General Choomin
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What are you talking about? Maybe your nose is busted up or something because it smells pretty good.
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For first time, majority in U.S. favor legalizing pot according to Gallup poll
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What are you talking about? Maybe your nose is busted up or something because it smells pretty good.
Princess Viola
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I don't partake in it, but the faster we megalize larijuana in this country, the faster that we can focus on shit that matters.
Are you seriously arguing semantics here? You think that's clever or something?
In common usage, poison = toxin. If you're trying to insinuate that marijuana is a poison because it causes a chemical reaction on the molecular level and ignore that most people mean toxins, then that's just sad.
Marijuana does not kill you in high doses.There you go.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The smell is actually the one and only reason why I'd prefer that it remain illegal.
Can't stand that shit at all.
Did you know there are over 300 million people in the USA? We can do more than one thing at once.
Delicious Waffles
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Legalize it and tax it. Silly that the government doesn't want to make money off this.
Yeah, not a fan. I'd rather be around cigarette smoke.
Most people assume weed is illegal because it's bad. Anyone who has researched the topic knows it's because of propaganda and countries following other countries lead. Watch "The Union" or some of the marihuana documentaries on Hulu.
Legalizing weed lowers prison population & crime stats, opens new medical treatment etc. weed is only illegal because it hurts pockets of local governments, federal bureaus (DEA) and big pharma corporations.
Legalizing weed lowers prison population & crime stats, opens new medical treatment etc. weed is only illegal because it hurts pockets of local governments, federal bureaus (DEA) and big pharma corporations.
General Choomin
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legalize weed and ban guns. Within 100 years we will be ready for real life star trek: the next generation
god I hate when people say things like "don't we have more important things to think about". Turns out different people assess importance differently. Legalizing weed makes the world strictly better than it is, so it's worth doing. yes having less crimes defined means the nation will have less criminalsPai Pai Master
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Sounds like she's just a fucking awful human being. Don't lump her in with the rest of us!
Old people, dumb people, and drug dealers holding us back.
Vol5
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America should certainly legalize - IF it's managed correctly. I'm no advocate of it being smoked outdoors or in public places. It should be kept within licensed premises or at home. I think it also needs some further research into how it affects dopamine creation in the brain as I'm pretty sure multiple research has 'theorized' MJ could affect it.
Apart from that though - Fucking go crazy. I'll be on the first flight to the US as soon as that law drops.
Manmademan
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That's not what he means. Keeping weed illegal provides a avenue for organized crime (i.e. gangs) and mexican cartels to fund themselves by selling it.
make it legal, the price crashes through the floor, and it's no longer a valid way for organized crime to fund itself. Exactly like alcohol during prohibition.
On top of that, those states that lock up people for marijuana possession inadvertently raise crime by turning non violent offenders into unemployable felons. (most jobs won't hire you if you have a felony or went to jail on your record.) those masses of unemployable ex-cons commit crimes at a very high rate because of this and often end right back up in jail.
Great news. As someone who has never smoked and never will smoke, I'm all for legalization.
-Minimal health risks that primarily revolve around the act of smoking anything.
-Hypocritical laws. This should not be illegal while the far more dangerous alcohol is legal.
-Thousands in prison with their lives ruined despite never having harmed another person.
-The illegal drug trade provides funding for the cartels, helping them murder thousands more.
-Legalization would help to improve our economy with its production and sales.
-Efforts can be diverted to rehabilitating those with addictions to actual harmful drugs (all drug possession should be decriminalized, while the less harmful ones such as marijuana should be legal).
Legalization is an overwhelming positive, and one of the more important issues of the day.
-Minimal health risks that primarily revolve around the act of smoking anything.
-Hypocritical laws. This should not be illegal while the far more dangerous alcohol is legal.
-Thousands in prison with their lives ruined despite never having harmed another person.
-The illegal drug trade provides funding for the cartels, helping them murder thousands more.
-Legalization would help to improve our economy with its production and sales.
-Efforts can be diverted to rehabilitating those with addictions to actual harmful drugs (all drug possession should be decriminalized, while the less harmful ones such as marijuana should be legal).
Legalization is an overwhelming positive, and one of the more important issues of the day.
SlipperySlope
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I'm a little lost. Why would they be against it? I'd figure they'd be the first ones to be able to get that shit in stores aside from maybe tobacco companies.
Manmademan
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Because big pharma makes a TON of money on painkillers, and marijuana is very effective at this. Big pharma is one of the top 5 lobbyists keeping marijuana illegal. I think at least 2 of the others are law enforcement.
and no, they can't really make the same amount of money on marijuana as they can selling percoset or whatever, as marijuana can easily be grown by anyone with 5 feet of yard space, and can't be patented. there's no reason to buy prescription weed at inflated prices.
Roland1979
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That's not what posion is, it has to be damaging within a realistic dose. Not a single person has ever died from smoking it. By your definition clean water is way more "poisonous", since people have died from drinking a huge amount of water within a very short time span, some student bets for instance. Poison is all about the dose, weed is not poisonous, period. I'm from The Netherlands and have used it a lot for a very long time and seen it all around me growing up. Unless you vaporize it it is not good for your lunges however. Alcohol is way more damaging and actually a mild poison, that is why a overdose is called a alcohol-poisoning. People get mild mannered from weed, milder then sober. Lots of people get violent from alcohol and some get depressed. Property damage is much higher then sober or under the influence of marijuana. Things like spousal abuse and child abuse and neglect are more likely to happen with drinkers. Alcohol can seriously damage organs with the liver going first. Alcohol is very addictive, more then weed is. After all these years of smoking much more then recommended i just quit one day and never smoked a single joint again, not even graved it much in the beginning and very soon not graved it at all. Kicking alcoholism is very hard and for many a life long struggle. Drinking 1 or 2 glasses of wine a day is acceptable and has health benefits that outweigh the disadvantages (which it still has).
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Didn't the Gallup poll think Romney was winning for a long time
Because marijuana legalization lets little guys make medicinal properties. A lot of different types of marihuana (oils, pills etc) have better results than a lot of commercial medicine (pills). Marihuana legalization would hurt them. And they can't patent a plant so it would be a huge market for them to try to make $ in. Big pharma has no interest or they'd be doing it now.
There's a big graph that goes around reddit etc showing what marihuana can be made in and how it's related to various medicines. I can't find it though
.Edit: legalization also means you can grow it. Growing your own medicine is what scares big pharma the most.
Manmademan
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their methodology for rating presidential elections intentionally undercounted democratic turnout for nonsense reasons. I don't think it's really applicable here.
Because anyone can grow and sell good weed ... you think big pharma wants to give up their drug share for something safer that anyone can make?
Black Mamba
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Election polling and general polling are two different things. Election polling has pollsters trying to "guess" what the electorate looks like. General polling is set in stone by the census data.
Angry Fork
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Doesn't have much to do with that unfortunately. We don't live in a democracy, it doesn't matter much what the population thinks as we have no direct say.
Just because it smells better than two really bad things doesn't mean it actually smells nice.
Though I can only speculate that MAYBE I smelled it in the air before without confirming for sure, though given the amount of usage and the analogies I can believe it.
EDIT: And the smell is completely secondary to whether it should be legal or not, frankly just knocking the wind out of some of these cartels would be enough reason to me, nevermind how relatively benign it really is.
Legalization will never happen in the US, the alcohol companies already paid Obama off and other politicians. And once they leave office they will just keep on writing checks to the replacements.
And it's great that they are doing that, marijuana should only be legalized for medicinal reasons.
And it's great that they are doing that, marijuana should only be legalized for medicinal reasons.
Well, it also depends on the quality. But, generally speaking, good-to-high quality weed smells delightful ...
moltonasty
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Just being able to casually smoke a J on the street as a cop walks past is pretty thrilling. I wouldn't blow it in his face, but if he's walking past and I happen to be smoking, that certainly wouldn't constitute as assault.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It isn't a serious criticism of their methodology in respect to determining whether people smoke weed. I'm just giving them shit for that entire cycle.
So you believe alcohol should be illegal then, right? How about those frivolous prescription meds?
Poltergust
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Unless everyone around me has been smoking low-quality stuff my whole life, then I don't think it smells good under any condition. It's very unpleasant.
Brian Griffin
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I genuinely surprised how many people in here say they hate it and I also wonder what quality of weed it was that they have smelled. All the weed I've encountered here in WA has been locally grown and was always super fresh. I've never met anyone, smoker or not, who didn't find it pleasant smelling to some degree. To each their own I guess.
One thing to look at is Marijuana and hemp laws BEFORE the 1930s. Hemp was poised to over take the lumber industry, as Hemp can be grown in 2-3 months and used with a majority of the same uses trees can. Instead of joining in the lumber barons essentially hired politicians to lobby against it. There was a large trend that people said weed made "white women welcome the company of black and Hispanic men" in the mid 20s-30s.
The biggest negative effect of weed is that if you're a smoker from ages 12-18 your brain doesn't develop white matter enough which inhibits learning and brain development. But that study came out THIS YEAR.
Regardless, legalization is coming. I truly feel if the south eastern US legalizes medicinal weed it'll start a domino effect.
The biggest negative effect of weed is that if you're a smoker from ages 12-18 your brain doesn't develop white matter enough which inhibits learning and brain development. But that study came out THIS YEAR.
Regardless, legalization is coming. I truly feel if the south eastern US legalizes medicinal weed it'll start a domino effect.
Hale-XF11
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I have this theory that when the time comes and cannabis is legal on a national level, most people will eventually find that they prefer it to alcohol and/or other drugs and that its use by the majority of people will eventually lead us to living in a more compassionate society. That compassion will, in turn, lead to greater things for everyone in this country.
I can dream.
I can dream.
sssstententen
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Source? If true just make the same as regular tobacco and limit it to 18+. Wouldn't stop kids from smoking it any more than they do now though.
why am i somewhat skeptical of this claim
I can find it when I get back to my computer. It's very interesting.
HovaHovito
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HovaHovito
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Interact with another human being? Are you high?
I imagine it has something to do with the fact that marijuana is more or less accepted nowadays in the general culture, but we still have the old guard in power who doesn't want to budge on the issue.
edit: maybe not entirely accepted, due to its legality, but I do think that the general stereotype of the burnout pothead is dying.
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