I don't see it happening. MS has more marketing money. Has EA sport on it's side...
Programming Issues on XBox One - Johnathon Blow
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I don't see it happening. MS has more marketing money. Has EA sport on it's side...
It's 33 procent now? Wow, the numbers are all over the place.
We had this discussion in some other threads, some big publishers will not bow down to microsoft.
H_Prestige
Banned
Why doesn't MS use their marketing money to make sure every app developer puts out a WP8 version?
Some of you guys need to get out of fantasy land.
Some of you guys need to get out of fantasy land.
Codeblew
Member
Well, it isn't like he doesn't have numbers to back it up.
The bandwidth of RAM has a massive effect on FPS yes. Huge.
EA is a money whore. Not putting your game on the PS4 would cost money so ergo EA is on monies side.
BlazingDarkness
Member
We've only seen reactions from indies as far as I can tell, and some damage control from Cliffy B.
thomasmahler
Moon Studios
I have no idea why he'd go as far as saying that it might end up that games run 60fps on PS4 and 30fps on X1 - The CPU/GPU are very similar, only RAM and BUS is slower in X1. At best you might see increased loading times.
Pretty sure it'll be the same as on 360/PS3 - Both platforms will have great looking games and multiplatform will be better on the machine that's easier to develop for. And in this case, both are.
Pretty sure it'll be the same as on 360/PS3 - Both platforms will have great looking games and multiplatform will be better on the machine that's easier to develop for. And in this case, both are.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It's true.
All PS4 games will be 60fps while Xbox One games will be 30fps.
Please don't be disappointed in November.
OutToLunch
Neo Member
It won't allow you to double the fps but if the team is already close to 60fps, that difference may allow the team to lock one platform at 60 while dropping the other to 30
BruiserBear
Banned
It would seem you have some reading to do.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-spec-analysis-xbox-one
thomasmahler
Moon Studios
Congratulations, that makes no sense whatsoever.
There's grasping at straws.....
Then there is this which is in a whole new league.
Was curious about this. Gets even more interesting - also says that Sony's tools and libraries are better than MS's at this point, and better integrated with Microsoft's own IDE!
Shin Johnpv
Member
Dead Prince
Banned
they'll throw PC in more and PC will win.
SneakyStephan
Banned
That would be one very idle threat... Them having less third party games would hurt them a LOT more than it would hurt the publishers. (ask nintendo
)One one hand they'll be licking publisher's balls and giving them bundles of cash for timed exclusives and on the other hand they'd be threatening them.... with not publishing their games? Come on...
The funny this is finding developers who will utilize the cloud for performance improvements other than faster loading multiplayer maps.
The original wording was that the ps4 gpu has + 50% the performance of the one GPU.
That is the ps4 GPU is 150% of the one GPU.
Therefore 100/150 = 66% which is 33% less than the ps4 GPU.
It all makes sense when you put it into context.
Was curious about this. Gets even more interesting - also says that Sony's tools and libraries are better than MS's at this point, and better integrated with Microsoft's own IDE!
Who is this Fabian fella?
Proelite
Member
Was curious about this. Gets even more interesting - also says that Sony's tools and libraries are better than MS's at this point, and better integrated with Microsoft's own IDE!
Not surprised one bit. Lots of teams at MS can't make use of VS due to custom build solutions.
Mr.Monitor
Member
I figured the same thing. Last gen developers had trouble optimizing their games for the PS3. It doesn't seem like that'll be the case this time around. Pair that with the fact that the Xbox One seems like it'll have significantly weaker hardware and it seems like there's going to be trouble.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Don't be ridiculous.
If I buy five games per year and one of them is running at 30fps when I know a 60fps version exists on a console that I could've bought for (presumably) little extra cost then I'd be annoyed with myself.
Don't know why you felt the need to throw in that highly defensive comment.
UberTag
Member
In other words, developers would have an easier time developing Xbox One titles employing Sony tools than they would Microsoft tools?
Was curious about this. Gets even more interesting - also says that Sony's tools and libraries are better than MS's at this point, and better integrated with Microsoft's own IDE!
Just wow.
That's a pretty huge difference in terms of tech.
Metalmurphy
Member
It happened this gen...
Portugeezer
Member
Now?
It has always been "PS4 50% more power than Xbox One", or "Xbox One is 33% less powerful than PS4".
Means the same thing.
Exactly, variable framerate gives me a fucking headache. Lock that shit down, 30fps, 60fps, 120fps, don't fucking care. Lock it the fuck down!
UberTag
Member
That's unquestionably the case.
Microsoft has put all of their eggs into the cloud basket.
They sure love that Final Fantasy VII character. Frankly, I think they need to move on.
It's not. Don't buy in to their PR fluff. It'll still be useful for the online side of things and dedicated servers though.
Portugeezer
Member
45fps.
Well, if this comparison is any indication. . .
This chart is deceptive. It's using Xbox One's actual memory frequency, while comparing it to PS4's effective memory frequency. I wouldn't say that's a fair comparison.
someone please correct me if I'm wrong
coffeetable
Banned
It really seems like Sony is deciding to enter this generation by earnestly addressing and correcting all the major mistakes they made with hardware in the last few generations, while Microsoft is deciding to rest on its laurels and push a voice-activated tv remote into our living rooms, hoping for the best.
At this point, it appears as though the next generation will definitely be Sony's to lose. I'll be waiting for E3 to see if they take a pro-consumer stance or shoot themselves in the foot, a la Microsoft, with uncompetitive pricing and invasive DRM. Those two issues will make or break the PS4, in my opinion.
TheGreyHulk
Member
it's a case of "glass half empty vs glass half full"
if you take the power of the PS4 and divide it by the XB1 power, you get 1.5 which says the PS4 has 50% more gpu power than the XB1
if you take the power of the XB1 and divide it by the PS4's gpu power, you get .6666666 which says that the XB1 has around 33% less gpu power than the PS4
it's just looking at it in two different ways, but the overall difference remains the same.
768 shader cores for XB1 vs 1152 shader cores for PS4
thetrin
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Notch and I are in agreement.I did this yesterday, DICE, eidos Montreal guys and Notch
