Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

We don't know the exact verbiage he gave Gematsu; "Animal Crossing Guy" was how Gematsu wrote it on GAF. Really, how else would one understand who he was talking about. If you just said "Villager," nobody would understand.

Mind you, even guessing the AC protag in the first place is crazy: The prevailing wisdom prior to the Direct was that AC protags were off the table, as per Sakurai's past comments that it wouldn't seem appropriate to include them. So no one was even guessing Villager/AC Guy in the first place.

And again, the most telling aspect: Wii Fit Trainer.

No, I don't disagree with any of that. I'm only saying that as far as we can tell, the Villager's proper name wasn't leaked. Whether the original source got it right or not is irrelevant because it was wrong in the leak that we got. It's obvious that his information was correct; I was just nitpicking that one detail.
 
As much as it would never happen, I would like for some actual underwater fighting.

You never know. The new underwater driving in Mario Kart 7/8 seems like the perfect thing to incorporate into a stage. A Starfy stage would also work well if the Smash team wants to acknowledge the franchise in a meaningful way.
 
Lol, it's not going to. They would have to create Skyloft from scratch again and there's no way that's happening. They pretty much imported the model from Skyward Sword, that's why it's the same.

In fact... Project M beat them to the punch on that and did it the exact same way; just imported the model from Skyward Sword. (shameless advertising on my part LOL)

OBVIOUSLY it's not the exact same stage design, but it does "tour" Skyloft.
To be fair the imported model in SSB4 looks like the 'main' version of Skyloft you see when you're actually there. The much lower-poly and feature-less version you see when you're flying around is what Project M uses, unless I'm remembering wrong.

EDIT: Or hell maybe they are the exact same model. Somebody needs a clearer screenshot of both than just a zoomed out compressed shot from both to tell.
 
And for the new page, a image direct comparison of the Skyloft stages.



Same exact model because both are merely imported. Stage design is obviously different.

I remember watching the trailer and just thinking of Project M when the Skyloft stage appeared. It seems like the Smash 4 version will actually land on Skyloft itself, though.
 
To be fair the imported model in SSB4 looks like the 'main' version of Skyloft you see when you're actually there. The much lower-poly and feature-less version you see when you're flying around is what Project M uses, unless I'm remembering wrong.

*shrugs* Both are imported from the game is the point.
 
With what we've seen this far I think the roster is going to shatter people's expectations in a good way. Sakurai seems to be playing give them the characters they never knew they wanted.
Megaman not counting.
 
The point isn't about the amount of characters to revealed at E3 but rather which characters.
PR plans can change. Even on short notice.

Especially considering the source of information even nailed down the official names of all these characters (in particular "Wii Fit Trainer" and "Villager") - given how ambiguous the names of these characters have been up to this point, and some keep calling the Wii Fit Trainer "Wii Fit Girl" or whatever, it should show that there's something up.

It would be quite the uncanny coincidence otherwise.

True only time will tell for the rest. And Sakurai also seemed to want the newcomers split into their own separate trailer so he could have decided who he wanted to reveal then and there. Man, it feels good to know we are probably going to get little trailers for each newcomer. I think we agreed that would be a great way to reveal them awhile back.

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Sakurai, smh, you are a true artist.


I'm liking her style more and more :l what wrong with me? I like how some of her smashes are like rigid stances. I can't put my finger on the style. At the same time she's also agile.
 
Do we know when information is next coming? Sakurai came up to Iwata himself, so he must have ideas. He's not the guy to go the easy route on a sequel. The fact that we haven't seen anything more unpredictable than character inclusions suggests to me that there's a lot we've yet to hear.

I can't tell if you guys are joking with this subject... they're going to include as many characters as they have the time and budget for. The number of new characters is a vague goal that may change with time. We remember the cut characters on the Brawl disc right?

We have no idea how early those characters were cut. The only data that could be found was Mewtwo's Final Smash sound. Smash N64 had Final Smash sounds as well as the announcer saying "Build a Stage!". Melee had Ditto's model.
 
With what we've seen this far I think the roster is going to shatter people's expectations in a good way. Sakurai seems to be playing give them the characters they never knew they wanted.
Megaman not counting.

Well an Animal Crossing character was also heavily requested.

I'm totally down for more picks like WFT though.
 
I'll live, but Waluigi is a pretty lazily designed character whose existence revolves soley around Mario spin-offs. I'd vastly prefer a Wario Ware character or Syrup for a 2nd Wario rep and even though Waluigi probably counts more as a Mario character thats dumb in-itself. Wario's brother/partner-in-crime literally never shows up in a Wario game!

Most of the possible Mario reps left are boring really. Not anger-inspiring since they'll all be fun to play as (probably), but there's a reason why I went for someone stupid and obviously not happening like Geno in my Smash roster in the prediction thread. He or Fawful or a Paper Mario rep (who isn't literally 'Paper' Mario, that'd be a pointless addition on the level of Dr. Mario IMO) have far more character and moveset potential than a ton of different Mario/Peach/Wario/Bowser recolors do, though sadly only a fraction of the popularity.
 
Baby Bowser is more prominently featured in the Mario games, but Waluigi is the better character. Not really a big fan of either, though

Daisy? Bowser jr? Big stretch IMO and Rosalina?

Throw him in as a wario rep

Toad? Rosalina? Daisy? Bowser Jr.?

Not that I would dislike Waluigi (I made a fanmade moveset for him after all lol), but still wouldn't call him the only character missing from the Mario crew. :P



Agreed!

yeeea.....no. Just no. I'd rather have Bowser Jr? Maybe even Rosalina to rep the Galaxy games.

Damn didnt think if get hanged for that one lol.
I guess I can see where everyone is getting at though. With Mario there definitely is a lot of reps that can be used and probably deserve a slot.
 
I don't hate him, but I would pick so many other characters over Waluigi. Even Daisy would be better than Waluigi. Keep him as an assist trophy.



They taste delicious. :p

Daisy only if she's based around the strikers design. Since that's easily the best daisy we've gotten.
 
Waluigi Hate Really?
He's the only character really missing from the Mario group. I think he deserves a spot.

His reveal should start out with luigi celebrating his year of luigi with mario and friends, then waluigi comes in and crashes the party saying, "year of luigi?! (then its year of(?))WALUIGI!"

Or something like that...
 
And for the new page, a image direct comparison of the Skyloft stages.



Same exact model because both are merely imported. Stage design is obviously different.
it makes me wonder what was in development first, the Smash 4 stage and Project M just happened to have this stage as well? Or the devs seeing it and making their own for Smash 4 as a result
Shrek is love, Shrek is life.

Go back to Shrekchan

god why do I even know of that site
 
you guys are forgetting the absolute best possible Namco inclution

wich happens to be my SAKURAI PLS #3

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"The Prince rolls into battle!"
 
Now lets talk about some characters changes that are needed(want)

Falco's blaster needs the flinching gone. It's too easily spamable/good.
 
Pick Daisy over Waluigi? Has she... done anything? Waluigi was at least amusing in the Camelot Mario sports games intros, which gives him like 1/100th of a point, but why Daisy?
 
Pick Daisy over Waluigi? Has she... done anything? Waluigi was at least amusing in the Camelot Mario sports games intros, which gives him like 1/100th of a point, but why Daisy?

Luigi deserves his special lady too...or they can give peach an actual model change like in melee for daisy.
 
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