plagiarize
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<JaggedSac> Thanks gamers for ruining it for me
They need to let it go. When consumers unite over something, the gaming press don't mean shit.
#dealwithit
Arstechnica: Dont read too much into the PS4s million day-one sales
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They need to let it go. When consumers unite over something, the gaming press don't mean shit.
#dealwithit
see that's the difference though. you are saying they need to chill, he is calling them a derivative of retard. which is both offensive to people with retardation and the people he is attacking(which are the people that read his work, and keep the money coming to his site). telling people to chill is fine, but name calling and being offensive is not.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Who are their masters?
Sega.
The fanboys who lap up that content and give them clicks for such nonsense, of course.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I agree with this. Usually I agree with the general consensus of GAF but it's too early to tell how well the PS4 will do. I hope it does well or I will be concerned about the future of my hobby.
Somehow, I don't think the console fanboys that attacked Ars showed that kind of restraint.
If they mention sales at all...
"XBox One sold at a stately pace in both NA and EU. Balance is a game changer."
Man.
I just love all these websites and enthusiast press guys telling us how 'tarded' we are. You know, for being exited about a new console, and offering props to the company for a large sale through. How dare we, or anyone, point out any conflicting facts or numbers that might question their sacred opinion pieces.
I just love all these websites and enthusiast press guys telling us how 'tarded' we are. You know, for being exited about a new console, and offering props to the company for a large sale through. How dare we, or anyone, point out any conflicting facts or numbers that might question their sacred opinion pieces.
whoever pays the bills.
Marc
Member
TRUTHFACTS hurt apparently.
Gamers can take a lot of shit, and they can give it out in spades... it just so happens gaming mouthpieces get oh so very hurt and yell timeout at the slightest valid critcism. At which point they close a circle round their wounded compadre and resort to ad hominem attacks, strawman fallacies, appeals to authority and a general "this set of people are fools haha, I am too great. I don't even need to respond to valid concerns as I am above all that yet I must sully myself to your level in order to insult you. I said good day sir!". You could argue that the odd idiot exists and crosses a line, they are welcome to name and shame them instead of lumping us all together.
boredandlazy
Member
Whilst I don't condone anyone using insults against the author etc. He's meant to be a professional, and should be held to a higher standard than his readership.
QuicheFontaine
Member
If this article is anything to go by, we can expect "healthy" sales of the Xbone.
Edit: And if you have no problem walking into a store and buying one Day One, that is evidence only of Microsoft's awesome production capacity. And nothing else.
Uncle Ulty
Banned
I work for a major telecommunications company with millions of customers. I wish I could go on twitter as a representative of my company and trash our customers, even if they are wrong. I think my bosses would think it would be bad business though.
Bluekaveli
Member
Nothing wrong with the drm.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
And they are absolutely right.
being professionals, they should be above the crap. journalists and professionals in general, especially in entertainment industries, get that crap all the time. you don't see George Lucas bash his audience when they call the Star Wars prequels crap. no he just keeps himself above it and rakes in the cash.
boredandlazy
Member
dark_prinny
Banned
Disgusting.
jim-jam bongs
Member
The Sony 'Defense force' is ridiculous right now? I see things differently. Totally differently.
Its pretty ridiculous to downplay Sonys record of sales withing the first 24-hours. Not many think the generation is won, they should not, but Sony's continued support of its console was a prevalent trend with last gen. That in itself should be enough to incite confidence.
Self-hating consumers are hilarious
cr_blah_blah
Member
Go ahead and explain why.
NoirVisage
Banned
you're a member here and you have the gull to write that?
Rather than engage your audience as well as your detractors with a meaningful dialogue to back up your points, you dismiss them in one fell swoop in the name of what? When you have some of the most hardcore MS fans on our forum calling this article "pointless" yes, we are mad, maybe even envious that you get paid to do something you might not be that great at.
EDIT: sarcasm meter is broken -__-
ProfessorMoran
Member
Do you punch yourself in the dick? If not then you should have a problem with drm.
perineumlick
Member
Well, wouldn't you feel more concerned if the PS4 didn't perform as well as it has? To say that launch sales don't guarantee long term success is correct, but if the PS4 had come out of the gate selling poorly, you had better believe those numbers would have mattered to everyone.
Childish insults are never a good choice.
"I make a staggering 50k a year. Tell me more, Mr. Republican, how you wish to make the world better for someone like me. You've got my vote!
People really should think carefully about pulling the professionalism card every time somebody makes a tweet or facebook post you don't like. It really works both ways, even if you aren't somebody that deals with the public.
Also, none of these people are exactly George Lucas famous. Also, fame is a disgusting concept, anyway.
While there's a difference between a "professional" writer and an anonymous guy an a message board, the use of retard as an insult is always in poor form.
I remember they were more PC games- centric but have been increasing the console coverage the last 5 years.
I like Ars, I don't want to see them go away. Perhaps they'll do a little more editing on the contributions. I'll bet they've gotten away from editing as much as they used to, maybe start doing more. Not just proof read, critical editing. Fewer articles, more depth.
Ps2 had 500,000 sell through on day one NA (supply capped). GC sold through 310,000 in NA day one (750,000 shipped). XB original sold 300,00 day one in NA (supply capped). DC dols 376,000 day one NA.
Wii had 600,000 sell through day one NA (supply capped). XB360 sold 326,000 day one NA (supply capped), PS3 sold 197,000 day one NA (not supply capped, 400k were expected to be shipped).
no they are not as famous as george lucas but they are on twitter accounts being representatives of their employer. and its not about me not liking what they say. its the offensive name calling and attacking of their own readership. it is harmful to their business.
I love how the gaming media way of handling criticism is always dismiss the criticism, not debating it and just ad hominem by saying "entitled", "consoletards", "the kids", "fanboys" etc. You don't have to agree with the critics but at least spend a couple of minutes analyzing if it's possible that the criticism has any validity. Gaming media members need to stop believing they are the holders of the TRUTH that have the mercy to share it with peasants like us, because if that was true then the X1 would have the secret sauce, Sony would definitely have the same DRM on the PS4, etc.
It's quite remarkable to see how most of the gaming media actually behave like kids but nothing happens to them. It's probably the only job in the world where you are allowed to throw unsubstantiated rumors, spread misinformation or deny any criticism by dismissing your client and not suffer any consequence.
Maybe Kyle Orland should make another article about "Don't read too much into website/magazines owners accepting gaming media members behaviour in 2013." because the future might not be as bright as they think it is.
It's quite remarkable to see how most of the gaming media actually behave like kids but nothing happens to them. It's probably the only job in the world where you are allowed to throw unsubstantiated rumors, spread misinformation or deny any criticism by dismissing your client and not suffer any consequence.
Maybe Kyle Orland should make another article about "Don't read too much into website/magazines owners accepting gaming media members behaviour in 2013." because the future might not be as bright as they think it is.
Imagine when Apple sold 100 million new iPhone's, Wired writing about how it does not mean anything at all.
Or when Toyota sells 10 million cars, Automotive News writing how it does not mean anything.
Gaming press is the only press that goes against its own readership. It is pretty pathetic.
And the tweets from Ars - amazingly wrong.
VibratingDonkey
Member
Or perhaps more curiously, why did he feel the need to insult his audience and come off like a twat?
edit
Oh, Twitter guy (Lee Hutchinson) and article guy (Kyle Orland) are different guys.
Apologies to the latter for the misguided hostility.
krypt0nian
Banned
Simple. It really seems these "journalist" monkeys cannot seem to be able to deal with finally being called out on their shameful idiocy on the regular by GAF, etc.
They then lash out at the very people that they are responsible to and that indirectly pay their salaries.
Well I mean the ones not being paid by Microsoft, Gies.
dark_prinny
Banned
Channeling Kamiya there bro lol.
"Yet the Xbox 360 went on to be one of the most dominant consoles of its generation"
we have had 3 consoles this gen. and xbox 360 is 3rd (except if he is only talking about US market).
it seems like they want the xbox to come out on top and will say anything. ps4 has done amazing sales of 1m in 24 hrs just in the US. by years end it will have a healthy lead worldwide and then the japan launch next year will extend it.
we have had 3 consoles this gen. and xbox 360 is 3rd (except if he is only talking about US market).
it seems like they want the xbox to come out on top and will say anything. ps4 has done amazing sales of 1m in 24 hrs just in the US. by years end it will have a healthy lead worldwide and then the japan launch next year will extend it.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
When backlash begins, double down, sneer, and insult your reader base.
Was there some western games media seminar all these jokers attended with this game plan plotted out in PowerPoint? Or are games writers hired on the basis of how unable they are to exhibit humility and open mindedness?
"Hey boss, this applicant told someone to go fuck themselves over their choice of popsicle flavour a couple years ago on Myspace! I think he's a shoe in!!"
Was there some western games media seminar all these jokers attended with this game plan plotted out in PowerPoint? Or are games writers hired on the basis of how unable they are to exhibit humility and open mindedness?
"Hey boss, this applicant told someone to go fuck themselves over their choice of popsicle flavour a couple years ago on Myspace! I think he's a shoe in!!"
QuicheFontaine
Member
Nowt wrong with nailing your balls to the floor either.
If you are a weirdo fetishist.
CloakedPuppet
Member
Seems fairly common sense to me that a journalist's job is to rise above the knid of behavior that they find abhorrent.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The funny thing about articles like this is that as much as they rile up Playstation fans, they aren't actually doing Xbox any favours because its dominating the online conversation at a time when MS I'm sure would like to be attracting more attention.
Its kind of like the Streisand Effect where trying to deflect attention is in fact fuelling interest.
Its kind of like the Streisand Effect where trying to deflect attention is in fact fuelling interest.
Click bait is what a lot of these sites rely on, hence they post these type of articles.
This article makes some obvious and sensible points (of course nothing is won etc) but a lot of times titles are inflammatory as can be the wording or sentiment derived from it.
I will no longer be visiting many sites not based a perceived anti PS / MS slant but because I find them irrelevant.
I get better quality discussion and insight from this forum and I don't want to support sites that must rely on / endorse this kind of click bait driven business model.
We will see how this whole generation plays out, I hope for success for all so we still have a healthy industry for another go next gen and many good games on all platforms this generation.
Fuck all the rest of it, I'm done with it.
This article makes some obvious and sensible points (of course nothing is won etc) but a lot of times titles are inflammatory as can be the wording or sentiment derived from it.
I will no longer be visiting many sites not based a perceived anti PS / MS slant but because I find them irrelevant.
I get better quality discussion and insight from this forum and I don't want to support sites that must rely on / endorse this kind of click bait driven business model.
We will see how this whole generation plays out, I hope for success for all so we still have a healthy industry for another go next gen and many good games on all platforms this generation.
Fuck all the rest of it, I'm done with it.
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