The Zelda manga is less canonical than the Muppits Christmas Carol.
Futanari? That would only lead to a good nights sleep.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Whoa, sex TF in Zelda manga? That's weird.
But of course. It just doesn't help that there's an official portrayal out there that has this happen and there's still no straight answer on it from OoT because actually giving one would just delve into the realm of creeps.
Red Arremer
Member
So, y'all think we might see a new reveal @ Gamescom?
Considering it's 2 months after E3, seems possible we might get a new stage &/or character shown off. Either that or TGS, which is the month after.
Shadow Hog
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Troubled Bat
Member
Unlikely at TGS as Nintendo never goes there.
I'd like to bring up Sakurai's old Famitsu articles again because it's sort of interesting to see how his thought process has changed since the days of Brawl:
Animal Crossing
Wii Fit
Nintendogs
Brain Age
Wii Sports
- Nintendo hasn't introduced a character-based series since Pikmin (I guess by "Nintendo" he's really only counting their internal studios)
- He says Brain Age, Wii Sports, and Wii Fit were big recent hits, but "I couldn't exactly turn the Wii Balance Board into a Smash Bros. fighter"
- Unless Nintendo were to introduce new action games, the amount of new characters suitable for a Smash Bros. sequel would be low
- Animal Crossing was the only character-based series since Melee besides Pikmin that he considered, but he didn't think Animal Crossing characters would fit the violent nature of Smash Bros., though he jokes about making a move set using a net and shovel
Nintendogs
Brain Age
Wii Sports
Well a gaffer posted that he expects Little Mac, Animal Crossing guy, Mega Man, Wii Fit Trainer, and Mii to be in the game, and this was a day before Nintendo's E3.
So yeah, Little Mac and Mii are pretty much confirmed.
Xenoblade counts right?
They've had a bunch of new IPs since 2008 though. E-Shop characters aside, there was Last Story, Xenoblade, Zangeki, and Pandora's Tower are all Nintendo owned. They've also added characters to existing IPs that he can work off of.
Neon_Icarus
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The whole "Sheik now has boobs thing" (in Brawl) seems like a request from some big producer guy at NOA, so that their beloved family franchises don't have sexually ambivalent, or "perverted" characters in them.
See also Animal Crossing and Birdo/Catherine.
Lol.
See also Animal Crossing and Birdo/Catherine.
Lol.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
How bout turnin sum dem assist trophies into characters eh sakurai?
LouieGeetoo
Member
It's not in all situations, granted. Just way too many. When dodging or attacking like in the screens I was referencing, it shouldn't have the "neutral" (but not really neutral, given that we humans see a smile) expression going on. It's not respectful to the character's history.
Smash Bros. has a history of mainly focusing on first-party stuff, though. Pokémon, Kirby, and Fire Emblem are all immensely popular series and have sold millions of copies, whereas something like Pandora's Tower is a standalone game that flew under the radar and isn't likely to be seen again. I'm not saying it's impossible -- I'm obviously not Sakurai and I can't speak to his intentions -- but those kind of second-party standalone titles seem best suited to Assist Trophies and other minor cameos. Actually, I think Ice Climber is the only playable franchise in Smash Bros. with a single game, but that was only included because Sakurai wanted a classic NES character.
What happened with Animal Crossing and Birdo?
each character gaining another move and not being forced to switch between them
how disappointing
Neon_Icarus
Member
In Japan, Birdo is transgender (girl with male bits). As for AC, one effeminate giraffe guy (Gracie?) was made female for the US version.
NoA loves them traditional gender roles.
Vermillion
Banned
I've seen too many people think it was a good idea to switch mid-battle. Too easy - full-charged smash in their face.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
It would be disappointing. The point of the character is the switching ability. Take that away and you just have three more characters. And switching has to have a downside. What Pokemon Trainer gains in versatility, he has to lose somewhere else (stamina, auto switch on death, etc).
this guy knows what's up.
I hope NOE is not doing the same.
We should atleast have to the option to either use Pokemon Trainer with all three or only use a single pokemon and give them a new b-down.
Options are always good.
Saharah, the camel that sells you carpets and wall designs, is also a male in the Japanese version. Her role is pretty gender neutral, but she has long eyelashes (like a camel) so I guess they thought Americans would consider the character female.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
Because there has to be a downside to the massive amounts of versatility. Also adds complexity and raises the skill ceiling for the character, but in a subtle way. The player has to both internally track the stamina and also plan around it.
Freezie KO
Banned
They could simply balance the existing mechanics for Pokémon Trainer. Have stamina, so you're forced to switch out, but make the pokeball switch animation significantly faster so switching doesn't mean automatic death.
NOE on seems to keep mum on the Birdo issue often seemingly switching between the two. One could argue whenever they refer to Birdo as she they are doing the correct thing and politely referring to someone who identifies as a woman female.
Gracie at least in the English script is male, but we just get NOA's script so that is of no surprise.
no, it's not as fun anymore... just Sakurai posting a daily screenshot on Miiverse.
Just needs to be balanced a bit better, but I totally agree. It's unique and fun and fully embodies what a pokemon trainer would do in real battle. There ARE consequences in the pokemon game for randomly switching your pokemon, you are FORCED to use another pokemon upon them fainting. It's incredibly faithful to the pokemon series and as such is very unique and fits the smash universe wonderfully. Just because on an extremely competitive level this can be a disadvantage doesnt mean it's not a wonderful idea for casual smash bros play.
Maybe we need to abandon the idea that every character should be balanced for top tier play and just accept that because of different design philosophies behind some characters, not all of them will work in top tier gameplay.
Neon_Icarus
Member
Well, I think they are. But (I hope) it's because these localisation decisions were made long before NoE had much autonomy on such things.
They did release the famously "gay" Tingle game in Europe...Not that it necessarily means anything.
We're also WAYYYY too early for real dojo updates. The dojo didn't start updating w/ 1+ post a day w/ actual information until about 7 months before original planned release (9 months before japanese release), so unless Smash 4 is coming out in january, we still have a while before daily dojo updates.
Snowden's Secret
Banned
That's a shame. I remember obsessively checking the Dojo every night at like midnight for the little update. It seems like they were doing those for the better part of the year. Really helped me get more interested in the game before it was actually released. Shame Brawl was a little disappointing compared to Melee.
:lol
Someone needs to warn Matthew about the real unstoppables:Donnie, Nah
Frederick loses to his bad exp growth....and hammers on lunatic lol.
exactly what versatility does pokemon trainer have
all three characters suck
the LEAST they could do for that character is drop the stamina gimmick, if not switching between three pokemon altogether.
Sakurai said they wouldn't be doing Dojo updates this time around though