BassForever
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Could also be Lucario or Mewtwo returns, but I think we are all expecting a Pokemon related thing this weekend
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft
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Could also be Lucario or Mewtwo returns, but I think we are all expecting a Pokemon related thing this weekend
Sounds like you never played as Ness.
TheRealTalker
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I do play with Ness some-times its just that I'm in the full Kirby camp....
it's also hard trying to convince someone that Kirby is a great character only to be told the same pun that "Kirby sucks"
Talking about this:
So the conspiracy theories are already here. I missed that.
balladofwindfishes
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Mewtwo would be glorious, but that's a pretty huge reveal, and he'll probably be an unlockable, so they might wait.
Lucario would be "safe" too, but he's not as interesting for screenshots as Pokemon Trainer is,
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
if we get into that then things will get complicated, in a way snake in brawl was both solid and naked snake.
balladofwindfishes
Member
wasn't he a special non-canon "Smash Snake" ?
I get why a lot of people want Snake to return cause I like him/play as him too, but I understand why it may be possible he wouldn't. From what I gather Kojima begged Sakurai to include him, so I guess it was done as a favor. Unless they are good friends I can see why he might not return, after all in the Smash U Developer Direct video Sakurai DID say he wasn't just going to let ANY third party join Smash. Not to talk down on Snake but I can imagine that unless asked... (and probably paid) Sakurai would rather regulate which third parties, if any, will be on the roster.
After playing the MGS franchise. It's mostly Solid Snake with a bit of Big Boss. But it's really Solid Snake considering the codec calls and all.
That's a good point, but there is also the time where Sakurai mentioned he will bring back as many characters as possible because he doesn't want to disappoint fans of each character. There is a chance he has talked to Konami/Kojima about getting Snake in Smash Bros 4 just for that.
dryuriev7777
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Yesssssssss! IT BEGINS! I love seeing how much effort people are willing to put in and how far they're willing to go to pass off fake pictures. I'm not even sure what's going on with Mewtwo's head-tail there. It looks really disjointed. Also there's no shadows and I'd figure Mewtwo's Goku-aura would light up the stage around him some.
And his trophy's called Solid Snake.
Something I found about Snake's inclusion in SSBB.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/19/thank-kojimas-son-for-getting-snake-into-smash-bros-brawl/
I love the Metal Gear Universe, so I hope with Toon Link and Sonic's return, Snake, along with many other veterans also make the return!
EDIT:
That has to be fake.
That Mewtwo Y looks a lot like Vaanrose's custom model he made a while back.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=31753
And the regular Mewtwo render looks like it used Starwaffle's custom Mewtwo as the base.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=27923
I like the quality of the fake though! Looks really well done.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/19/thank-kojimas-son-for-getting-snake-into-smash-bros-brawl/
I love the Metal Gear Universe, so I hope with Toon Link and Sonic's return, Snake, along with many other veterans also make the return!
EDIT:
Talking about this:
That has to be fake.
That Mewtwo Y looks a lot like Vaanrose's custom model he made a while back.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=31753
And the regular Mewtwo render looks like it used Starwaffle's custom Mewtwo as the base.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=27923
I like the quality of the fake though! Looks really well done.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Only time will tell if and when snake will be revealed.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Did we ever get a leaked screenshot of Brawl during production? Seems like Sakurai has the HQ locked down tight, and rightly so.
Not to mention it looks like Pikachu is photoshopped from this picture.
Yeah, that's why I didn't mention it since it was pointed out.
I don't think we ever did. The most we got were fake character select screens.
I remember seeing this picture and hoping it was real just because of Bomberman, plus it looked very convincing.
Only character that was missing was Wolf because I think nobody had found a way to unlock him, thus not knowing he was a character.
That would be pretty awesome. Im my opinion, I think everyone should return, even Pichu and Dr. Mario in some fashion. Just put more though into it and either fix the cloning problem or find a unique way to incorporate them in some way, whether its a costume change or something. When I think of sequels, I think of building on what was there previously and making it better. Honestly, I don't even like Pichu or R.O.B/Game and Watch for that matter but I would rather have them in, while continuing to expand the roster. Whenever I see a sequel and stuff gets removed that isn't considered broken or a useless mechanic, it bothers me. Leave the characters in for those that like them and just expand on whats already there. I know it can be done cause the Tekken franchise has just about everyone that has been in a Tekken game in it with this last release of Tekken Tag 2. Tekken's mechanics and playstyle is worlds more in-depth than Smash and difficult to balance and manage but they still pull it off with a huge roster. There is still top tiers but me being a fighting game guy, I find that you will see more diverse characters in the top brackets, compared to a Marvel vs. where its always DOOMMAGNETOSTORMSENTINELVERGILPHOENIX in no particular order. I digress. Keep everyone there and expand on what's made everyone happy. Character wise, gameplay and feature-wise. Whatever new characters, features and gameplay coming in this new installment should enhance that entire experience.
BassForever
Member
Fixed that for you, and I would say Snake is more then just another 3rd party. Not only is he an incredibly iconic character, but sakurai and Kojima are irl friends it'd be hard to imagine neither once talked to the other about Snake returning in Smash 4. That's not to say his return is guaranteed, but I'd say it's probably be easier to get him then most other 3rd party characters.
Hot Coldman
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YESSSSS. IT BEGIINS. Fake leaks are the best leaks.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
theprodigy
Member
Ridley photoshop gonna happen within a week, over/under on the time
Solid Snake is a clone of Big Boss.
I'm going to say before Friday morning we'll get our first Ridley shop. I hope whoever does it uses the some of the pictures of other characters staring at something large in the foreground.
I'd like to see Snake return.....as well as Roy, Mewtwo, Young Link (I know its impossible) and Pichu. I hate when games get rid of whole entire characters, like why put them in and spend all the time developing their skill set and recording voices and whatever just to axe them in the next game? Talk about throwing away money. Just leave them there and satisfy that corner of the fanbase so that way everyone is happy and its less strain on the developer to figure out who to replace them with. The groundwork from previous game is there just tweak it for the new game, and proceed with whatever new additions to the new game that you have planned.
MercilessMercer
Member
So if Bowser gets his castle, the castles will be Bowser's Castle and Dr. Wily's Castle
if this happens, then Dr. Eggman's "castle" should be the Death Egg Zone.
Well, theoretically anyways.
if this happens, then Dr. Eggman's "castle" should be the Death Egg Zone.
Well, theoretically anyways.
peaceiscloser
Member
I think what's different this time around with fake leaks (which are awesome, by the way) is that you could theoretically do anything, if you had the Brawl modding knowhow.
Shadow Hog
Member
They must've announced Pokémon Trainer early, Neoriceisgood seems to have already done his avatar:
:V
Red Arremer
Member
Looking at the daily pic... holy shit Fox's fur textures look awful. Fingers look like turds, rest of the fur looks more like bark of a tree. :V
The clothes/gun look great tho.
The clothes/gun look great tho.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Kojima is a bad friend.
They must've announced Pokémon Trainer early, Neoriceisgood seems to have already done his avatar:
:V
That's for Pokemon X/Y release.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
If it is fair to say that Snake expands the Smash audience, then it is also fair to say that Brawl helped expand the Metal Gear audience. And overall, I don't think Smash needs any help. It is one of Nintendo's biggest brands and will move units regardless of Snake's inclusion. Konami has more to benefit than Nintendo, Smash sales will not take a hit if Snake gets the boot.
Hot Coldman
Banned
For context: both rosters were made under the condition that each series only gets one character.
I always figured that Brawl Snake, like Link, was a composite of all Snakes. He had traits of both Naked and Solid, and some hints of Old, just as the two Links now rep the two kinds of Zelda now.
voltronbadA
Member
Yeah, I still have mixed feelings about Link. I understand the idea of trying to make a character the "best of" version to represent the series as a whole but I don't feel like the one they used does that. I really would have preferred a straight Skyward Sword Link as I feel he would have fit wonderfully with the Bright, Primary color palette they have used with Smash4. It does have me worried for Zelda's appearance and if Sheik will actually return or not (although I really don't think they would nix her.) Toon Link looks amazing though! Still holding out hope that that side-b move is one of the things that seperates and make them unique (along with all unique a moves)
Lol, I hope Zelda doesn't go through anything extreme. Like if they attempt some amalgamation of SS Zelda with other Zeldas...yeesh.
Green Mamba
Member
I am still not at all convinced SSB4 Link is supposed to be anything but TP Link. The only thing that doesn't correspond to TP Link is the brighter color palette, which is a side effect of SSB4's art style as far as I can tell.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
If Donkey Kong and Fox would just shave there would be no problem.
Yeah, exactly. Everyone keeps saying he has Skyward Sword colors, but that's not even true.
Though, to be honest, I don't mind Link having his TP design. It sold better than Skyward Sword and that version of Link appeared in a bunch of other games (Crossbow Training, Brawl, Wii U tech demo). And, of course, it'll make designing Zelda and Ganondorf much easier.
How do you mean? Tilt Right -> B instead of hit Right + B?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Thats how I see it aswell
Snake was definitely representing Solid and Big Boss in Brawl. The default outfit, obviously Solid Snake..but the alt costumes (camo) plus the obvious Big Boss style beard. Of course, moves-wise as well. He had the Nikita rocket (MGS1, side-b) and the RPG (MGS3, down-smash). The codecs were all obviously, Solid snake, though...
But I suppose with Link it's kinda the same.