at telling me to shoosh.
I wish I was able to write like you, and a couple of other posters here too, do. Sadly I have neither the skills, imagination nor motivation to do so. But it would still be nice.

On another note, today I felt like shit pretty much all day long. I don't know the reason why, but that's the nature of the beast I guess. Had to put my brave face on at work, I don't want my coworkers to think something's wrong with my mind. And on the morning commute on the bus, I almost felt like breaking down, but luckily I was able to get a hold of myself. I can't begin to imagine the level of ridiculousness and embarrassment it would have been to see a young adult weeping like a stupid child, so I'm glad I didn't (again, no reason at all, nothing particularly bad happened to me these last weeks).

Sometimes it's kinda tough to have no one to talk to about this. I won't say a word to my friends or family, for obvious reasons. A wise GAFfer suggested a couple of days ago that I see a therapist or whatever, and while I kinda agree, I'm still not sure about that. For starters, I'm scared shitless about admitting (to others, and partly to myself too) that I truly have a problem, that something's wrong with me indeed. And I can't shake off the lingering thought that "I'm not crazy!", even though I know pretty well that that's not what a therapist, or psychologist, or psychoanalist is for. Yes, I'm ashamed of thinking that way, I admit that.

I'm also afraid of what my family and friends may say or think about me if they found out. I can't bear myself to face that scenario. That GAFfer I mentioned before recently has been really cool about listening to me, and I'd like to thank him a lot for that (I hope I was able to help him too, however little, if only just by listening, as there's not much I can do or give good advice about, sadly), but I don't want to bother him too much with my troubles, so I'd rather not vent too much to him because of that; he has more than enough with his own problems, so I don't want to add mine to those. So the only thing left to do is keeping it all to myself, and occasionally venting here when I feel like it's too much to hold (I hope you guys don't mind much!). I'm trying not to be overly negative, and for some time I can avoid it, but sooner or later those pessimistic and hopeless thoughts will creep back in. They make me feel worthless, useless and powerless, like I can't even control my own mind when that happens. And yet I want to convince myself that this is normal, that I don't have an ill mind, that I don't need any help, but deep down inside I know that may not be entirely true.

So now that I look at what I wrote (twice, as I accidentally closed the tab and had to rewrite everything up until half the last paragraph), I don't think there's a point to this post. Just some aimless ramblings about my day, and my recent feelings.



And to add some music to this post, here's a song I had in mind while writing this. I consider it extremely beautiful, sad and yet hopeful.

"Hide in your shell" - Supertramp (though this is a live version by Roger Hodgson, the ex frontman of the band -along with Rick Davies, who is still a member-, from one of his solo tours; I couldn't find the original version on Youtube)

Hide in your shell 'cause the world is out to bleed you for a ride.
What will you gain, making your life a little longer?
Heaven or hell, was the journey cold that gave you eyes of steel?
Shelter behind, painting your mind and playing joker.

Too frightening to listen to a stranger.
Too beautiful to put your pride in danger.
You're waiting for someone to understand you.
But you've got demons in your closet,
and you're screaming out to stop it.
Saying life's begun to cheat you,
friends are out to beat you.
Grab on to what you can scramble for.

Don't let the tears linger on inside now,
'cause it's sure time you gained control.
If I can help you, if I can help you,
if I can help you, just let me know.
Well let me show you the nearest signpost,
to get your heart back and on the road.
If I can help you, if I can help you,
if I can help you, just let me know.

All through the night as you lie awake and hold yourself so tight,
what do you need, a second-hand movie-star to tend you?
I, as a boy, I believed the saying the cure for pain was love.
How would it be if you could see the world through my eyes?

Too frightening, the fire's getting colder.
Too beautiful to think you're getting older.
You're looking for someone to give an answer.
But what you see is just illusion.
You're surrounded by confusion.
Saying life's begun to cheat you,
friends are out to beat you.
Grab on to what you can scramble for.

Don't let the tears linger on inside now,
'cause it's sure time you gained control.
If I can help you, if I can help you
if I can help you, just let me know.
Well let me show you the nearest signpost,
to get your heart back and on the road.
If I can help you, if I can help you,
if I can help you, just let me know.

I wanna know, I wanna know, I wanna know, I've got to know.
I wanna know you, I wanna know you, well let me know you.
I wanna feel you, I wanna touch you, please let me near you, let me near you,
can you hear what I'm saying?
Well I'm hoping, I'm dreamin', I'm prayin'!
I know what you're thinkin',
see what you're seein'.
Never ever let yourself go!
Hold yourself down, hold yourself down,
why d'ya hold yourself down?
Why don't you listen, you can trust me!

There's a place I know the way to
a place there is need to,
to feel you,
to feel that you're all alone.
Oh won't you hear me?
I know exactly what you're feelin'.
'Cause all your troubles are within you,
so begin to see that I'm just bleeding to
oh love me, love you.
Loving is the way to help me, help you.
Why must we be so cool, oh so cool?
Oh, we're such damn fools!
 
Thank god, I got new prescriptions. Maybe things can resemble being less terrible soon.

Also, this was the first time I have used a female psychiatrist and it worked out super well. In the past I've always said it wasn't my preference, but I think it may have actually worked out better than with dude-chiatrists.
 
Thank god, I got new prescriptions. Maybe things can resemble being less terrible soon.

Also, this was the first time I have used a female psychiatrist and it worked out super well. In the past I've always said it wasn't my preference, but I think it may have actually worked out better than with dude-chiatrists.

Hope so, finding the right medication can be akin to Russian Roulette unfortunately. It's taken me years of trial and error to find something I "think" works.
 
I wish I was able to write like you, and a couple of other posters here too, do. Sadly I have neither the skills, imagination nor motivation to do so. But it would still be nice.

On another note, today I felt like shit pretty much all day long. I don't know the reason why, but that's the nature of the beast I guess. Had to put my brave face on at work, I don't want my coworkers to think something's wrong with my mind. And on the morning commute on the bus, I almost felt like breaking down, but luckily I was able to get a hold of myself. I can't begin to imagine the level of ridiculousness and embarrassment it would have been to see a young adult weeping like a stupid child, so I'm glad I didn't (again, no reason at all, nothing particularly bad happened to me these last weeks).

Sometimes it's kinda tough to have no one to talk to about this. I won't say a word to my friends or family, for obvious reasons. A wise GAFfer suggested a couple of days ago that I see a therapist or whatever, and while I kinda agree, I'm still not sure about that. For starters, I'm scared shitless about admitting (to others, and partly to myself too) that I truly have a problem, that something's wrong with me indeed. And I can't shake off the lingering thought that "I'm not crazy!", even though I know pretty well that that's not what a therapist, or psychologist, or psychoanalist is for. Yes, I'm ashamed of thinking that way, I admit that.

I'm also afraid of what my family and friends may say or think about me if they found out. I can't bear myself to face that scenario. That GAFfer I mentioned before recently has been really cool about listening to me, and I'd like to thank him a lot for that (I hope I was able to help him too, however little, if only just by listening, as there's not much I can do or give good advice about, sadly), but I don't want to bother him too much with my troubles, so I'd rather not vent too much to him because of that; he has more than enough with his own problems, so I don't want to add mine to those. So the only thing left to do is keeping it all to myself, and occasionally venting here when I feel like it's too much to hold (I hope you guys don't mind much!). I'm trying not to be overly negative, and for some time I can avoid it, but sooner or later those pessimistic and hopeless thoughts will creep back in. They make me feel worthless, useless and powerless, like I can't even control my own mind when that happens. And yet I want to convince myself that this is normal, that I don't have an ill mind, that I don't need any help, but deep down inside I know that may not be entirely true.

So now that I look at what I wrote (twice, as I accidentally closed the tab and had to rewrite everything up until half the last paragraph), I don't think there's a point to this post. Just some aimless ramblings about my day, and my recent feelings.

Man, there's nothing magical about writing. That was a much better post than you give yourself credit for. You've got the skill, you only need as much imagination as you can muster, and the motivation will come. It's like anything else - the more you practice, the easier and better it gets. That works for both content as well as the mechanics (I thought I fixed my handwriting after I broke my hand in 1999, but it looked terrible in 2001, and I was still trying cursive! Ugh!). Anyway, I like using different fountain pens/pencils/colored pencils/etc on different kinds of paper, so that helps motivate me to write. I just like writing stuff, so I'll take any excuse to do it. So find something that's kind of fun to do - get an old typewriter (as jackbugs told me), get a cool pen (I use this one all the time for GAF doodles- black ink, red ink, mechanical pencil and it feels nice and solid), find nice blogging software - whatever will motivate you to write. And don't start all "DEAR DIARY, HERE ARE MY DEEPEST FEELINGS!" Write about what songs you're listening to! That seems pretty natural for you. ;)

I think you underestimate people (including yourself!). It is really, really hard to admit that you have this problem, but it usually feels so much better when you can make that leap. And I've found people to be way more understanding than I could ever dream. The usual response when I tell someone, "hey, I'm sorry I'm like this right now. My depression has gotten really bad," is "gosh, I have depression too!" It's not always going to be that great, but you'd be surprised.

We have no shortage of wise people in here to talk to. People will generally let you know if it's too much. And man, I think of you as a great listener, who tries to be really helpful here and in chat. Don't ever feel bad about taking a little help if people are offering it! Not that anyone needs to earn help, but you've put a lot into this community - let us help you in return.

And I always enjoy you sharing music! That is my number one stay against depression.

"Play it fucking loud!"
 
Thank god, I got new prescriptions. Maybe things can resemble being less terrible soon.

Also, this was the first time I have used a female psychiatrist and it worked out super well. In the past I've always said it wasn't my preference, but I think it may have actually worked out better than with dude-chiatrists.

Hurray for getting new prescriptions:) What did you find different about the female psychiatrist, if you don't mind me asking? I've also only had male ones up to this point.
 
Trying to be positive today. Thinking about the future rather than death today somewhat. I really need to focus on getting a career together. I cannot do this damn call center for the rest of my life. Even though I am old I am considering computer programming. It's something I've had some interest in but my mind would tell me it's too hard or I am too old to be learning it. If I can get an associates degree I might be able to find an entry level position hopefully. I'm somewhat afraid since I am not a math genius.

My group therapy today went well. We spoke about the future and how if things were the way we wanted where would we be and what would be doing. I'd would want to be living on Japan married to a Japanese guy and ride my bike to work that's not stressful. Not looking for a lot or millions of dollars. I'd just like to be happy once

I'm also going to sell a bunch of my action figures and game on eBay this weekend.
 
Trying to be positive today. Thinking about the future rather than death today somewhat. I really need to focus on getting a career together. I cannot do this damn call center for the rest of my life. Even though I am old I am considering computer programming. It's something I've had some interest in but my mind would tell me it's too hard or I am too old to be learning it. If I can get an associates degree I might be able to find an entry level position hopefully. I'm somewhat afraid since I am not a math genius.

My group therapy today went well. We spoke about the future and how if things were the way we wanted where would we be and what would be doing. I'd would want to be living on Japan married to a Japanese guy and ride my bike to work that's not stressful. Not looking for a lot or millions of dollars. I'd just like to be happy once

I'm also going to sell a bunch of my action figures and game on eBay this weekend.

Good on you man, seriously. Don't be afraid of changing gears career-wise. I know that call center job is tough.

Have you considered the buy/sell/trade thread? Dodge those Ebay fees if you can.
 
hahaha, lovely lovely post :) But how the hell am i supposed to watch cartoons.

You could watch them on demand. One of the problems with TV is that you sit there and programmes play one after another, or maybe you sit there channel surfing. Better to pick out the cartoons you want to watch, click on them and watch them and then get up and do something productive. If you wanna keep your TV, just put efforts to cut down the time you spend watching it. I average one TV programme per day.

I'm not sure if stopping doing all the things one enjoys is the right way to go. Not saying it isn't, but to stop listening to pop music? Really? What can it achieve?

It's not about stopping all the things you enjoy. It's about gaining better control of yourself. Modern media has a lot of unhealthy imagery, your concious mind can reject a lot of it, but some of it gets through to the subconcious. If you go somewhere the locals don't have TV you'll see the difference, those people don't swear, they are not enamoured with branding etc etc.

I'm not saying you have to do all of those things, they're just some of the options to free yourself from materialistic tendencies. I'd go into more detail, but I have to prepare for sleep. Maybe tomorrow :)
 
Thank you guys for showing such strength, and also posting some music in this page... It sent me into a musical journey that was severely lacking in my life. Thanks!
 
Hurray for getting new prescriptions:) What did you find different about the female psychiatrist, if you don't mind me asking? I've also only had male ones up to this point.

I've seen a solid number of psychiatrists over the years, and she was really the first that felt like she was listening more than like she was asking a checklist of questions, which in turn made the whole thing seem a bit less formal or confrontational, but not so much to the degree like the shitty mushy therapists out there that just listen while offering weakass common sense advice (the sort of which you could find in this thread for far cheaper than 80 beans or more an hour). It was definitely more comfortable butstill way on point. She also upped my previous doses.
 
Thank god, I got new prescriptions. Maybe things can resemble being less terrible soon.

Also, this was the first time I have used a female psychiatrist and it worked out super well. In the past I've always said it wasn't my preference, but I think it may have actually worked out better than with dude-chiatrists.

Who was it? We live in the same city and I could use a good psychiatrist. I don't tend to click well with other male doctors for some reason...
 
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