And that is why people should pay attention to context.
Girl throws a 21st birthday party with an African theme to it. The KKK showed(G/A/F)
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And that is why people should pay attention to context.
Yeah you are most likely correct.
But if painting your skin in a different color is considered racist... then Michael Jackson didn't get enough flack.
That appendage would be in the right place for a klansman.
The bolded is a good point. In the wise words of Paul Kelly, every fucking city feels the same. You need to embrace stereotypes somewhat. I'm sick of everything being so fucking PC.
So:
Australian party = work boots and hats with corks hanging from them or lifeguards.
English party = singlet, handkerchief with knotted corners for a hat and teeth blacked out
American party = cowboy hats or gang signs
Swedish party = viking
French party = beret and bread stick
None of these stereotypes are an accurate representation of the respective population. Whilst it's not strictly blackface, the blackened skin is perhaps going too far and the KKK thing is just fucked up. Wrong country for a start.
It is an anglo thing. Since time ago anglo racists used to paint theirselves black in order to mock black people in Ministrel Shows (aka "Blackface"), everyone who paints theirselves black nowadays does it with that very same intention, apparently (see also: every schwartz piet tread ).
Michael Jackson didn't paint his skin.
Arjen
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Lazy shit, man. While I don't like blackface, it is important to note that the American experience is not the only one. I could just as easily point you to an atlas or world history book and tell you to do some reading.
No, if I was going to a party I would most likely paint my skin black, but not with the intention of mocking black people.
It feels, that if we are going to take your stance, black people should be ashamed of being black.
Joking of course.
He went under cosmetic surgery.
That explains the problem with capital B Blackface but that's not really the same as simply altering your appearance to look like a different person.
I'm just trolling you god damn it.
Good job genius.
if its intended to be used in a racist manner then sure, the ppl in question should hear it. But, if its just merely to portray yourself as a black person for a costume or theatrical purposes, it doesnt deserve to be in the spotlight imo.
roosters93
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Hear hear
Excluding Africa from tings doesn't seem like a good solution to me.
Also if you excluded places on that criteria what kind of continental themed parties could we have? antarctican? Some fucked up shit has probably happened there too
Nowhere is perfect, Australia has plenty of issues, but they are well ahead of a lot of places.
Uncle Ruckus had re-vitiligo.
You make such a compelling argument.
Arjen
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I recently found out Austarlians called shrimps prawns, and that they're not thrown on a barbie.
My world was shattered.
Discotheque
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they should have had a babar themed party. everybody wear trunks on your face and suits or dresses.
reptilescorpio
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I have to assume the KKK outfit was meant to be a witty joke. In any case it was a fucking stupid idea, what a moron.
Yeah I would say most people here agree with that, at least going by the reaction on the news as well as general murmurings around town.
New Babar is weird as fuck. Can't believe I have to track down classic Babar for my son rather than have him watch that tripe!
Yeah I would say most people here agree with that, at least going by the reaction on the news as well as general murmurings around town.
New Babar is weird as fuck. Can't believe I have to track down classic Babar for my son rather than have him watch that tripe!
Too bloody right cobber. Fair suck o' the sav!
What an utterly ridiculous statement. The historical context of white people dressing up in blackface to ridicule is present so why even go down that road?
If we are ignoring historical context in this case, Why not just ignore all historical context and call black people "niggers?" As long as you're not doing it in a racist and mocking way it's all good right?
Are you serious?!
You mean Australians call prawns prawns (and we call actual shrimp shrimp). It's just Americans who incorrectly call prawns shrimp.
First off, I didn't state 'blackface' was OK did I?
Second, the images from the party isn't 'blackface'esque since they are not satire or in a stereotyped caricature way.
Just because they paint their bodies black doesn't mean they are doing it in a demeaning way. Of course, if they would have taken the 'blackface' route, then it would have been a different matter altogether.
In the US and UK, yes. It's nowhere as widespread as some here assume.
OrangeGrayBlue
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Given a different context, this is exactly the reason that this african themed party is offensive regardless of the Australian experience of blackface being different from the USA's. Portraying yourself as black for a costume is one thing, but showing that your understanding of Africa equates to tribesmen in loincloths shows a much greater ignorance of culture than anyone here is claiming in defense of Australia.
Alfred Saxon
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Do you get offended when African-Americans make films that mock Whites with the use of painting their faces White. White face ok because only Whites can be racist according to you.
But this is a huge part of their cultural history? They are NOT stating that this is the case today.
Africa as a continent is so rich of human history and (most likely) the birth place of the modern man. This adds up to their tribal society that was a big part for a while during their history.
In my eyes, people are looking for racism where there is none.
KKK racism.
Tribal person not racism.
Boom Boom Pow
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i can only assume you're meaning White Girls?
Here's a hint: no one got mad when Robert Downie Jr. painted his face black in his movie either
I'm going to go quote this post on tumblr immediately.
Animation-Imp
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I feel this whole thing is torn out of context.
How is this handfull of people who dress up for a private party suddenly racism.
I just don't get it.
Dressing up is always stereotypical. If it's subtle it looses the fun factor.
None of this is harmfull, or an indication of racist mentality.
Even the clan member, it's just a joker who thought he would be the life of the party with his edgy costume... I really doubt he sympathises with the ideology.
For comparisson.
In Belgium, the british series 'Allo Allo' is very popular.
We have a big fantasy convention here called facts.
Every year some of the cast are present.
And every year there are folks who coss-play as Nazi.
Are all of those racist, or are they just making fun of a traumatic part of history?
People tend to use humour as a way to deal with these kind of frightening ideologies.
The fact that she placed the pictures on facebook shouldn't be an issue either.
It wasn't very smart, but they just didn't see the issue with posting private pictures on a public space... not smart but nothing to demonise them for either.
How is this handfull of people who dress up for a private party suddenly racism.
I just don't get it.
Dressing up is always stereotypical. If it's subtle it looses the fun factor.
None of this is harmfull, or an indication of racist mentality.
Even the clan member, it's just a joker who thought he would be the life of the party with his edgy costume... I really doubt he sympathises with the ideology.
For comparisson.
In Belgium, the british series 'Allo Allo' is very popular.
We have a big fantasy convention here called facts.
Every year some of the cast are present.
And every year there are folks who coss-play as Nazi.
Are all of those racist, or are they just making fun of a traumatic part of history?
People tend to use humour as a way to deal with these kind of frightening ideologies.
The fact that she placed the pictures on facebook shouldn't be an issue either.
It wasn't very smart, but they just didn't see the issue with posting private pictures on a public space... not smart but nothing to demonise them for either.
OrangeGrayBlue
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So rich in human history, yet they all went for the tribesmen approach? You don't consider their understanding of this rich history to be a little narrow and, therefore, insensitive?
It's blackface. This guys is clearly in blackface.
First off who are you actually talking to here and is there a history of black people dressing in whiteface to mock white people?
And I'm not just talking about some shitty Wayans brothers movie, I'm talking about shit like this:
You'll last a real long time here.
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I very much doubt she thought "hey, lets have a racist party". I don't think there was any malicious intent, and I don't think darkening your skin instantly makes you a racist. Probably a poor choice of theme, but that's about it.
Their themed costume party has nothing to do with their understanding of the history of Africa, though. It's a party, not a history book.
They didn't all go for the tribesman approach, at least according to the retort printed in the blog post. The ones that did were cherry picked and highlighted. Heck, even in the pictures they showed they weren't all dressed as tribesmen.
It's blackface. This guys is clearly in blackface.
First off who are you actually talking to here and is there a history of black people dressing in whiteface to mock white people?
And I'm not just talking about some shitty Wayans brothers movie, I'm talking about shit like this:
I don't suppose you noticed the lack of exaggerated features, the lack of red lips, and the lack of missing teeth when comparing those images did you? Yes, it is stupid, but to equate what these dickheads did with American blackface and stereotypical 'Negro' imagery is pretty shit.
What? No it isn't insensitive, why would it be? And no, all isn't dressed that way, someone looks like Cleopatra, someone is a gorilla, someone an elephant.
It's blackface. This guys is clearly in blackface.
First off who are you actually talking to here and is there a history of black people dressing in whiteface to mock white people?
And I'm not just talking about some shitty Wayans brothers movie, I'm talking about shit like this:
You'll last a real long time here.
I honestly don't see the resemblance with the images you posted with the 'blackface' images you also posted.
And damn, he will not last long here...
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