H_Prestige
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With Vita and PSP games now officially playable through a home console, I wonder if Sony will finally wise up and bring that compatibility to PS3/PS4.
PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)
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I'm not taking anything away from VitaTV, in my scenario this doesn't give me option to play on the go when holidaying, plug the vita straight into hotel tv at the end of and play with the DualShock
Zatoichi's Cane
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buying this and attaching it to my work tv, and playing the shit out of my PS4.
the revised vita is a less expensive system to manufacture than the original vita. it comes with a memory stick, but the vita tv doesn't. they could have just had the two machines in one package and sold them at a loss.
and the vita tv isn't much of a second vita seeing as a lot of the games won't work for it.
frankie_baby
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so sony's solution to hardly anyone buying a vita is to get everyone who does have one to buy 2
Graphics Horse
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Both the Vita TV and new Vita have 1GB internal storage.
LiquidMetal14
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lostsouldier
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If this isn't announced for North America I will be crushed. I want to buy 4 or 5 of these to give away for the Holidays, plus one for myself.
I want it more than a PS4 right now...
I want it more than a PS4 right now...
If I have to move cables it might as well be a PS4 so I would need to buy another power adapter and HDMI to keep plugged in behind the extra TV. The whole point of the one device streaming around the house is that is just works. It stays there and never moves. $100 is a fantastic price for a micro console and a Vita (plus a decent media player). It just isn't in that $40 buy three impulse range.
Of course not but in this real life scenario (the one they demonstrated in that video). One would probably need 2 if they don't want to move devices around (which is the whole point to begin with)
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I'm more of a sony ecosystem outsider (I do own a PS3, however) so in my unbiased opinion, they nailed it with this thing. Perfect product at the perfect time and price.
Sony seems to really be bringing it in a big way with the PS4 and now this. See, this is why competition is GRAND.
Sony seems to really be bringing it in a big way with the PS4 and now this. See, this is why competition is GRAND.
Verge said they will allow this, connecting the Vita to the Vita TV.
I don't see why not, if you have PS+, Vita TV is basically another Vita unit
I think it's a branding thing, the vita name was stuck as a portable device. Personally I think it's a good idea to expand it to a family of devices that basically means you're playing on PlayStation low end or PS4 companion.
Yes.
With PS+ you can saves your games to the cloud. So you'd play on Vita, upload to the cloud, boot up VTV and download your save and carry on.
Think of the number of people who had a Wii hooked up to their HDTVs, and that's only 480p. Image quality should be fine for most users.
Uh, import it?
Region free, english menus, runs on 5v so you can power it via USB, and it's only bloody £60.
You'd get it by Christmas.
demosthenes
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No, because there are those of us that still will use their VIta. Outside of your house or when you just have 1 TV in your apartment for example :0
Oh man....
So I Pre ordered a ps4 as soon as they were available, about 3 weeks ago I canceled my cable and got a fast Internet subcrisption... My sister has twc, I use her login details to watch espn, hbogo on the 360.. I subscribe to amazon prime and have Netflix.. Last week I was spthinking maybe I made a mistake and should of preordered a xbone because those streaming services are important to me now that I have no cable tv..
This could solve all my problems (if hbogo and espn do becom available), play awesome vita games ANDDDD stream ps4 games to my computer room?!
Oh man....
So I Pre ordered a ps4 as soon as they were available, about 3 weeks ago I canceled my cable and got a fast Internet subcrisption... My sister has twc, I use her login details to watch espn, hbogo on the 360.. I subscribe to amazon prime and have Netflix.. Last week I was spthinking maybe I made a mistake and should of preordered a xbone because those streaming services are important to me now that I have no cable tv..
This could solve all my problems (if hbogo and espn do becom available), play awesome vita games ANDDDD stream ps4 games to my computer room?!
Oh man....
BronsonLee
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Yeah, because they removed the screen. I'm going to assume that everything else is the exact damn same.
It is a silly thing to ask for.
Thats fine.
But the original question was, "do I need 2 VTVs to do remote play from PS4?". The answer is unequivocally no.
That you might want 2 or 3 is neither here nor there. You only NEED 1 to do remote play.
That doesn't come with a controller and features expensive, proprietary memory. I don't see it. It's an add-on.
LiquidMetal14
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Excellent.
Is anyone else thinking about just taking progress from the Vita and just taking the memory card and plugging it into the VitaTV? It should work seamlessly in theory correct?
Or maybe I will just put the 32GB card on this and the 64GB one on my Vita. Lots of potential here.
Graphics Horse
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No controller at that price.
Glorified G
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Just caught this. You could use the Vita as a controller instead of Dualshock? This would solve a lot of compatibility issues. Especially for current Vita owners. Now I'm actually intrigued.
no, they have another for TGS
Dead Prince
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lostsouldier
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Isn't Vita only able to have 1 account at a time? Will Japanese Vita games play on a US Account? Online?
If so, Ill buy the hell out of J-Stars Victory and Gundam Seed.
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No controller. $150 model comes with a white DS3 and 8gb memory card. As stated in the OP.
LiquidMetal14
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It seems you can just sync any DS3 though. Or DS4 once patched.
I already have a spare DS3 laying around so immediate compatibility for me. And it seems you can use an actual Vita as a remote.
Everyone had already answered the question to the letter of the law. My point was only to clarify the spirit with a specific scenario. A scenario that I think will not be insignificant.
Manmademan
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who in the target market for this doesn't already have a dualshock 3, or won't have a ds4?
edit: didn't realize the 150 dollar version came with 8 gigs of memory. that's probably closer to the true price point.
Except...you know...the portability of the portable.
Now that would be a megaton.
The only games that won't be playable once DS4 support is added will be games where you need to touch specific things on the screen directly with your finger. Simple things like swipes to parry an attack could be done on the touchpad, while other things like defending against an ambush in Dynasty Warriors by touching all the incoming arrows cannot.
The back touchpad was just a bandaid for the lack of L2/R2/L3/R3 which won't be an issue with an actual controller in hand, and I don't see many problems coming from lack of back touchpad support since most can be mapped to those 4 buttons I mentioned.
The only major obstacle is games that had touchscreen elements shoehorned in to make the Vita version of games play differently which is now biting them in the ass now that they want to move away from that touchscreen.
The back touchpad was just a bandaid for the lack of L2/R2/L3/R3 which won't be an issue with an actual controller in hand, and I don't see many problems coming from lack of back touchpad support since most can be mapped to those 4 buttons I mentioned.
The only major obstacle is games that had touchscreen elements shoehorned in to make the Vita version of games play differently which is now biting them in the ass now that they want to move away from that touchscreen.
Let me guess what it uses for additional storage....overpriced Vita memory cards.
That being said I might still buy one because I have extra DS 3's lying around and a room that could use a media extender. It probably won't be DLNA compliant though but maybe the service they described in the OP will work well enough.
That being said I might still buy one because I have extra DS 3's lying around and a room that could use a media extender. It probably won't be DLNA compliant though but maybe the service they described in the OP will work well enough.
Import all the physical Japanese titles you want. They work perfectly regardless of region or account.
It's online accounts (digital titles) that are limited to one per memory card. Just have a US account.
where?
no....
$150 ds3 w/ 8gb mem card bundle. Could just use your own ds3 though
I just realised, people who buy a PS4 will likely have a PSN+ account. All the free Vita/PSP/PS1 games they keep getting from Plus could tempt them to jump in on Vita for $100. The addition of streaming PS4 and Media features on a second TV is another bonus. This device is perfect for PS4 only owners or even PS4/Vita owners who just want to stream PS4 on another TV and make use of their Vita library on a TV.
On the flip side this device is also perfect for cheap people who can't afford PS4 and want a games system or media box. However it will compete with PS3 and 360 which are also on the same price range if you include a memory card and controller that you will need.
Finally for people who already own a Vita or plan to get a Vita handheld system. They can make use of this system if they want to simply play their current Vita games on the TV, or share Vita games with the family but not give away your Vita handheld. The addition of local play (1 person on Vita and 1 on VitaTV) can also be appealing to current Vita owners.
So there you have it the 3 types of customers Sony are aiming this device on.
On the flip side this device is also perfect for cheap people who can't afford PS4 and want a games system or media box. However it will compete with PS3 and 360 which are also on the same price range if you include a memory card and controller that you will need.
Finally for people who already own a Vita or plan to get a Vita handheld system. They can make use of this system if they want to simply play their current Vita games on the TV, or share Vita games with the family but not give away your Vita handheld. The addition of local play (1 person on Vita and 1 on VitaTV) can also be appealing to current Vita owners.
So there you have it the 3 types of customers Sony are aiming this device on.