ArchedThunder
Banned
Brawl also had a bloated development compared to 64 and Melee.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!
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Brawl also had a bloated development compared to 64 and Melee.
WTFFFFF.....Marth is already one of the best characters and his b attack was fine. Now it paralyses, what the fuck are you smoking Sakurai? Tbh I doubt people are still going to use for anything other than recovery since his side attacks are much faster and do a fair bit on the tip as well. That b attack took too long to use and was highlighted by the animations very clearly.
wut??
You didn't know that after a shield breaks, it stuns the character?
SkullHydra
Member
Definitely. The strike took the shield down low, but rarely ever broke it. And if I had damaged the shield already, my opponent would just roll out of the way while I was charging my strike. And Sakurai could've just increased the damage it deals to shields. It may not be too much more powerful to unshielded opponents.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Agreed.
Well, if they are coming out this May, then we still have 6 months for the informations which isn't bad at all.
true
i wonder how much time got reduced for this game by not including SSE
but then again, this game is likely going ot have a bigger roster for both characters and stages
and then there's the insane amount of content it might have just like brawl (you know with billions of musics and other side stuff)
but then again Sakurai did picked Namco to speed up the development process so maybe that release date is possible
i guess we'll wait and see
You're forgetting the most important factor. There are 2 games in development.
The attack was completely useless in Brawl. Even Lv. 1 CPU could easily avoid that lame stab. If Sakurai really wants to bring Shield Breaker back he should restore it to its old Melee glory.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I still don't entirely believe that there's no significant single-player content.
They gutted the best people from the Tales team for this game. They can't just be making art assets.
They gutted the best people from the Tales team for this game. They can't just be making art assets.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
They probably have two different teams working on both consoles. I think it might be easier to transfer the models to 3DS and downsizing them and add the color filters. Problem is that I don't know anything about game development. Yeah, It's my assumption.
I'm pretty sure that there will be single-player contents but they wouldn't announce those modes until we are getting close to release date.
yeah I too think we're getting an adventure mode, just not near the budget SSE had is what i meant
ArchedThunder
Banned
Wait, they did? Huh....
I imagine we might get something like Melee's adventure mode, maybe a bit more advanced, but nothing as big as SSE.
It's super easy to take high res assets and downsize them for the 3DS.
GiantBreadbug
Member
I'm secretly choosing to believe that Sakurai was flat out lying about no SSE-style single player. Even though the SSE was poorly executed, it was still super fuckin cool. Pikachu using Thunder on Ridley to save Samus? Awesome. Mario and Link dodging R.O.B. lasers? Awesome. I think with the Bamco team they could correct a lot of things that weren't so awesome.
And it'd be a shame if they didn't try to fix their mistakes with the single player because Sakurai "Doesn't like it when the cutscenes are spoiled waaaah."
ArchedThunder
Banned
The "People uploaded the cutscenes to Youtube" reason for not doing another single player is super weird, so I'd love if he was just trying to misdirect us, but I don't think he is.
There aren't shadows in this picture because they'll soon introduce shadow
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I'm quite sure the cutscenes to Youtube comment was just Sakurai explaining why cutscenes weren't good rewards for a single player mode. I don't remember the exact quote though so I could be wrong.
the hedhehog
I'm quite sure the cutscenes to Youtube comment was just Sakurai explaining why cutscenes weren't good rewards for a single player mode. I don't remember the exact quote though so I could be wrong.
We already know that assist trophies are back
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Speaking of Tales games, what are the chances of us getting a Tales character? Lloyd or maybe that scrub from Graces?
NeonZ
Member
Well, he could still include a significant single player without it being heavily cutscene focused. Maybe something like Kid Icarus Uprising where most things happen while you play? Or even just an action/adventure mode with minimal story, but more developed content-wise than Melee's few stages.
They could even go completely crazy and do something like an RPG mode, considering all the "Tales of" members on the team. Maybe you play through some kind of mini-Tales-like JRPG with battles changing to Smash's traditional format, rather than attempting to make it an action/platformer game. Something like that could likely be developed in parallel to the main game too, considering how they wouldn't need battle assets/engine for most of the mode's unique content.
That's the part I stopped caring at.
PaulExcellent
Member
Snake... not back? 
MrSaturn99
Member
Yeah, no.
Neat another rumor attention seeker.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Considering Mario IS Jumpman, there is a zero percent chance of that rumor being true. As if Ganondorf being cut didn't discredit it enough.
Shield breaker has always been balanced well. It would typically weaken shields near their breakpoint with a low charge, full charge would always break shield.
After hitting with a low charge you'd incite fear into your opponent and it was still advantageous. If you ever actually scored a shield break, it was HIGHLY REWARDING, and as such shield breaks should definitely not be easier because they are devastating.
If it becomes easier to break shields Marth's game will turn into making good reads into shield breaks and then fully charging tippered forward smashes to likely kill his opponent.
Also every move in Brawl is "easy to dodge", you typically have to make reads, punish, or out prioritize your opponents attacks to land anything in that game that isn't a jab or grab.
After hitting with a low charge you'd incite fear into your opponent and it was still advantageous. If you ever actually scored a shield break, it was HIGHLY REWARDING, and as such shield breaks should definitely not be easier because they are devastating.
If it becomes easier to break shields Marth's game will turn into making good reads into shield breaks and then fully charging tippered forward smashes to likely kill his opponent.
Also every move in Brawl is "easy to dodge", you typically have to make reads, punish, or out prioritize your opponents attacks to land anything in that game that isn't a jab or grab.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I want to announce a new bet to SmashGAF.
It will be against Batty for today. She betted that we will get a character reveal today, so if she lost then she will have to wear the avatar of my choice for a week. If I lost then I will have to wear her choice of avatar or something.
Batty is waiting for Wednesday FOREVEEEERRR!!
It will be against Batty for today. She betted that we will get a character reveal today, so if she lost then she will have to wear the avatar of my choice for a week. If I lost then I will have to wear her choice of avatar or something.
Batty is waiting for Wednesday FOREVEEEERRR!!
ArchedThunder
Banned
Snake... not back?
Even though that rumor is bullshit I still doubt Snake is coming back.
GiantBreadbug
Member
See, I think the format of the SSE was a good idea at its core because it didn't require any real gameplay development apart from the existing Smash Bros. formula. That allowed them to make it a little longer. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but what made SSE stale was the super generic locations, blah enemies, and total lack of voice acting (I'm just saying let's get some "let's-a-go" in those scenes). I'm pretty sure a revamped SSE, with voiced bits, a more involved story, and worlds taken directly from Nintendo franchises would be a true realization of the concept.
Snake... not back?
Snake!? ...SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!
For real. I'll give them credit for making their rumor at least interesting for putting villains in the Adventure Mode even though they already dug their hole by making Ganondorf not playable and forgetting Bowser still is.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm kidding about Ugly Bat. Her losing avatar will be this,
SkullHydra
Member
Maybe they're removing Ganondorf to add a boar Ganon
or Vaati
I want to announce a new bet to SmashGAF.
It will be against Batty for today. She betted that we will get a character reveal today, so if she lost then she will have to wear the avatar of my choice for a week. If I lost then I will have to wear her choice of avatar or something.
Batty is waiting for Wednesday FOREVEEEERRR!!
Yawn, Batty, you're barely ever right, so why try? D:
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
MercilessMercer
Member
Yeah, something in the middle would be perfect for me.
SkullHydra
Member
I kind of want her to lose now.Don't worry. It will be her avatar if she's wrong.
that's not bad is it?
Does anyone have that article from Brawl's development (or whenever else) where Sakurai stated that characters must originate from video games?
yes, I am arguing with someone who thinks otherwise and he wants me to show proof even though the games themselves are god damn proof
I don't even know why I bother with these kind of people lol
yes, I am arguing with someone who thinks otherwise and he wants me to show proof even though the games themselves are god damn proof
I don't even know why I bother with these kind of people lol
I hope he saves most newcomers for the release. And hopefully they aren't spoiled online.