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Um, my purple Sonic was not just a simple color edit, it was my original character Plonic.

And I'm not purple Tails! I'm my own original character Plails!

 

[Revven]

Wha? I doubt an HD Collection would harm sales of the next Smash Bros.

Nintendo would see it that way. I don't believe as such either but you know how crazy Nintendo is...

 

[NeonZ]

Not that I really care about making custom clothes, but with how popular Brawl texture modding is, it would've been a popular feature.

Aside from Sakurai's given reply, I think it'd be just impractical. They'd pretty much need to build various customization pieces for each character individually, considering how different their bodies/builds are.

Considering how we haven't even gotten standard alternate costumes yet for everyone, which would be a single extra model, it'd be a pretty big step to add actual customization, which would involved basically the equivalent of multiple alternate models in the end when you add up the outfit pieces.

I just hope we get standard pre-set alternate costumes this time, rather than just color swaps.

 

[Rayis]

I've participated in taunt matches, I'm part of the problem, but it was fun trolling the other person who actually wanted to fight, yes I'm terrible I know LOL

 

[1upmuffin]

Maybe Smash 4 customization will be hats like TF2. Not everyone can wear costumes but everyone can wear hats.

 

[Troubled Bat]

I got it! Custom Colors! .... This whole customization is bothering me, what could it possibly be?

 

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Nintendo would see it that way. I don't believe as such either but you know how crazy Nintendo is...

If Nintendo really believes that then they're ridiculous. I mean yeah sure there will always be someone who just wants 64/Melee/Brawl in HD or Online and nothing more but that's likely the minority. I'm sure almost everyone who buys the HD collection will have the intention of buying the next installment. Who knows? They might even get some newcomers introduced to the series with the collection. It'd be a win-win if that's the right way to put it.

 

[1upmuffin]

If they were to do a HD collection I'd like it to be an HD remix type thing. Have the gameplay from Melee with characters from Brawl/Melee, and stages from all the games. (I actually just want Project M with good online play)

 

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If they were to do a HD collection I'd like it to be an HD remix type thing. Have the gameplay from Melee with characters from Brawl/Melee, and stages from all the games. (I actually just want Project M with good online play)

That would be aweso-

OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO GAF

EDIT: Nevermind, all back to normal.


EDIT2: I jinxed it.

 

[1upmuffin]

That would be aweso-

OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO GAF

It keeps going back and forth between messed up and regular for me.

 

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It keeps going back and forth between messed up and regular for me.

Same here. It's kind of crazy...

 

[Spring-Loaded]

GAF in its purest form

 

[Starphoenix]

Been reading Sakurai's interview about removing characters. Interesting that he hasn't had to remove anyone yet, makes me wonder if he's tentatively worked something with Sega and Konami. No guarantee, but maybe it's a good sign.

 

[1upmuffin]

Been reading Sakurai's interview about removing characters. Interesting that he hasn't had to remove anyone yet, makes me wonder if he's tentatively worked something with Sega and Konami. No guarantee, but maybe it's a good sign.

Sonic being exclusive to Nintendo consoles for a few years makes it seem like he will almost definitely be in. With Snake I think Sakurai and Kojima are friends so I would think he would be back as well.

 

[Not]

Sakurai specifically denied custom clothes, because they could make the characters look generic. It's something else.

At this point, I'm expecting something like the stickers in Brawl, but balanced for multiplayer.

By "customized clothes," I'm pretty sure he didn't rule out fixed alternate costumes. But yeah, no shirt swapping unless you're, you know, Ness or something

 

[Not]

Brawl online was dreadful, and I'm not expecting much from Smash 4. There will be no matchmaking and people will continue to just taunt.

Where was it confirmed there'd be no matchmaking? How do you know? You think it'll be all completely random again?

 

[Vidiot]

Sonic being exclusive to Nintendo consoles for a few years makes it seem like he will almost definitely be in. With Snake I think Sakurai and Kojima are friends so I would think he would be back as well.

I just wonder how long we'll have to wait to know for sure. I mean will they do special trailers for Sonic and Snake again even though they were in the last game? I'm just curious how it's going to play out,, especially with the dojo being sort of deconfirmed. I really hope we don't have to wait too long to find out if they're returning. If we get bad news about them not returning I'd rather know now instead of going through months of anticipation to only be hit with a huge disappointment bomb close to release. It would really put a damper on the whole game for me.

 

[1upmuffin]

Where was it confirmed there'd by no matchmaking? How do you know? You think it'll be all completely random again?

Name a Nintendo game with skill matchmaking.

Also, @Vidiot, I don't think every character will have a reveal video, only certain new ones.

EDIT: Page king two pages in a row. "You're too slow"

 

[Berordn]

Name a Nintendo game with skill matchmaking.

Also, @Vidiot, I don't think every character will have a reveal video, only certain new ones.

EDIT: Page king two pages in a row. "You're too slow"

Mario Kart?

 

[Starphoenix]

I just wonder how long we'll have to wait to know for sure. I mean will they do special trailers for Sonic and Snake again even though they were in the last game? I'm just curious how it's going to play out,, especially with the dojo being sort of deconfirmed. I really hope we don't have to wait too long to find out if they're returning. If we get bad news about them not returning I'd rather know now instead of going through months of anticipation to only be hit with a huge disappointment bomb close to release. It would really put a damper on the whole game for me.

Considering Sakurai's unwillingness to talk about character removals, I assume we won't hear anything about that until closer to release. I'd like to believe we wouldn't have to wait that long to find out, but we probably will. The way Sakurai keeps referencing Sonic every time the topic of third party characters come up is probably in his benefit.

 

[Vidiot]

Name a Nintendo game with skill matchmaking.

Also, @Vidiot, I don't think every character will have a reveal video, only certain new ones.

EDIT: Page king two pages in a row. "You're too slow"

I don't think every returning character will either, but I figure third party characters should get some special treatment. Be they veteran or new comer.

 

[1upmuffin]

Mario Kart?

Ah, forgot new Mario Kart's did. Well there's hope then. Still hoping for ranked 1v1 mode.

 

[Not]

Ah, forgot new Mario Kart's did. Well there's hope then. Still hoping for ranked 1v1 mode.

Courage. Namco's prior online work is superlative

 

[Tan]

Name a Nintendo game with skill matchmaking.

Also, @Vidiot, I don't think every character will have a reveal video, only certain new ones.

EDIT: Page king two pages in a row. "You're too slow"

Super Mario Strikers Charged I think? I remember the online for that game being surprisingly incredible. But yeah I don't expect much either.

 

[Hieberrr]

I just played Project M on Special 300% for 2 hours and, holy moly it's fast as hell. One of the best things about it is respawning takes a second.

The stages are super dull though. Everything is pretty much the same and is built for tournament play.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I just played Project M on Special 300% for 2 hours and, holy moly it's fast as hell. One of the best things about it is respawning takes a second.

The stages are super dull though. Everything is pretty much the same and is built for tournament play.

I gotta to give that a try.

 

[DasMarcos]

I gotta to give that a try.

Yeah definitely do! You won't be disappointed friend.

 

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I just played Project M on Special 300% for 2 hours and, holy moly it's fast as hell. One of the best things about it is respawning takes a second.

The stages are super dull though. Everything is pretty much the same and is built for tournament play.

I still don't like what they did to Green Hill Zone. Stripped out its characteristics in favor of a really flat tiny level (we already have Final Destination and it was way better and not tiny, why do this?). I miss the slopes, the bridge and the evil checkpoint!

But yeah, cool mod otherwise though.

 

[1upmuffin]

I just played Project M on Special 300% for 2 hours and, holy moly it's fast as hell. One of the best things about it is respawning takes a second.

The stages are super dull though. Everything is pretty much the same and is built for tournament play.

I really like most of the stages...

 

[Anth0ny]

Where was it confirmed there'd be no matchmaking? How do you know? You think it'll be all completely random again?

IGN: Smash Bros. is a very competitive series, but you have avoided detailed online stat tracking and leader board ranking systems for Brawl. Why is that?

Masahiro Sakurai: Well, I'm sure that people hitting ranks one through 10, were there such a ranking system, would be incredibly pleased with it and having a lot of fun. But, you know, it's not fun for everybody involved per se if such a system were to exist. I was asked this time around to try and get Wi-Fi into the game and so certainly we've managed to get wireless battles so you can play with people in other places. But it's really a game in my mind that has been designed to be played with a smaller group of people -- be that a group of friends or within your house a group of family members -- competing in the small circles and not really worrying about winning and losing so much as the process that gets you there. That is where the fun should hopefully be for a lot of people. It can also be kind of trying and painful for some people who want to be at the top and think that they're really good at Smash and they look at their online ranking and they're the one-hundred-thousandth best Smash Bros. player -- those are some of the reasons I've decided not to go with leader boards.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Yeah a lot of the stages in PM are pretty same-y. Hell, even the "new" Battlefield looks shit.

Then again I already said what I think of PM.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Yeah a lot of the stages in PM are pretty same-y. Hell, even the "new" Battlefield looks shit.

Then again I already said what I think of PM.

How many times do you change your avatar?! It trips me out every time.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

It can also be kind of trying and painful for some people who want to be at the top and think that they're really good at Smash and they look at their online ranking and they're the one-hundred-thousandth best Smash Bros. player -- those are some of the reasons I've decided not to go with leader boards.

I do not comprehend. It's like he's utterly opposed to any kind of competition whatsoever, which I guess makes me understand why he thought tripping would be a good idea and is totally in line with why he said he implemented the Smash Ball in that Kotaku interview.

That's fine, I guess. I feel that there's room in the market for another game like SSB focused at competitive play but I don't think anyone's tried.

 

[Kokonoe]

.....

It sounds like he's making this game for himself, at least that's how it comes across as.

 

[TheRedSnifit]

Name a Nintendo game with skill matchmaking.

Mario Strikers Charged?

EDIT: beat

 

[Professor Beef]

I think the best thing to do is ignore anything Sakurai says about Brawl or competition or hurt feelings.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

I think the best thing to do is ignore anything Sakurai says about Brawl or competition or hurt feelings.

I've learned this years ago lol.. The same goes for the rest of Nintendo; they just do whatever they want despite their competition.

 

[Forever]

.....

It sounds like he's making this game for himself, at least that's how it comes across as.

He won SSF2 tournaments in his youth. He plays two characters at the same time with one hand each. Melee wasn't an accident.

http://kotaku.com/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bro-530744390

But that's not to say that I don't appreciate very high-level competitive play, the type of very refined competitive gameplay that happens in other fighting games. Personally, I have a lot of experience playing in the arcade scene, and personally came out as a champion of a 100-person battle in arcade Street Fighter II. ... So I don't wanna ignore that there's that type of pleasure to be had from the game.

I mean, accusing him of being bad at his own game? Come the fuck on.

 

[Kokonoe]

He won SSF2 tournaments in his youth. He plays two characters at the same time with one hand each. Melee wasn't an accident.

http://kotaku.com/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bro-530744390


I mean, accusing him of being bad at his own game? Come the fuck on.

I don't recall saying he was bad at his own game, and what I meant was is that his intentions behind certain things flabbergasts me at how silly it is.

So how about you "come on".

 

[Mpl90]

Isn't this what he said for Brawl? I don't remember any statement like that for SSB4

 

[DICKS AHOY]

.....

It sounds like he's making this game for himself, at least that's how it comes across as.

... It's a quote from an interview he did at 2008's GDC about the last game, jesus christ people (and Anthony).

 

[PaulExcellent]

How many times do you change your avatar?! It trips me out every time.

They just get sexier.

 

[HK-47]

That's one way to look at it. But on the other hand, if you don't at least try your best to account for the high-end as well, you may end up with similar results.

For Brawl to be the antithesis of Melee, it's still a pretty damn technical game in its own right. And as time went on, various "tricks" were found that I'm sure 90% of players can't do (for example: Lucas' various "WaveBouncing/B-Sticking"-related tricks).

This is why I'm hoping that the Gundam Vs. series director can really lend some aid to Sakurai in this area. Gundam Vs. got to where it is (aka consistently topping Arcade charts in Japan) not because it's a game that only hardcore players play. Damn near everybody plays it, and the series always does an excellent job of making it so anybody can play it and enjoy on their respective level of play.

And the big thing is no matter how much you try to eradicated high end tactics, they will always be there, it more efficient or novel use of a basic feature of the gameplay or a glitch or quirk on the systems or engine.

Of course a deep game (unintentional or not) is only as good as its basic systems. And Brawl had a few that were awful.

 

[Anth0ny]

oh I thought everyone knew about that quote, of course it's old and about brawl. nothing has been said about smash 4's online as of yet. sorry if it was misleading.

that being said... I hope Sakurai's thoughts on the matter have changed since then, but I'm not all that optimistic.

 

[GAMERG0D]

Why can't he just do a thing like Halo 3 did where there's a social playlist and a ranked playlist? Everybody wins.

 

[Professor Beef]

Why can't he just do a thing like Halo 3 did where there's a social playlist and a ranked playlist? Everybody wins.

Because somewhere, someone will be sad.

 

[JBtheHunter]

... It's a quote from an interview he did at 2008's GDC about the last game, jesus christ people (and Anthony).

Some people just like to be upset I guess.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Yeah holy shit at people bringing up an old quote. You guys.

Sakurai ain't perfect (anti-aging aside) but you guys make me look at the Smash fandom a lot worse than it is.

How many times do you change your avatar?! It trips me out every time.

Occasionally.

Don't you want buff Greymon?

 

[Troubled Bat]

Sakurai ain't perfect (anti-aging aside.)


Occasionally.

Don't you want buff Greymon?

Sakurai doesn't compete with Araki. Hah.

Much rather have Growlmon.

Spoiler

Are we enemies?

 

[Kokonoe]

Why can't we just have normal Growlmon? huh?! IS HE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!?