Dixie's far from a sure thing. There's no telling if Sakurai even knew about Tropical Freeze back when he was planning SSB4's roster. (There are a lot of major games from 2006-2007 with no representation in Brawl.) And even if he did know, that doesn't automatically mean he wanted to include Dixie as a character. Dixie was only ever planned as a tag team character in Brawl -- as soon as that mechanic was cut, so was Dixie. Maybe Sakurai doesn't think she warrants being a standalone character. Who knows. All I'm saying is that Tropical Freeze isn't necessarily some kind of benchmark. If anything, I expect the game's Donkey Kong representation (characters and stages) to end at DKC Returns.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft
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He was my most wanted character. I used to want him in so that I could have a battle royale with the other villains (Dedede, Bowser, and Ganon). Now, I'm rather indifferent to the idea of his inclusion.
It would be cool if he got in though. Little Mac is currently the one I'm pining for the most.
I know how much you guys love size arguments, but really, K. Rool would look stupid unless he was significantly larger than Donkey Kong (who's already one of the biggest characters in the game). But given the stage platform placement, he would clip through everything, and I don't think Sakurai would be okay with something that sloppy. I think it's a legitimate concern. In fact, I'd bet everything that K. Rool won't be playable.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Smash Bros GIANTS: Featuring Ridley, K. Rool, Wailord, the Moon from Majora's Mask, and an Arwing.
Vintage_Creep
Banned
Oh well now size problems with K. Rool.
Who's next?
Who's next?
C.Olimar788
Member
Mewtwo is 2.0m tall, five times as tall as Pikachu (.4m)! There's no way Mewtwo can get in, because they would need to make him much bigger than Pikachu, and then he would look huge and awkward. He's far too large for Smash Bros.
RomanceDawn
Member
So many K Rool lovers and Ridley haters. The haters don't even see the hypocrisy.
Any way, K Rool Bowser or Dedede sized doesn't seem like a big deal. I know guys like Ganondorf clipped through everything in Brawl. Usually on the Yoshi Stage or battle field. I don't think its much of a big deal to Sakurai. I suppose of their eyes peaked over the platforms that would be an issue.
Pikachu and Mewtwo are roughly Smash Bros.-scaled in the 3D Pokémon games and the anime. There's a precedent to Pokémon varying in size like that. I've been playing Pokémon games for a long time, and I never once thought they looked out of place in Smash Bros. K. Rool being the same size (or slightly taller) than Donkey Kong, on the other hand, would look incredibly jarring. Evidently those in charge of making Smash Bros. feel the same way, because it certainly isn't K. Rool and Ridley's lack of popularity or move set potential keeping them from being playable. There just isn't a way to make them fit without stripping them of their essence and character.
Don't worry, they'll somehow come out with the larger Mega Pikachu to balance it all out
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I regret to inform you that the King of Red Lions is too big to be a character, and for him to transform from a boat to a King is just too much work.
Well I guess that one guy who was hoping for that character will be distraught.
this thread makes it so difficult to search for who quoted me 
Also, I really hope we get more character confirmations soon. Silly stuff like the wii fit trainer is always cool, but I hope she replaces another joke character slot -- like, game & watch or ROB.
Has it been confirmed if we're getting less characters this time around or not? I know there have been hints at a large number of cuts -- which sucks -- but no lucario would be shitty.
Also, I have to point out that the whole 'cuts are due to the 3ds' thing makes no sense at all.
WiiU version will almost certainly have HD models. 3DS will not. 8GB~ of 240p content on the 3ds can't possibly be less than 25GB of HD content on the Wii-U.... That's just silly. I kind of want to know the real reason there are going to be so many cuts in the new version.
Seems like another "no single player because you guys are assholes and upload shit online" excuse. If you're rushing development and can't fit in everything you want, just tell us.
Also, I really hope we get more character confirmations soon. Silly stuff like the wii fit trainer is always cool, but I hope she replaces another joke character slot -- like, game & watch or ROB.
Has it been confirmed if we're getting less characters this time around or not? I know there have been hints at a large number of cuts -- which sucks -- but no lucario would be shitty.
Also, I have to point out that the whole 'cuts are due to the 3ds' thing makes no sense at all.
WiiU version will almost certainly have HD models. 3DS will not. 8GB~ of 240p content on the 3ds can't possibly be less than 25GB of HD content on the Wii-U.... That's just silly. I kind of want to know the real reason there are going to be so many cuts in the new version.
Seems like another "no single player because you guys are assholes and upload shit online" excuse. If you're rushing development and can't fit in everything you want, just tell us.
whooooa, no way dude
RomanceDawn
Member
I just can't accept that. Ridley has had an appearance in each Smash title with his presence growing with each new installment. I buy into the body type argument though. Not that he is big because that just silly to me, but Ridley's typical proportions before Other M might have just seemed too awkward for Sakurai.
What ever the case, if Ridley does not make it in I would like another interviewer to ask why or why not he was ever considered. If I got some reasonable BS then my soul could rest during the development of Smash Bros 6. If I made it to E3 this past June I would have tracked him down and asked him myself.
Lucario... You're a monster! A fiend!
G&W = before their childhood
WiiFit Trainer = After their chidlhood
Thus the deep connection for them is not there.
That's my guess, mostly based on how people reacted to ROB when he was announced.
Technically the same applies to me but since I have an interest in Nintendo history I even like things from before my time (and G&W Gallery 2 was one of my first GBC games so I played it a lot)
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
this thread makes it so difficult to search for who quoted me
go to search and type quote=Lucario
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Haha, this thread's kinda big, yeah. I'm not keeping up too much just because this would probably be my first Smash game since the first one on the N64, but, yeah... kinda trying to pay attention to stuff in this thread.
OP's usually up-to-date anyway.
No more allowed, ok? I'll be very disappointed with you.
OP's usually up-to-date anyway.
Oh, you won your bet.
No more allowed, ok? I'll be very disappointed with you.
Yeah, I'm about done with the bets. Just wanted to ended my avatar betting adventures on a high note is all
or am I? heh heh heh... >
Vintage_Creep
Banned
Well MegaX can absolutely simply work as an alt to be honest, it doesn't need a different moveset. Don't know about MegaY though, could be weird.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
I think I said this once already.
But I'm going to hate that stage if there's a lava hazard.
But I'm going to hate that stage if there's a lava hazard.
it'll happen
I'm sick of it myself
there's like... 4 metroid lava stages now in the entire series...
friskykillface
Banned
lmfao now king k rool is too big. the fuck
maken him Bowsers old or new size and its ok
the crown can clip i dont care, i want him in
was funny that brawl had the lava rising stage and acid rising past stage . they were the same thing
give us brinstar depths
maken him Bowsers old or new size and its ok
the crown can clip i dont care, i want him in
was funny that brawl had the lava rising stage and acid rising past stage . they were the same thing
give us brinstar depths
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
nice avatar even i don't get the reference.
Troubled Bat
Member
Honestly, I don't even think Mewtwo would use his Awakened forms at all. :X
He has two now, Mewtwo X and Mewtwo Y. And possibly if they don't go the Pokemon White/Black way with W2/B2. There would be Pokemon Z! And most likely Mewtwo Z. D:
Random thoughts.
He has two now, Mewtwo X and Mewtwo Y. And possibly if they don't go the Pokemon White/Black way with W2/B2. There would be Pokemon Z! And most likely Mewtwo Z. D:
Random thoughts.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
He loves Phil Fish and thinks the only good Pokemon gen is the first one
If true me an Zeeroid can no longer be friends.
Just acquaintances
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Or we might not get any direct this month at all?
Madness, Mr. G&W a joke? Without him, the Gameboy would not have existed. I'm sure you didn't know the significance of his role so you can be forgiven (though a quick google would've...).
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Eh? we already have monster hunter 4 direct as well. Plus it's bi-monthly direct so we had one last month. What made it weird is that last month's direct is only review direct to hyping up Wii U and the games that we are aware of.
Or ever.
The Wii U price drop and the 2ds were announcements big enough for a Direct, but one wasn't made for it.
I meant worldwide Direct, not region specific like MH4.
actually I don't know where I am getting with this
but yeah I'm just saying anything is possible at this point
though I do think it's actually likely we'll get a ND before TGS, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't make one lol
You're saying that it's possible we won't get a Nintendo Direct anymore? A price drop is not enough to warrant a Direct since we didn't get one about the 3DS' price drop. And I don't think we had one for the 3DS XL either.
They don't usually announce Directs unless it's within the 12-48 hours of it.
I wouldn't be surprised if we get a Zelda character around the time of WW HD's release. Sakurai's has been doing that for certain titles. Too bad for W101 though :3
I do think we're still due a "Fall Update" Direct of some sort.
Fall Directs/Conferences served as Nintendo's answer to how they don't do TGS. So they would need something to make sure they don't get lost in all the TGS hype for next week, I would think...
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
No, nintendo always has to do a thing, either their own conference or a direct, since this is basically japan E3
powerdrain
Member
I think it'd be nice to see Yoshi next if we're not expecting a newcomer. It seems odd that he's the only one not to be shown yet from the "Big 8". I've seen suggestions where he could have Baby Mario riding his back/integrated into his move-set, which I've actually thought about myself, as a way of representing his home franchise, but I'd imagine that'd ruffle some feathers with a baby in a fighting game.
I do like what they did with Yoshi in Brawl though. His little jump he gained from his Up B certainly helped, but I don't think he needs to be reworked massively. He takes a lot of skill to use properly, he just needs his tools adjusted a bit is all.
I do like what they did with Yoshi in Brawl though. His little jump he gained from his Up B certainly helped, but I don't think he needs to be reworked massively. He takes a lot of skill to use properly, he just needs his tools adjusted a bit is all.
Troubled Bat
Member
Anybody want to go and predict what's to come for tomorrows screenshot. XP