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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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Isn't the concept behind the move fault in that case? Hitboxes and Dmg seemed fine to me. Only dat range.....
Wait, are we talking his knee thrust attack? Because the range on that one is the only one I remember being really crazy. I also remember neutral a-air being wild, too.
Oh, should have clarified. I was talking about MK's Tornado
Oh, should have clarified. I was talking about MK's Tornado
Oh, well I think we can all agree that move was insanity. Yeah, I don't think the damage and hitboxes are the problem, it's the move itself. The fact that you can move it across the stage after you start it is the biggest problem, IMO.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, Metaknight's tornado can be tough to fighting against.
Nerf MK and i'm not buying this trash.
For every nerf meta knight gets, everyone else is nerfed twice as hard.
Imagine how boring that game would be. Everyone sucks, except Meta who sucks less.
Hot Coldman
Banned
What the...
The real issues with the move in Brawl are the following:
1) It's impossible to SDI out of it (this is because, I think, either the SDI multiplier for it is really really low or the hitlag multiplier, I forget which, but I'm 80% sure it's SDI multiplier that's super low). Fix this and it's escapable ezpz.
2) It clanks/clashes with moves -- of all the moves that should have had the laser priority on MK it's this move. Having laser priority (meaning a move that cannot clank with anything) allows every single move in the game to trade with it (so long they are quick enough to coming out or have really good hitboxes). A move like DK's Bair could barely get through MK's tornado in Brawl, but with this change, it would always go through it. It blows my mind this was acceptable (the fact it can clank with moves)
Fun fact: the above changes are what Project M did to MK's tornado (obv there's more done to it but those are two very core issues P:M fixes and part of why the move isn't OP anymore).
3) The duration of the move is insane, it should've been way shorter.
4) The mobility of it is crazy, less mobility would make it easier to punish instead of being able to 'nado someone's shield and then move away a few frames before the move ends leading to MK getting away unpunished. The way tornado's current mobility is forces players to stay in their shields the whole time.
To compensate for all those changes, you'd have moves that allow MK to set up into the tornado to make it worthwhile. Sort of as a move that you'd use to give chase or as a finisher to a combo for extra damage.
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Haha wut
10/10
Glorious
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Sakurai's stubbornness was the real reveal to me last night, and with this new information about the balancing, I want Smash to be pushed to 2015. He needs as much time as possible for such a big task, I don't want another Brawl situation.
But I want to play a MP WiiU game in 2014 besides MK8.
There's always patches, at least...
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Sucks for him, because everyone else at Nintendo is embracing them. I'm actually willing to bet that we'll see a major patch for Smash For. sometime in its service life.
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Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
The ad hoc development team causes another issue. Who would even develop the patch?
Assuming Nintendo retains full ownership of the final code (and I'd be surprised if they didn't), HAL could probably maintain it. They're pretty buddy-buddy with Namco right now anyway, so I'd be surprised to see that team completely dissolved.
By the sounds of it from that article, Namco is developing tools to streamline things. So maybe it will be relatively easy to patch? Wishful thinking, I know.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
not nearly muscular
or furry
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Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I have no doubts that Nintendo will own the Smash code, and there shouldn't be any hardware excuses preventing a patch, but this particular scenario would be a first for Nintendo. It isn't impossible, but we really don't have anything to compare it to.
I do like the idea of HAL maintaining Smash, assuming that some of the Melee team is still there.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Obviously if it's character reveal.
If she got confirmed then they would give her a ads shot like they did for most of newcomers.
MercilessMercer
Member
Pic of the day. Super Mario 3D World is out today in Japan! To commemorate the occasion I had these four people(?) come together in a group shot.
This is a little late, but is Luigi using his flutter jump?
That's his scuttle, alright.
MercilessMercer
Member
Er... is that new?
Nah, looks to me like they gave him his jump stance from Galaxy.
I think there was a pic a while back where he introduced it.
Troubled Bat
Member
Its the flutter jump. It was first shown on the 3DS shot of Luigi & Mario on the 3D Land stage.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
that looks more like qq moe
Troubled Bat
Member
Guys a few hours from now and we will get Ganondorf revealed!!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Guys a few hours from now and we will get Ganondorf revealed!!
Please do.
Troubled Bat
Member
Whenever you wake up, you'll have a surprise left for you.
Yes, they are most definifely going to return. You should have no worries!
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Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Zelda/Sheik will be back, and they will be more twilighty than skywardy.
Yup. They'll just be softer, more colorful versions of their TP/Brawl incarnations.
Zelda is in for sure and they I highly doubt they'd boot Sheik at this point.
Zelda's really fun to use, hope she gets a sufficient buff this time.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Whenever you wake up, you'll have a surprise left for you.
Well, I expected to see random image instead of a character reveal in the morning.
Since today would be marked two weeks ever since I won the avatar bet so it's time for a victim to release the terrible avatars and rejoice with the avatar of his choice. I would like to honor two avatars with a moment of silence.
R.I.P AVATARS
Benzychenz
Member
Yeah she's probably my favourite to just muck around as playing with friends.
Throwing fireballs is just so fun!