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[Sean*O]

Fellow gaffers,
This is what is happening with regards to MS saying XBO was the fastest selling console in november: If you average 900k across 9 days (from the 22th of nov until the end of nov), you'll get an average of 100k per day, right? In comparison, averaging the amount of PS4 sold in november (lets say it was 1.2 M) requires more days because it was released earlier. So from the 15th of november until the end = 15 days. 1,200,000 / 15 = 800k.
Hope it helps

Do we even know the number of PS4 sold yet?

 

[Uno Venova]

But in December:

I don't know how people are making predictions either way with December not even half over.

 

[hodayathink]

Retail barely up. Software still down. No one won. Just some lost less.

Retail software is down. We have no idea how the software is doing digitally, which may make up for that.

 

[KingFire]

I just want to know if Knack > Mario again. I'm ready to celebrate.

I have never asked for this.

 

[B.O.O.M]

Why would anyone celebrate for Knack?

Well I would find it funny just because the amount of anger some were going through in that UK sales thread just a while back

But as to why anyone would like to see if Knack did well or not..some actually enjoy the game it seems and I'm not about to get on a special high horse to tell them otherwise

 

[ethomaz]

Just me or the 2.1 attach ratio for Xbone (retail + digital) in US is a bit low?

1.9m games sold?

 

[Grisby]

Dead risinnnnnnng.

 

[Gintoki313]

I'm more surprised about how many consoles/handhelds were sold all together last month. That's over 3mill+ sold! I think all 3 companies are dancing right now, regardless of who's beating who.

 

[Manmademan]

So... Are we getting ps4 numbers or not? This is pretty boring lol

it usually takes a little bit before we have exact numbers. Creamsugar has them.

 

[Silky]

Numbers...need....numbers...

 

[Derrick01]

Why would anyone celebrate for Knack?

It's more a celebration for Mario getting beat by something everyone thinks is mediocre (at best) while ignoring that Mario itself is stale and generic.

 

[antonz]

With the explosion of new console sales the fact hardware sales are only up 7% is not a good number and the fact software sales are down over 20% is even worse.

 

[metalslimer]

Gotta say, for a console that:

1) Was apparently $100 too expensive

2) Has yield issues that will affect hardware production

3) Has a camera no one wants

4) A broken OS

The One seems to have sold pretty well.

Were there really that many people besides the people who claimed consoles were all dead that thought the One would do badly during launch?

 

[Magicpaint]

Eek those are terrible 3DS numbers. Last year had no good BF deals and it managed 540k. This year should have been at least double that. Then again there is significantly more competition with the new next gen consoles and just more platforms in general.

Shame no exclusives made the software top 10.

 

[Ishida]

Something something about Mario being old and inferior to the bastion of creativity that is Knack.

No need to be so salty. NO ONE has said that Knack is superior to Mario. But it's hilarious that such a "mediocre" game like Knack sold more than the biggest icon in gaming.

 

[theprodigy]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay?

uh
3.1 million for what
maybe 2DS really isn't included

 

[Mpl90]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay?

...Wouldn't that mean 2DS isn't counted, then?

 

[Slayerx]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay?

Maybe in terms of revenue, not units sold.

 

[Jomjom]

Well, if you average 900k across 9 days (from the 22th of nov until the end of nov), you'll get an average of 100k per day, right? In comparison, averaging the amount of PS4 sold in november (lets say it was 1.2 M) requires more days because it was released earlier. So from the 15th of november until the end = 15 days. 1,200,000 / 15 = 800k. So its just Microsoft playing arrogant

MS's statement is factually incorrect then. To do a valid comparison you would have to also take a 9 day period for the PS4. Even if we assume that the PS4 sold 0 units for the 8 days after launch, they could still say they sold 1 million in those 9 days, which means they still sold "faster" than the Xbox One based on MS's metric of "average sales per day".

If we aren't going to compare with the same period of time, then Sony could also just use their launch day and state, "Over the 1 day period, we sold an average of 1 million units!"

 

[ViewtifulJC]

SMOKEYDAVE POST IF YOU'RE OK

 

[Hindle]

How much did the Wii U sell lol? He'll even the Vita.

 

[C4Lukins]

I super overestimated the 360. Last gen was really ready to die.

 

[shinra-bansho]

uh
3.1 million for what
maybe 2DS really isn't included

3.1M for the PS4, PS3, NDS, Wii, Wii U and PSP.

Maybe in terms of revenue, not units sold.

Hmm, true, didn't think of that.

 

[JABEE]

It's more a celebration for Mario getting beat by something everyone thinks is mediocre (at best) while ignoring that Mario itself is stale and generic.

Have you played the new Mario?

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Who is Creamsugar? Does he have direct access to the data and just posts it in the thread?

creamsugar has access and posts ranges like title > number > title > number, platform xx%

helps a lot with the overall estimates.

 

[Darksol]

Well done Sony!

 

[Nirolak]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay? (Okay as in 300K and not terribad 150K)

I think the DS and Wii might have done decently, since they weren't bad last year.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I don't even know how it's feasible that the 3DS could only have done ~750k. That has to be excluding the 3DS, otherwise that is a HORRIBLE number.

 

[mstevens]

uh
3.1 million for what
maybe 2DS really isn't included

Ps4+PS3+Wii U+2DS?+Vita

 

[Busaiku]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay? (Okay as in 300K and not terribad 150K)

THERE'S HOPE
2DS PLEASE

Oh wait no, no PS4.
RIP 3DS.

 

[Kandrick]

It's more a celebration for Mario getting beat by something everyone thinks is mediocre (at best) while ignoring that Mario itself is stale and generic.

Funny you call Mario generic, because Knack is the epitome of generic.

 

[Hubb]

Will never understand how gamers can root on a company to fail.

Why should Nintendo be rewarded for their handling of the Wii U?

 

[NateDrake]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay? (Okay as in 300K and not terribad 150K)

Wii U will likely be closer to 300k than the 150k figure.

 

[javac]

VGX came too damn late. People couldn't react to the swift news of Cranky Kong. It's consequences will be felt for decades to come next week in magazines.

 

[TheDrowningMan]

Maybe in terms of revenue, not units sold.

I strongly suspect that is the case.

 

[1st Course]

Maybe in terms of revenue, not units sold.

Probably this.

 

[Draconian]

It's more a celebration for Mario getting beat by something everyone thinks is mediocre (at best) while ignoring that Mario itself is stale and generic.

Or more a celebration by an ignorant Gaffer who hasn't even played the game he's complaining about, but whatever floats your boat, man.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

 

[jamesinclair]

Holy shit at two Wii U games selling better than the other platforms, and 3 Wii games topping the charts

 

[Interceptor]

lol this never gets old.

The original is better.

Spoiler

well it was saved after a couple of years

 

[Captain Smoker]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay?

Let's say:

PS4 ~ 1.000.000
PS3 ~ 500.000

That leaves ~1.650.000 units for Vita, Wii U, Wii, NDS

(Unless 3DS is higher)

 

[Windom Earle]

So you come into this thread complaining about people's taste just to trash it up with your own awful taste? Mmkay.

lol, biggest joke of the thread so far

 

[Mory Dunz]

Hmm, just noticed the "best November hardware ever" bit.

I have November 2008 at around 5.45M (if others have other numbers please add or correct).

So far we have XB1, 3DS and 360 at a combined 2.32M.

So the remaining hardware has to make up at least 3.1M or so?

Maybe the Wii U did okay? (Okay as in 300K and not terribad 150K)

yeah, how is it the best November?
(Unless...2DS wasn't uncluded...heh)

 

[noobasuar]

It's more a celebration for Mario getting beat by something everyone thinks is mediocre (at best) while ignoring that Mario itself is stale and generic.

Sounds like a person that's never played 3D world. For the record I didn't think 3D land was all that great and would rank at the bottom for 3D mario's for me.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Gotta say, for a console that:

1) Was apparently $100 too expensive

2) Has yield issues that will affect hardware production

3) Has a camera no one wants

4) Has a broken OS

The One seems to have sold pretty well.

Coming off of the back of the 360 in US, it's not really surprising.

 

[Kusagari]

SMOKEYDAVE POST IF YOU'RE OK

Does "predictions" mean Pachter's ridiculous prediction?

:lol

 

[KillerMan91]

3.1M for the PS4, PS3, NDS, Wii, Wii U and PSP.
Hmm, true, didn't think of that.

PSP making comeback.

 

[Rivver]

The One seems to have sold pretty well.

The one what?

 

[Derrick01]

Funny you call Mario generic, because Knack is the epitome of generic.

You're missing the point. No one is calling Knack amazing.

 

[braves01]

SMOKEYDAVE POST IF YOU'RE OK

He's busy rubbing himself against Vita's rear touchpad.

Spoiler

I like Vita, it's too bad it isn't selling like it should