Well, to be fair, that's just my statement on the situation not an official DF statement (as in, it wasn't cleared by Rich or anything). I do work for them but I wasn't involved in this comparison. That's just my understanding of how things went down (as in, it was a special event and DF brought its own capture hardware while everyone else used elgato boxes handed out by reps).
DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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Legendary_Red
Banned
It is at least the first 2 at least, the 3rd one as well depending on how you interperate MS's typically vague and mostly meaningless PR.
The most telling evidence is the CBoaT post:
yaes. Ripend tools helalp. Dvoper familiarty 2. same thihg ocuredwithn ps3cel last tme rou^nd.
@@#ESRMA is handicap prob for now but workarohd wil cume.
Hdwaarwe powr is alwysa behnd tho. never chagns,ing. wo cpomlet HW upate. 900-720p wil be norm. gamwes wil be goud !!thoug and that hwath mat ers. just struggle mre to wok on xon.
I hgu you friend flesh itw alget bettr I promise
Tools still need to be ripened, eSRAM workaround is coming, and things will 'alget bettr I promise'
The differences ought to be getting smaller than this post launch, and not the other way around is what I am thinking. We should be getting versions that are identical sans a clearer picture at 1080p-900p on PS4 vs 720p-900p on XO (which is what I'm thinking would have happened if MS has 4 more months), and not this whole laundry list of issues.
Ok, what about that big rock in the right that only have visible the top in next gen versions?
And all the little stones in the left are missing too.
I guess that many people don't know where to look in a scene to detect aliasing. Once you know, it is pretty obvious. I also don't get why people are still bringing up the distance-to-TV argument. On PS360 I was aware of jaggies in 720p games all the time, and I game roughly 4 meters from my TV.
hospitaldriver
Member
Got to say the XB1 version looks pretty good for a launch game bearing in mind the rumored problems with development tools. PS4 does look better and this is from someone who is getting a Day One XB
BlazingDarkness
Member
From Video Gamer:
In what universe does this:
look better than this:
Please enlighten me, because I'm not seeing it. Aliasing is very different in both versions.
PS4 has less jaggies but it also looks too soft and a little blurry. Xbone has jaggies but the lighting looks like it has more depth, and the contrast is better.
Aside from the jaggies, the XBO screens do look better LMAO. Must be theat secret sauce in the upscaler.
Backfoggen
Banned
Exactly, with the last thread I expected the Xbox One version to just look like a turd in all respects.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
So you read the OP in which they say the PS4 version is better, and obviously you must also have read that they messed the PS4 capture up. You see the pictures which clearly show more jaggies on the X1 with higher contrast and crushed blacks ... but you STILL think the X1 is better?!
Dear Lord
From Video Gamer:
In what universe does this:
look better than this:
Please enlighten me, because I'm not seeing it. Aliasing is very different in both versions.
I'm baffled by the lack of ambient occlusion in the Bone version (look at Irish standing next to the truck in both those screens to see what I mean). How can it run at such a low resolution and not have any AO? -_-
i truly disagree...especially as devs move more into things with GPGPU...the PS4 just has a SIGNIFICANT advantage in available processing power in its GPU...
the Xbone is certainly going to get better as the figure out whats going on with its hardware...but the PS4 has plenty of tricks up its sleeve...
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Why does the Xbone have the same jacket design as the PC and the ps4 is completely different?
Monty Mole
Member
Probably because XB1 will use DirectX, same as PC build.
Although it's actually impressive that despite the need to port over to a different SDK and API for PS4, it still runs better.
It does look like a turd though. Look at these:
PS4:
http://abload.de/img/ps41920x-1yir0j.jpeg
XBone:
http://abload.de/img/xbone1920x-1j3o35.jpeg
Metalmurphy
Member
The notion that PS4 development won't improve but X1 will is flawed.
It's always weird and kind of funny seeing people enter a huge thread and post something that completely ignores what was said in the previous 50+ pages.
How does the lighting in the Xbox version have more "depth" when there's no AO, which is a lighting effect specifically designed to enhance depth? Please explain where you're seeing this.
amstradcpc
Member
What´s up with the texture washing up in the PS4 version?. As bad is the scaler included in the APU?. It hurts my eyes, seriously. I don´t see the point of having a greater resolution if postprocessing fucks up image quality so much.
gamerforever
Banned
PS4 version is better - end of discussion.
Higher resolution
Higher framerate
Better anti aliasing
Can't wait for Destiny comparisons and how the PS4 version blows the Xbone one away.
Higher resolution
Higher framerate
Better anti aliasing
Can't wait for Destiny comparisons and how the PS4 version blows the Xbone one away.
OriginalThinking
Member
PS4
XBONE
XBONE
Legendary_Red
Banned
From Video Gamer:
In what universe does this:
look better than this:
Please enlighten me, because I'm not seeing it. Aliasing is very different in both versions.
I'm more interested as to why the left and right hand side of the XO images are cropped, yet they take up the same width. Makes me wonder if something is being covered up...
Whiteshirt
Member
This is literally why TV and monitor manufacturers crank up the gamma and sharpness to crazy levels. Benq vindicated I guess for having the most awful presets of any monitor manufacturer.
I'm actually shocked that people love this.
BlazingDarkness
Member
It looks more washed out in the PS4 version.
Monty Mole
Member
The black levels are crushed on that XB1 pic, which won't be helping. That, and aliasing.
Especially at the poles and wires in the background, or at the gun.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Go and read what I said and look at the sky textures and clothing texture and you'll see that I'm right. Lol.
lol what does this mean?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It's like this scene was made to show off bad AA.
I am curious at how far back people sit from their TV if they can't notice those jaggies
That's why all X1 games are going to be 'better with Kinect'
My stand-out is the car head mirror.
fabricated backlash
Member
To me it is. Really it is. I don't care either way, but the hyperbole here is just delicious.
Some here are acting as if the Xbone version would use N64 models, and the difference being as crass as MW on PC to MW REflex on Wii.
Shame that both consoles can't hold the advertised 60fps. Should've sacrificed quality more to hold the framerate.
Monty Mole
Member
No, the PS4 version is correct. It's the XB1 screenshot that is crushing blacks - perhaps RGB not set correctly?
Honestly, it's as frustrating as people who think 'black enhancer' on their shitty LCD TVs actually looks good. All black crush does it lose detail - see the detail lost on the gloves alone in those two comparison pics as an example.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
From Video Gamer:
In what universe does this:
look better than this:
Please enlighten me, because I'm not seeing it. Aliasing is very different in both versions.
Er...the XB1 picture looks better than the PS4 version.
Dragon1893
Member
So the bottom line here is that the PS4 is rendering 50% more pixels and still outputs a higher frame-rate and effects that are absent from the X1 version?
The PS4's softer image is the consequence of a poor choice of AA solution but in terms of raw numbers that's it right?
The PS4's softer image is the consequence of a poor choice of AA solution but in terms of raw numbers that's it right?
MysticGoujon
Banned
The aliasing on the X1 version is pretty horrific unfortunately, aside from that, the PS4 version just looks a little nicer, it's the aliasing that really kills the X1 version for me.
Terbinator
Member
Something is missing...XBone version:
The same universe where people run TVs and smartphones with sharpness and saturation set to max sadlyFrom Video Gamer:
In what universe does this:
look better than this:
Please enlighten me, because I'm not seeing it. Aliasing is very different in both versions.
"Sharp" is for some synonymous with good. If you look closely the PS4 version actually has more details (just look at the front of the weapon) because of the higher res.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Or that the ps4 shows clouds
SRTtoZ
Member
It's randomly generated. Same with ground textures.
Backfoggen
Banned
Oh, ok.
Dude I looked at all the footage it does not look terrible. I expected texture detail to be way worse, models having less polys, all sorts of shader effects missing.
That was in Digital Foundry's comparisons.
I just finished watching the PS4 videos JackFrags uploaded, and the PS4 version looks very colorful and not washed out.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Okay so looking at the DF footage I thought the image on XBone clearly looked better but now that these other comparisons are out its no contest. Xbone looks significantly worse. If DF truly is trying to skew perception here it might be one of the shadiest things I have ever seen.
Thats pretty huge difference man. Especially in motion. That looks like a HIGH to MED equivalent to me but that just what I am seeing.
Thats pretty huge difference man. Especially in motion. That looks like a HIGH to MED equivalent to me but that just what I am seeing.
SneakyStephan
Banned
check out my edit
My father works at an offset printing company (he mixes the colors , operates the printing roller press etc), if I showed him this thread he'd probably have a heart attack.
I agree, even though I do think the PS4 version looks significantly better - that said, Xbox users can relax as far as this game goes, they will be able to enjoy it.
More important to me is the fact that the PS4s power shows - in a verry significant way - in the numbers. The PS4 har more than 50% more pixels, AA, more and better effects - and i still runs at a higher frame rate than the X1!
What will this mean for future, non-cross-gen relseases where the hardware will be pushed more and more?
I just cannot se the Xbox keeping up with the PS4 in the long run.