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[JAYSIMPLE]

if these consoles cant do 1080p. oh my dear .... skipping

 

[IcyRhythms]

at what native resolution.

720p native confirmed

 

[Portugeezer]

Would have been news if it didn't, not the other way around.




Spin off, different developer, different sub-genre.

Yeah but we still needed clarification after Horizon, once one game is 30fps we can doubt whether the next will be 60fps, but good to have confirmation.

if these consoles cant do 1080p. oh my dear .... skipping

These consoles? You mean Xbone.

 

[Imperial Hot]

What? This is merely them stating that they're not changing their policy of forcing a minimum resolution.

"Some of the most beautiful games of this generation are not dictated by how many pixels they're pushing to the screen. Motion blur, antialiasing, lighting: all of these things come into play. We just give developers the tools and let them make the right creative decisions."

I don't think developers should be thinking about making concessions in development this early in the game. This is stuff that gets discussed, typically, later in the console's life cycle when you're trying to squeeze the last drop.

It's as if they are hitting a development ceiling already, which is probably not exactly the case, but to think that developers are having to scale back their vision on the "next generation of hardware" is kind of fucked.

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

60 Frames, perfect. <3


So excited for this, I love Forza! My GoTY for 2013!

I'm wishing for 1080p, I'd be disappointed with 720p, but I'd accept it. Forza Motorsport 6 for 1080p though!

 

[crozier]

if these consoles cant do 1080p. oh my dear .... skipping

Of course they can do 1080p.

Even the fastest PC on the planet can be pushed to the point where 1080p is no longer feasible if enough is thrown at it, though. There's a trade-off here. Always will be. Even next, next, next gen.

 

[Glorified G]

Majority of the games this gen should be 1080p with some being sub 1080p( think 1280x1080)

Any game next gen being 720p is laughable. It would be like having 480p games last gen --sans wii

 

[FordGTGuy]

720p native confirmed

If you're going to make comments like this you should at least back them up with evidence.

 

[qa_engineer]

open world

edit:

also, I personally don't think there is all that much difference between 720 and 1080

 

[Y2Kev]

if these consoles cant do 1080p. oh my dear .... skipping

PS4 already has major titles running at 1080p, like KZ: Shadowfall.

Resolution is the most important part of IQ.

 

[MikeE21286]

Ok, Xbox One is now looking like a shitstorm

 

[Dead Prince]

If you're going to make comments like this you should at least back them up with evidence.

more details later. maybe. hopefully. cloud

 

[Imperial Hot]

PS4 already has major titles running at 1080p, like KZ: Shadowfall.

Resolution is the most important part of IQ.

Xboned. God damn it Microsoft. I was excited for the new Xbox.

Ya dun gooft.

 

[fuzzy.dunlop]

http://i.imgur.com/RZ2g18y.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]

believe this poster. [I]qa_engineer[/I] would not steer you wrong. would he?

 

[Bebpo]

Wow, already damage controlling non-1080p.

Eek.


Though tbh, 720p with great IQ upscaled to 1080p isn't going to be noticably worse than 1080p native games on most tvs.

 

[allan-bh]

1080P 60FPS >> 720P 60FPS

Thanks for saying the obvious

 

[commedieu]

What is the actual *news* here?

Hm.

That this is the first time in history that anyone states their game runs a certain frame per second, but doesn't mention the frame resolution, then downplays resolution, after rumors about gimped hardware.

 

[Imperial Hot]

Wow, already damage controlling non-1080p.

Eek.

That's what I'm saying!!!

E3 is going to be one for the ages, let me tell ya.

 

[Projectjustice]

He brought up the fact that 360 games ran below 720p in this interview. This just tells me Forza 5 will run at 720p.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

So their first party racing game at launch isn't 1080p? Am I hearing that correctly?

lol

 

[FordGTGuy]

Spencer concluded: "Some of the most beautiful games of this generation are not dictated by how many pixels they're pushing to the screen. Motion blur, antialiasing, lighting: all of these things come into play. We just give developers the tools and let them make the right creative decisions."

Are you guys capable of taking his words out of context anymore than you are already?

I can't believe NeoGAF is allowing selective quoting, it feels like N4G in here.

 

[Cidd]

Well 60fps is good news, Even if it's at 720p the game should still look amazing.

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

i think resolution is very important. we should be pushing 1080p as standard next gen

i hope all ps4 games are 1080p

 

[dejay]

Have Sony mandated a 1080p requirement for all games?

I like my current graphics card because I can play all games at very high settings at 1080 on my TV, but I can easily see some next gen games pushing both consoles graphically to keep up with high end pcs, especially a few years into the generation.

 

[p3tran]

PS4 already has major titles running at 1080p, like KZ: Shadowfall.

Resolution is the most important part of IQ.

only talking about 60hz here though.
lets see how driveclub does

 

[FlyFaster]

60 fps > 1080p

Agreed. This is another reason I don't mind 720p.


I'd rather devs take the extra power that would be used to display in 1080p and use it for other things, like frame rate, better draw distances, more objects on screen, more effects, ect.


720 is still HD.

This was even done this generation with some games dropping below 720 in order to have a certain graphical fidelity and still run at 60fps.


edit:

1080P 60FPS >> 720P 60FPS

No shit Sherlock.

 

[soundscream]

That this is the first time in history that anyone states their game runs a certain frame per second, but doesn't mention the frame resolution, then downplays resolution, after rumors about gimped hardware.

LOL what?

Every 30FPS racer last gen after saying they ran at 30FPS didn't counter "but were running at 720p though"

 

[Shaneus]

Welcome to the official 'how to read between the lines' thread.

All 720 of them?

 

[Imperial Hot]

Are you guys capable of taking his words out of context anymore than you are already?

I can't believe NeoGAF is allowing selective quoting.

....he's using an example from this generation to illuminate the issues developers will face in the next generation..

How do you not see that? Why would he downplay the resolution of games if the Xbone wasn't having problems hitting certain resolutions? Come on.

 

[E-Cat]

''resolution is not the thing that maximises beauty."

It's not how many pixels you have, it's what's you've got under the hood that counts.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Honestly, I don't notice the difference between 720p and 1080p very much when I'm 6 feet away from a 40 inch screen, but up close it's a huge difference. This difference is greater the larger the TV of course, so it might not be a big deal for some.

Spoiler

I'm fine with 720p. Don't hate me.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Just having 60 FPS by itself isn't such a big deal.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Are you guys capable of taking his words out of context anymore than you are already?

I can't believe NeoGAF is allowing selective quoting, it feels like N4G in here.

Jumping to conclusions the thread

 

[tinfoilhatman]

Resolution is the most important part of IQ.

Anyone that says otherwise has most likely never played\seen a AAA game at 1080p

Whoever launches with the most native 1080p games will most likely get my money

 

[RdN]

Pretty much confirms that the Xbox One won't render games at native 1080p. Such a shame.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Are you guys capable of taking his words out of context anymore than you are already?

I can't believe NeoGAF is allowing selective quoting, it feels like N4G in here.

He is obviously downplaying the importance of resolution. I don't know how you can not get this.

 

[FordGTGuy]

....he's using an example from this generation to illuminate the issues developers will face in the next generation..

How do you not see that? Why would he downplay the resolution of games if the Xbone wasn't having problems hitting certain resolutions? Come on.

Spencer concluded: "Some of the most beautiful games of this generation are not dictated by how many pixels they're pushing to the screen. Motion blur, antialiasing, lighting: all of these things come into play. We just give developers the tools and let them make the right creative decisions."

He is saying they are not requiring games to be 1080p not that they can't be 1080p

 

[Can Crusher]

Fuck 720p.

1080p is like putting glasses on compared to 720p. You can also use shitty AA solutions like FXAA and MLAA without making it look like there's a coat of vaseline in the screen.

Hell give me 1080p with no AA, I'll take it over 720p with 8xAA.

 

[vio]

720p and good AA is fine on TV.

 

[dark_prinny]

 

[Raide]

Pretty much confirms that the Xbox One won't render games at native 1080p. Such a shame.

Not really. It confirms 1 developer is going for less than 1080p in order to keep 60fps and having fancy effects on it. No indication that every dev will follow suit.

 

[SpaceNun]

Well 60fps is good news, Even if it's at 720p the game should still look amazing.

You see but it won't. It will look like improved Forza 4. That isn't how you sell systems.

 

[Ravensmash]

....he's using an example from this generation to illuminate the issues developers will face in the next generation..

How do you not see that? Why would he downplay the resolution of games if the Xbone wasn't having problems hitting certain resolutions? Come on.

The concessions that developers are forced to make during creation aren't going to magically disappear because of beefier hardware - it's still static after all.

Here he's simply saying that if developers want to throw all the fancy effects and post-processing that they can muster, then they can without fear of being forced to meet a resolution quota.

 

[EvB]

Didn't timothy lotte estimate that the "framebuffer" of a movie to be about 540p?

 

[Hypron]

To me all the console games released this gen (apart from the couple of 2D ones that run at 1080p) look like a blurry mess, so I would really not be impressed if Froza 5 were to run at anything lower than 1080p. What's the point of having good graphics if you everything is blurred?

Edit:

Fuck 720p.

1080p is like putting glasses on compared to 720p. You can also use shitty AA solutions like FXAA and MLAA without making it look like there's a coat of vaseline in the screen.

Hell give me 1080p with no AA, I'll take it over 720p with 8xAA.

That's actually a very good analogy.

 

[Raide]

You see but it won't. It will look like improved Forza 4. That isn't how you sell systems.

Just like Killzone is an improved Killzone 3?
Mario Bros U is is an improved Mario Bros?

 

[UrbanRats]

60 fps > 1080p

It really depends on the game.
In a racer, yeah i guess.

 

[Dance Inferno]

Horizon dropped to 30FPS.

Speaking of which, where's my Horizon 2? I'm not really interested in Forza 5.

 

[Jburton]

That statement says one thing ....... Our box is visibily weaker than the PS4, people are not stupid enough to believe the cloud will actually improve things .......... so graphics are not everything.

I wonder how different this standpoint is compared to the talk around and during the 360.

 

[Monty Mole]

I'd take 60fps 720p over 30fps 1080p, so I'm glad they're not forcing resolution requirements.