My jaw literally dropped when he said "that's 8GB GDDR5" first I was like no way, then I was like Ahhhhh yeah.
Sony E3 press conference; June 10th 6PM PT/9PM ET
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My jaw literally dropped when he said "that's 8GB GDDR5" first I was like no way, then I was like Ahhhhh yeah.
Haha, fuck. I don't even remember thinking that 2GB would be the max. :lol
I was pretty adamant before the conference that there was no way they would have more than 4GB GDDR5. Oops.
SniperHunter
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yea I remember that. haha
yea! at first I thought Sony had shifted to DDR3 ram since Cerny didn't say which type of ram they were using, then moments later he reveled they were sticking with GDDR5
amazing stuff ^_^
Thanks! I'm a big fan of Yoshitaka Amano's work. But I guess you already know by now
In terms of Demon's Souls 2... the fact that Yoshida is addicted to Dark Souls gives me hope that it's true.
I highly doubt they will announce it any time soon but they would be stupid beyond belief to not do anything with it. Many people bought PS3 just to play Demon's Souls.
I highly doubt they will announce it any time soon but they would be stupid beyond belief to not do anything with it. Many people bought PS3 just to play Demon's Souls.
Dead Prince
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now that's left is the price and we can resurrect some price threads.
mysteriousmage09
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To be fair, hearing 8GB of ram for consoles in early 2011 was pretty damn ridiculous. I admit I ate crow when 8GB of GDDR5 ram was announced for PS4. I thought for sure they would counter MS with the faster ram to make up for the difference in amount, also the rumor that came true about 3GB reserved for OS shit for Xbone. Never did I expect Sony to come out of the gate and kick them right in the balls like that.
Wishmaster92
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=514454&page=73
Good times, boy was everybody surprised.
-Pyromaniac-
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I love my response to that 8 gig thread since I can always claim I wasn't being sarcastic.
not going to happen, because sony wants to retain IP if they publish the game. Unless you mean something like Gears going multi. That's different story.
Could be a big deal amoung the core crowd if Sony secured a Dark Souls 2 next gen "exclusive". I dont know what kind of relationship Sony has with Namco though overall.
My favorite was people who kept claiming MS wouldn't allow the competition to best them in hardware specs.
ULTROS!
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SONY's conference is easily the best of E3
a few betrayaltons on either side
I can't think of any betrayaltons for Sony unless it's:
1. Gears of War on PS4
2. a Dragon Quest game announced for Sony consoles
3. Mistwalker developing something for Sony consoles (which is not really a betrayalton)
4. Peter Molyneux developing something exclusively on Sony consoles
SniperHunter
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This. I had believed it was going to be 4GB up until that point. The whole fucking forum was buzzing with assurance. And then I was left stunned for about few seconds after the 8GB announcement before thinking, "but is it GDDR5? i think it'll be DDR3 like durango". Of course, about two minutes later, another shocker; GDDR5 it will be stated Cerny.
In my head I went, "wow wow wow wow...!"
Of course, after that the game "journalists" came out and were like lobotomised individuals on whom the significance of it was truly lost (actually, that extends to overall specs). This revelation during post show was the true tragedy. And on that day I learned that GAF members (most of them) have the capacity to comprehend the ramification of the tech specs far better than mainstream media (aside from DF and Anandtech).
So thank you GAF.
I can't get Star Trek out of my head.
for these two no one gives a fuck enough to be betrayaltons. Mistwalker? really?
That shifted to that "third-parties will deliberately make the PS4 game look equal to Xbone version. Microsoft won't allow their version of games to look inferior, however slight."
Meccanical
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Yeah, I admit, I didn't think next gen was going to be all that hot either.
But after hearing about all the stuff that went into the PS4, the extensive GPU customization, the 8GB of DDR5, the fact that it's an APU, I have a feeling that devs can get a lot out of this thing.
Dragon Quest may not be as big in the west, but if DQ XI gets announced for a Sony system Japan's going to need riot police. Especially if it's for the Vita.
I think more than few dozen humble pies was served and I enjoyed every moment of it. lol
Sony really isn't playing around this generation.
-Pyromaniac-
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The specs aren't even a LITTLE better, they're notably better. That's the icing on the cake to that whole discussion leading to the reveal.
SniperHunter
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I was one them. With the amount of $$ MS has, I thought they would 1up Sony for sure, but they got Cerny'ed. Kuturagi always promised bullshit, but Cerny actually delivered. I never though MS would let Sony get a way with any tech advantage, since most of the third party games ran better on their system.
Kuturagi was just crazy, he got away with the Emotion Engine nonsense on PS2, but he took Sony down with Cell and his crazy ideas. Cerny is a gamer and he is an engineer, good thing he designed PS4 around developers and not TV TV TV TV and 3 Operating systems that utilize 3 Gigs of Ram, 10% of the GPU and 2 CPU cores....
The man deserves a promotion, a boat load of cash and he should be allowed to make any game he wants.
DQ is insanely big in Japan. A game on the mainline series coming to a PS console after so many years would bring all of Japan's gaming forums down in a heartbeat.
Meccanical
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Yeah, console war discussions were smashed really early.
Unless you believe in the power of the
-Pyromaniac-
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Dragon Quest would be a big deal I think. Mistwalker title not really. Dragon Quest would probably do better on PS too, Nintendo must be paying dem big bucks to keep it lately.
The best post (which I can't find right now) which had a ban bet assigned to it was the one where the member stated that the PS4 won't be a mass produced console because Sony doesn't have the money to do so.
I think (iirc) Globox bumped it to point out the ban bet but instead got banned himself
SniperHunter
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yea it would be a hell of a lot better on PS4. An online game on Wii and Wii U...pfft what a joke. But the game is already out and it looks like crap, I don't think the PS4 audience will give it a go.
Same. There hasn't been a lot of bombs this gen cause of leaks and Sony blowing their load during the weeks before E3 so I'm really psyched to see how it turns out this year.
-Pyromaniac-
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I kind of forgot that the last normal console DQ game was 8. Man that was long ago. Since then there was 9 for handheld and then the mmo.
Square wut r u doin. Just give it to level-5 again.
We don't know how it looks on the PS4 side though. It's probably closer to 1GB than 3GB. Probably not 10% reserved and how many cores are locked is also not known yet.
We do know that 6 CPU cores were used Killzone Shadow Fall demo.
True.
mysteriousmage09
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Sony can't afford to make a console in line with the generational leap we have come to expect!
SniperHunter
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PS4 has a second chip that handles all the background data etc, I don't know too much about this stuff so someone else can enlighten us.
After watching the conferences I got the feeling PS4 was a gaming device aimed at attracting developers, while the Xbone was some sort media trojan horse.
Even if the PS4 had the same identical usage the Xbone have (which is highly unlikely) it would still have a clear advantage.
1.1TF vs 1.6TF
would still be a big difference.
Dragon Quest returning to Sony consoles would certainly be a betrayalton (against Nintendo, not MS). If DQXI was announced for PS4 in the same style as DQVIII, I and many other JRPG fans would collectively lose our shit. Of course the biggest effect would be felt in Japan, where Dragon Quest is absolutely huge.
Meccanical
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It has a second chip for OS and another GPU-like compute module thing that Digital Foundry discovered that we have no information on.
I really don't think any major amount of resources will be taken from gaming functions.
Then again who knows, time will tell.
Yeah, I was curious to see if they would share anymore info on that chip but I guess we'll all have to wait until either E3 or when it's in our hands.
I wonder what are the Japanese titles that are going to be announced for the Japan release. Announcing a title at TGS is kind of stretching it since it's so late in the year. Knack is pretty much western influence even though it's from Japan Studios. Minna no Golf maybe a launch title? Dynasty Warriors or Gundam as another? It'll be amazing if Sony has Persona 5 on PS4 for JPN launch since I expect it more of a PS3/PSVita title.
Evolution_1ne
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SniperHunter
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yes it is and in every way imaginable. I have only played PS2 for 40 hours or so, but in those 40 hours I have had more fun than I did playing warhawk and starhawk combined (didn't spend too much time on either games honestly, felt both were mediocre)
that's pretty cool! Didn't know about the second GPU module
Meccanical
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It's pretty funny that for all this talk of "secret sauce" only one console really has any.
:V
How can there be betrayaltons (plural) on either side?SONY's conference is easily the best of E3
a few betrayaltons on either side
Sony already lost everything in the current generation. FF, MGS, DMC, Tekken etc. all went multi-platform.
Microsoft's side, maybe I'm just tired right now, but the only one that would qualify as a betrayalton would be Gears of War. They have nothing else worthy of being a betrayalton.
Basically, I'm not sure how you're using the term betrayalton here. There can certainly be big exclusives, but betrayaltons doesn't make sense to me anymore. There isn't any big franchise that's still exclusive to the other console currently with the exception of Gears of War.
Mass Effect, Fallout, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Devil May Cry, BioShock, Tekken...seriously, someone help me out here. My brain isn't working. Which big Sony or Microsoft exclusive franchise is left exactly which isn't first party?
SniperHunter
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Before we forget we should remember the numerous times Aegeies had mentioned that dev confidence in the PS4 was low and that dev community in general was silent about it.
Actually that's incorrect
Actually that's incorrect
SniperHunter
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That guy is a Microsoft shill. I don't even trust that site at all, since MS gave them $750,000.
Dead Prince
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RIP Dragon Quest.
it's time to start the new generation with new ip. sure it will take awhile but they should take another chance again before everyone goes out of business!
Meccanical
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Aegies isn't biased, how dare you insinuate such a thing!
Evolution_1ne
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he was not the insider GAF deserved or the one it needed back then
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