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Vita TV is mildly interesting since it plays Vita games and you can use it to stream PS4 to a different TV in the house.

Sucks that some vita games won't work due to the lack of touchpad on the DS3. Maybe they'll patch in DS4 support eventually since it has a touch pad.

I could see possibly picking one up down the road if there's enough vita games on PS+ I want to play that are supported. Still no interest in a Vita as I'm just not into portable gaming.

 

[shinobi602]

Don't be like that shin.

Spoiler

I want a black one too

Everything has to match in my entertainment center

 

[goonergaz]

Has anyone done the math yet? PS4 + Vita TV (or as I'm calling it 'PS4 anywhere' = same price as XBO.

That's simply amazing value.

You not only get your PS4, you get to play it anywhere on any TV (with a decent internet connection)...I hope they do a PS4 bundle.

 

[jmdajr]

Unfortunately I have an older sound system without HDMI. Hmm maybe time to upgrade...

It's a lot cheaper now. It be worth it.

 

[Cyrus365]

Wonder if Sony while making us gamers happy, harmed themselves a bit, rather than people buying two PS4 for different parts of the house.

Will now buy a PS4 and this device instead to do the same thing.

 

[chickdigger802]

It's also aimed at people buying PS4s and will work with that controller, too.

maybe... idk. the situations where you want to stream your ps4 at 720p and input lag somewhere around the house... pretty slim.

And all the indie games coming to vita... are also coming to ps4 (or/and ps3).


It's a strange device indeed lol. seems like sony just put a sampler plate of all kinds of weird bait on the line, and hope that someone will bite the line.

 

[plagiarize]

Unfortunately I have an older sound system without HDMI. Hmm maybe time to upgrade...

I was hoping to plug this right into my monitor at home to use the PS4 from my desk and my Vita stuff on a monitor, but that doesn't have speakers so I may have to reconsider picking one up. Ho hum.

 

[gdt]

Yeah I'm getting this. This is pretty awesome. Uncharted GA and whatever other Vita only games I want: Here I Come.

 

[gruenel]

Possibly data rate. 1080p over wifi may be limited to a low FPS.

802.11ac has improved data rates over n, but I don't see that chip included.

802.11n is more than enough for 1080p streaming (unless your signal is really shitty). They must have other reasons.

 

[SpikedGunner]

...yea, I'm buying this. I like it!

 

[KennyLinder]

Awesome way of playing PSOne imports through HDMI

 

[jmdajr]

Stupid question, but this has wifi n right?

 

[shandy706]

Well....what....huh?

This is pretty cool...ESPECIALLY....at $100!

It certainly can't go with me into the field like my Vita, but it does mean I can get any PS3/PS4 ports and a ton of PS1/PS2/PSP games on a TV without the PS3 or PS4.

Awesome!

(I'm sure that's not what Sony intends...I apologize to them for that.)

When do we get it in the US?????

 

[omg_mjd]

I beg to differ. Why would anybody buy this over a PS3?

After the PS4 launches, Sony isn't going to devote any resources to PS3 software development anymore (although third-parties are still likely to support the PS3 for some time).

The PS3 has a great existing library, but going forward the only two options for new first-party content will be the PS4 and the Vita(TV).

 

[spacemonkeynation]

So all these nay-sayers here don't understand how price factors into things? How daft do you have to be to say things like, "Why would anyone get this over a PS3?" or "Won't this cut into Vita sales?"

Come on guys, use that thing between your ears.

 

[Gamerloid]

The Vita made most of its profit in the memory cards and software, which this also uses. Since this is pretty much a Vita processor in a box with streaming technology, it saves a ton on the screens, control inputs, and all that nasty stuff. The portable Vita will still serve its purpose, and will probably sell better once this comes out, with more people owning actual Vita software.

True. Portable Vita is for me, but I won't rule this out down the road since its so cheap and they'll be some Vita games other will want to watch me play.

Vita is doing poorly, so I do hope this does well and helps Devs support vita more. Nintendo needs competition in the handheld market so they can also make powerful handhelds like the Vita.

 

[Trogdor1123]

The big Vita push at Gamescon makes more sense now. My question is if this will eat into PS4 sales or vice versa though. Maybe im missing something but what is the point of this?

 

[Herb Alpert]

Yeah I'm getting this. This is pretty awesome. Uncharted GA and whatever other Vita only games I want: Here I Come.

well... read some of the previous posts...

 

[gruenel]

Stupid question, but this has wifi n right?

Yes.

 

[Father_Brain]

It really seems like it's for the west. So of course it's launching in Japan first.

I'm somewhat skeptical largely because of the total failure that has followed previous Sony attempts at using Playstation to compete with Apple (does this thing have an IR port? It better be universal remote compatible if it wants to be a serious media box), but the pricing this time is decent and the PS4 Remote Play does potentially make it make sense for a bedroom purchase, even if the Vita aspect never gets used.

I don't think it's an obvious preordained success, but it also doesn't have the PSPGo's obvious doomed-from-the-start aura.

Yeah, this is fair.

I just don't see Vita's own library as being that compelling a mass-market selling point, especially outside Japan, given that it appeals mainly to the type of person who would be among the most likely to already own a PS3.

 

[Goldrusher]

Introducing the PlayStation Vita TV.

No screen.
No controls.
No touchpad.
No camera.
No microphone.
No Uncharted.
No Resistance.
No Gravity Rush.
No WipEout.
No LittleBigPlanet.
No Assassin's Creed.

It only does nothing.

Only $99.99.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Someone needs to tweet yosp and find out if they plan to patch titles like Uncharted and Gravity Rush.

 

[xJavonta]

not half.

if you don't have a ps3, you'd need to get a ps3 controller, which ain't cheap.

Comes with one.

 

[Bailers]

I beg to differ. Why would anybody buy this over a PS3? Ridiculous idea. Despite the GAF circlejerking, this is probably going to bomb spectacularly. Sony still doesn't realize that the Vita's biggest problem is its lack of compelling software.

Whenever I see this, I just really wonder what compelling software people want before they stop posting this garbage. Indies? Check. FPS? Check. Platformers? Check. Driving and Sport? Check check.

Seriously, what do people think is missing from the VITA library? Oh it doesn't have a COD or BF4? So what?

 

[Raoh]

Streams PS4 to another TV in my house? BOUGHT.

This. Is it wifi enabled too? I'm not running a cable into my bedroom.

Also, did I see an upgraded Dualshock 3? Those L2/R2 buttons look different.

 

[sajj316]

Thought I read somewhere that touchscreen can be simulated using DS3 .. L3/R3?

True?

 

[QaaQer]

802.11n is more than enough for 1080p streaming (unless your signal is really shitty). They must have other reasons.

maybe vita hardware just isn't up to the job?

 

[Killing_Joke]

Holy shit. Remote Play is going to be fucking sick. Plug and Play your PS4 anywhere? Insane. Day 1.

 

[Jburton]

Introducing the PlayStation Vita TV.

No screen.
No controls.
No touchpad.
No camera.
No microphone.
No Uncharted.
No Resistance.
No Gravity Rush.
No WipEout.
No LittleBigPlanet.
No Assassin's Creed.

It only does nothing.

Only $99.99.

Went right over your head ... eh?

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

It's a very cool device but kind of makes no sense. A lot of the Vita games are already on the PS3, a lot are console ports, and the reason for the Vita is for portability.

Like I said, kind of makes no sense.

 

[BronsonLee]

Easier, maybe. That HDMI signal might be HDCP protected.

I'd be more surprised if the signal wasn't protected. PS3 is blocked whole hog, compared to MS where it's just the video playing part.

To the people saying this doesn't help Vita as a platform: It kinda does. It's another reason to develop for it, another way to hook people in.

Talking about it in another thread, someone had a great idea: What if they retrofit the VitaOS into their SmartTV platforms for the high end Bravias and such? Bake it into the TVs?

I view this thing as either a really easy entry device into gaming/streaming with Sony, or a companion device with PS4. Either way it's a neat idea. Execution, though...

 

[No Love]

Bought, day 1. Good show, Sony.

 

[exmachina64]

I haven't posted on GAF for a week and won't be posting here for a while. I probably shouldn't even be here now because my intentions aren't all that pure.



First off: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=75509751&postcount=75


The people who gave me shit in that thread can eat it.

Thank you, BasedMortimer. Sorry to hear you're leaving and the circumstances. You will be missed.

On topic:

Looks like I'm buying a Vita TV.

 

[BigDug13]

Unfortunately I have an older sound system without HDMI. Hmm maybe time to upgrade...

Yeah honestly, the lack of HDMI on your stereo is only going to become more and more of an annoyance as time moves on. These new game systems almost didn't get spdif support...

And it looks like Vita TV is another casualty of dropping SPDIF

 

[schwabdizzle]

Damn I can stream PS4 games on another TV is fucking HUGE.

 

[spacemonkeynation]

Posted?

Wait. Where's the remote? Sony, don't screw this up. That's just dumb to not include a remote!

 

[Newline]

If you use the PS Vita as a controller for this thing, will you be able to use the full list of PS Vita titles.

 

[Raoh]

Introducing the PlayStation Vita TV.

No screen.
No controls.
No touchpad.
No camera.
No microphone.
No Uncharted.
No Resistance.
No Gravity Rush.
No WipEout.
No LittleBigPlanet.
No Assassin's Creed.

It only does nothing.

Only $99.99.

You've never owned an Apple TV or Roku box?

 

[Resistance100]

Amazing, need one of these, Just give us a UK release date Sony

 

[sajj316]

Wait. Where's the remote? Sony, don't screw this up. That's just dumb to not include a remote!

Its called the DS3 ..

 

[DarkLegion]

Absolutely no reason for me not to get this. This is a muuuuuuuch better option for me rather than buying the handheld.

 

[Shadow Ranger]

Touch controls could be mapped to L2/R2. E.g. hold R2 and use a stick to simulate basic swipe functions (think Okami's brush).

 

[Raoh]

Wait. Where's the remote? Sony, don't screw this up. That's just dumb to not include a remote!

Hmm.. I was wondering about that..

A simple Apple TV like remote would be an important thing to add.

 

[Hellsing321]

$100 Puts it in Impulse purchase range. Pretty nice. Now I won't need to get a Vita that wouldn't leave my home anyway.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

This opinion is all wrong. You're now predicting this will bomb? Do you have anything coherent to say that discredits this device? You come off quite ignorant by calling this a circle jerk as well. Then you go on to slander the Vita's SW.

I sure do. The Vita is selling poorly because it has an unappealing software library. This box does nothing to alleviate the problem, so why would anybody buy it? To play the myriad of indie games that are available elsewhere? I can't see soccer moms spending 100 dollars on a piece of plastic so they can play Terraria and Gravity Rush on their HD TV. "But it's not about the games!" If that's the case, then this thing will do even worse. Apple essentially has a monopoly on the casual market already. The only thing that sounds appealing to me is PS4 remote play, in which case only the hardest of the core will be interested, thereby throwing all sales potential out the window.

 

[Bunta]

Introducing the PlayStation Vita TV.

No screen.
No controls.
No touchpad.
No camera.
No microphone.
No Uncharted.
No Resistance.
No Gravity Rush.
No WipEout.
No LittleBigPlanet.
No Assassin's Creed.

It only does nothing.

Only $99.99.

 

[maabus1999]

802.11n is more than enough for 1080p streaming (unless your signal is really shitty). They must have other reasons.

Streaming at 24 FPS yes, which is what movies are.

Would you be comfortable playing games at sub 30 FPS? It would have to lock in the 5 GHz range transmission wise to this also IMO to achieve enough bandwidth.

And 5 GHz has more wall issues in the end then 2.4 GHz, so the range would come down a little for that bandwidth.

IMO they just played it safe and kept it at 720p to make sure that everyone gets good FPS for games.

EDIT: also add in wireless having packet loss and variable latency due to RF multipathing and other effects, and it gets a lot tougher to do high rez/high fps transmissions at a significant range to be useful.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Damn I can stream PS4 games on another TV is fucking HUGE.

just saw this, totally sold.

 

[sajj316]

Touch controls could be mapped to L2/R2. E.g. hold R2 and use a stick to simulate basic swipe functions (think Okami's brush).

If this picks up and people buy, I can see a dedicated controller that can provide front and back touch.

 

[iammeiam]

Wait. Where's the remote? Sony, don't screw this up. That's just dumb to not include a remote!

Nowhere on the spec sheet does it indicate IR compatability. I seriously doubt it works with remotes at all, at this point, unless you have a Bluetooth remote.