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Hey GAF again. Long time no see.

I'm not sure if I got a date tomorrow or not... HELP :(

I went to new years party of my work and there's this girl and she is soo nice and beautiful. So I kind of hanged with her the entire night and we had a lot of fun conversations and what not. I offered her to bring her home but she declined - she got to the party with a couple female coworkers of mine and went with them back home.

I'm not great at this so I asked one of my female coworkers for advice about this the next day. She noted the girl in question didn't like me in the way I liked her so it wouldn't be a thing with us. I accepted it and didn't try anything more.

However, recently I've had the feeling she is starting to like me and more. Waiting for me when everybody already left (I still had to do a thing or two at my work before I could leave) and we would have fun conversations about random stuff at the parking lot for 10-15 minutes. Bit blushing and being shy. I somewhat do the same as I've never dated someone. As I had the feeling I saw hope again I started flirting again somewhat.

Last Wednesday we had this random conversation again after waiting for me so we could leave together. Talked about going to a Casino and all - she goes to one once every few months. In her blushing and being shy, she asked me if I wanted to come along with her this Sunday to the Casino to have a fun night. She always went to the Casino with her sister and never asked a boy out (from what I recall). Nor have I.

We left and later on I messaged her to confirm if we would go the Casino, what time on Sunday etc. Her messages came out a bit shy with blushing emoticons and what not. She also noted she couldn't wait to see me again...


So.. Should I consider this a date or not? Even if it's not a date I know I have to be myself. Just that I'm not certain about those things as crossing arms to be a gentleman to her, hugging and giving a kiss on the cheek to say goodnight at the end etc.

In a way I hope it's a date but i'm scared of ruining the entire thing as I'm not certain about it. So far she is just amazing and a fun girl and I like her so far.
 
@Alastor3

Well...its definitely true! People tend to forget about their accomplishments once the good times end. If you, for example have a really hot girlfriend and then lose her later on, you still had enough skill to get her in the first place. That's why I never see any of these things as a lost cause, its all a learning experience. Anyway, glad it motivated you. :)

@DutchNeon

Stop labeling the outing, you're going to freak yourself out. Just see it as a hangout with a girl and go from there. Observe her body language and what she talks about when you're together, then make a call with what to do. But really, just go out and maximize the fun both of you have. Or, really, at the end of it all just bluntly ask her "was this a date?" Have fun. :)
 
Popping in for a quick update (and request for advice if possible), before popping out for another short while...

Short story: Hey Dating-GAF....I'm happy again (that sounds a bit sad, but it's true!). I'm talking to a girl I really like. We both seem to really like each other. Problem? This is a long distance relationship. A REALLY long distance (she's outside the US, if that isn't obvious). Any advice? I guess I know the basic things, and I have some things online I will be reading when I have the time. But I was curious if anyone had any experience/advice for this (saw some mention of it previously). Sorry if it has been talked about frequently, and I just missed it (I never really considered it previously). I haven't outright asked her, but I'm pretty sure she's open to relocating to the US (she might even want that regardless). I have no idea how that will work though (well...I have done some research, but still pretty ignorant on the topic). We are EXTREMELY open and honest with each other (which might be why we started to feel attraction to one another), so we have that going for us.

Long Boring Story: I wasn't planning on doing anything like this. I had practically given up on any kind of relationships, at least for a while (might have touched on this in previous posts). New Year's Day, I decided (on a whim) I would message some people from outside my region on OKC so I could have some new penpals. Already had a few, and I enjoyed our discussions (I like getting different perspectives on certain things that interest me).

I messaged several people, and I actually got a pretty good response rate for once. Great stimulating conversations, and I handed out my email so I could stay in touch with some of them.

I started chatting more and more with one of these penpals. We really seemed to hit it off. On top of being very similar, things just seemed to click when we messaged each other. We started talking more and more, and the topics got more and more personal. Still platonic (at least from my end), but we were doing things like talking about our past relationships (and trying to "heal" each other).

I started getting mixed feelings around this point, but I just told myself to keep it platonic and don't over-think things. She started mentioning that I was the first guy to never ask her for pictures. Intentional on my part, given I wasn't pursuing a relationship. She had a cute picture on OKC (only one), but "ANGLES" and all. I figured she was probably cute, but didn't think much of it. Anyway...she did end up sending me some pictures (not those kind of pictures guys, she's a lady!)...and yeah, she's beautiful.

More internal conflict. At this point, I realized I was probably fighting a losing battle. I don't know if it was the right decision, but I told her that I was interested in her and not just as a penpal. I told her that I was interested in pursuing a long distance relationship with her. I wasn't sure what that would mean, but we could see how things develop and take it from there. Basic point though was that I didn't see her as just a penpal anymore. She felt the same way. I did tell her that I couldn't rule out starting a relationship with someone locally (especially during the initial "getting to know each other (more)" period), but as time goes on, I see this becoming less and less of an issue (at least for me). She's my #1 option, and it will be difficult for me to change my mind on that (if I regret this later, so be it). The distance between us seems to be only real hold-up. Unfortunately, that is a big deal.

Since then, we've been IMing and talking on the phone more and more (using VoIP of course, so free calls). Like 3-4 hours a day, if not more (I've spent most of today talking/chatting with her). We might burn out a bit at some point (we're both so tired since I think we stay up too late talking to each other), but hopefully we can keep up this frequent communication. As much as we've talked, I still feel like there is so much more to talk about with her.

This has kind of escalated quicker than I was expecting. I don't want to go to overboard with this. But I don't know how patient I can be. I'm already trying to figure out a way to meet her in person. Whether than means her visiting me or vice versa. I think we'd probably both prefer the former (if possible), but I'll probably take what I can get. Is this too soon? Is there such thing as too soon? I don't even have a passport yet, so probably will be a decent wait regardless (if I have to leave the country).

Yeah, hopefully no Manti Te'o situation going on. I've been skeptical since day one about how "good" things seemed, but at this point, if this is something like that, I'll just tip my hat and go along with it. Bravo.
 

I don't have much in the way of advice, but; go for it. In my experience you don't find somebody you have such a connection with very easily. When you do at least give it a shot. If you think you can manage with mostly talking online...why the hell not? As far as I know though, migrating into the US is really really complicated. Best of luck man.
 
New to this thread, but hope I can get some feedback on my date I had today.

I went to the movies today with this girl I met online. We both arrived early so we had around 45 minutes to talk before seeing the movie. Probably worth mentioning, both of us are pretty shy and haven't really dated or been with someone else before.

Anyway, it being the first time we met in real life, obviously there was some awkwardness and nervousness. But we talked in a pleasant and upbeat manner until the movie started. Now this the point where I kinda feel like things went downhill.

First off the movie itself, wolf of wallstreet, I had only really seen the trailer and thought it looked like a fun, silly movie. Which it was in a lot of scenes. But there was so much graphic nudity and sex, that I couldn't help but feel that it was probably not the best film for a first date.

Another thing during the movie itself, I never caught her looking or glancing at me during the entire movie.

Then, once the movie ended, we went outside. And I asked her if she would be interested in meeting again. And while she did say something like that might be possible (english isn't our language so perfect translation of what she said isn't possible). It didn't really feel like she was super excited about the prospect.

And then for the goodbye part ( and the part that I feel like is a dead giveaway that's she's not at all interested in me ). Basically she lives in a pretty small town little under and hour away, and she had to take the train to and from our date. Knowing this I obviously offered to drive her to the train station as I have a car and it's quite cold here currently. And she turns the offer down, saying that she might as well take the bus since she'd otherwise just have to wait around for the train at the trainstation even longer if I drove her straight to the station ( they only run ever 2 hours ). At which point we hug each other, say goodbye and part ways.

So she basically choose to walk in cold windy weather to a busstation, where she had to wait for the bus to arrive, which she would then have to pay money to ride on. Rather than let me give her a ride straight to the trainstation.

I should note that she was very polite the entire time. Even when she turned down my offer of a carride

But yeah, that's basically it. Kinda hoping someone with more experience could give me their oppinion on exactly what and how much I should take away from how the date turned out based on what I've described in this post. Because despite how I perceived the date, I'm simply not experienced enough to know for certain if this girl just simply isn't interested at all. Or if it's just a matter of a girl, who herself is shy and an inexperienced dater, and unsure of what to do in the given situations.
 
New to this thread, but hope I can get some feedback on my date I had today.

I went to the movies today with this girl I met online. We both arrived early so we had around 45 minutes to talk before seeing the movie. Probably worth mentioning, both of us are pretty shy and haven't really dated or been with someone else before.

Anyway, it being the first time we met in real life, obviously there was some awkwardness and nervousness. But we talked in a pleasant and upbeat manner until the movie started. Now this the point where I kinda feel like things went downhill.

First off the movie itself, wolf of wallstreet, I had only really seen the trailer and thought it looked like a fun, silly movie. Which it was in a lot of scenes. But there was so much graphic nudity and sex, that I couldn't help but feel that it was probably not the best film for a first date.

Another thing during the movie itself, I never caught her looking or glancing at me during the entire movie.

Then, once the movie ended, we went outside. And I asked her if she would be interested in meeting again. And while she did say something like that might be possible (english isn't our language so perfect translation of what she said isn't possible). It didn't really feel like she was super excited about the prospect.

And then for the goodbye part ( and the part that I feel like is a dead giveaway that's she's not at all interested in me ). Basically she lives in a pretty small town little under and hour away, and she had to take the train to and from our date. Knowing this I obviously offered to drive her to the train station as I have a car and it's quite cold here currently. And she turns the offer down, saying that she might as well take the bus since she'd otherwise just have to wait around for the train at the trainstation even longer if I drove her straight to the station ( they only run ever 2 hours ). At which point we hug each other, say goodbye and part ways.

So she basically choose to walk in cold windy weather to a busstation, where she had to wait for the bus to arrive, which she would then have to pay money to ride on. Rather than let me give her a ride straight to the trainstation.

I should note that she was very polite the entire time. Even when she turned down my offer of a carride

But yeah, that's basically it. Kinda hoping someone with more experience could give me their oppinion on exactly what and how much I should take away from how the date turned out based on what I've described in this post. Because despite how I perceived the date, I'm simply not experienced enough to know for certain if this girl just simply isn't interested at all. Or if it's just a matter of a girl, who herself is shy and an inexperienced dater, and unsure of what to do in the given situations.


Cinema for a first date is pretty much the worst thing you can do. Especially if you've never met before. Going out for drinks or coffee, or to a gallery or museum, hell even just a walk somewhere are all much better things to do.

My advice would be to ask her out again if you're interested, instead of overanalysing how the date went. Given that she's inexperienced and shy, maybe she thought the offer of a lift was too forward and might lead to something else, or maybe she just wasn't interested. Only way to know for sure is to ask her out again!
 
Cinema for a first date is pretty much the worst thing you can do. Especially if you've never met before. Going out for drinks or coffee, or to a gallery or museum, hell even just a walk somewhere are all much better things to do.

My advice would be to ask her out again if you're interested, instead of overanalysing how the date went. Given that she's inexperienced and shy, maybe she thought the offer of a lift was too forward and might lead to something else, or maybe she just wasn't interested. Only way to know for sure is to ask her out again!

I've both seen people say cinema for first date is good and bad. But yeah after today I'm probably joining the side of people that's agains't movies for first dates. The part before the movie where we just talked a bit was definitely the best part i felt.

I guess I'll call her tomorrow or monday and see if she's open to a second date.
 
So my friend is married. He and his ex-gf are still friends. Their like best friends. The wife doesn't mind.
The EX wants to be FWB with him and she doesn't mind he's married. Obviously he's already cheated on his wife but he's asked me if he should continue it or end it. I know it's wrong to cheat, especially if you're married. But the EX even said to him, lets make a schedule where they only meet 2 times a week on a certain day/time. Their really into each other physically(lust).
What would you do GAF?
 
So my friend is married. He and his ex-gf are still friends. Their like best friends. The wife doesn't mind.
The EX wants to be FWB with him and she doesn't mind he's married. Obviously he's already cheated on his wife but he's asked me if he should continue it or end it. I know it's wrong to cheat, especially if you're married. But the EX even said to him, lets make a schedule where they only meet 2 times a week on a certain day/time. Their really into each other physically.
What would you do GAF?
What the fuck? NO. That wife deserves better.
 
It's different and that's good. Today I opened two girls with "Hey, do you know how much a polar bear weighs?" and one of them actually knew the punny answer
(enough to break the ice)
and they both liked it. I also decided to be a bit bold and rewrite four girls that had never responded during the previous week with "Didn't your mom teach you that it's rude not to answer someone when they're trying to talk to you? ;)" 50% success rate so far. Sometimes you just gotta be a bit bad boyish and call them out on being boring.

Ha ha. Nice one.

The key is confidence and belief in yourself. Believing that women want you, and are attracted to you.
 
So I've decided I'm going to try and contact my ex. It's been 6 months since I last seen her and I can't forget about her and move on.

If we get back together thats great, if not at least I tried.

I feel like this is best for me, don't try to convince me otherwise.
 
Any tips for broke guys in the game? I simply can't afford to date right now, but I enjoy women to much to go on a dating hiatus. Any ideas? You're expected to not only take them out, but pay as well. My wallet can't handle any more restaurants damn it.
 
Any tips for broke guys in the game? I simply can't afford to date right now, but I enjoy women to much to go on a dating hiatus. Any ideas? You're expected to not only take them out, but pay as well. My wallet can't handle any more restaurants damn it.

There are things you can do that doesn't require money, but don't expect it to be lavish.

Could go on nature walks, hikes, cook for her (saves restaurant money). Watching a movie at her place or yours instead of the cinema.

It's not a long list, but it should suffice. You also might wanna step up your game and work harder. Us men are seen as the 'breadwinners' and thus are kinda pressured to have $ to impress the ladies.
 
Cinema for a first date is pretty much the worst thing you can do. Especially if you've never met before. Going out for drinks or coffee, or to a gallery or museum, hell even just a walk somewhere are all much better things to do.

My advice would be to ask her out again if you're interested, instead of overanalysing how the date went. Given that she's inexperienced and shy, maybe she thought the offer of a lift was too forward and might lead to something else, or maybe she just wasn't interested. Only way to know for sure is to ask her out again!

I took my GF of almost 6 years (now fiancee) to a cinema for our first date. Then again we knew each other aleady so maybe that changes things.
 
So I've decided I'm going to try and contact my ex. It's been 6 months since I last seen her and I can't forget about her and move on.

If we get back together thats great, if not at least I tried.

I feel like this is best for me, don't try to convince me otherwise.

So we just finished chatting on FB. It went well I guess. She agreed to meeting up with me, but said she was pretty busy this upcoming week so we didn't agree on a day or time.

I'm optimistic about this but kind of concerned that we didn't set a time to meet. I hope she doesn't just keep saying she is busy to avoid me.
 
I actually have "plans" for a movie date on monday, seeing hobbit 2 with someone I've never met. I agree it's a bad idea and there's a 9 year difference. I don't even know if she looks good or not (hard to tell from a couple of online pics) but it'll be fun to have the achievement I guess ;)
 
So we just finished chatting on FB. It went well I guess. She agreed to meeting up with me, but said she was pretty busy this upcoming week so we didn't agree on a day or time.

I'm optimistic about this but kind of concerned that we didn't set a time to meet. I hope she doesn't just keep saying she is busy to avoid me.

Why did you guys breakup?
 
So. First time posting here. Just moved to a new town. When out to buy some stuff with my mother since I'm helping her out. And met an incredibly cute girl, super awesome, cashier. So. We talked about cooking and what not, all smiles and it was just super nice. Bought my stuff and left with a huge smile on my face. So, I want to go back sometime and ask her out, is this taboo? I'm not sure how to proceed here. Haha, just really liked her.
 
Was she the cashier that you paid or a random staff member working the aisles? Either way, yeah why not go for it? Keep in mind though that while it was friendly and nice, she IS being paid to be friendly no matter what. So with any kind of staff member in any kind of store, it's way harder to know for sure if they're into you or not. But as long as you don't make it awkward or get your feelings hurt over a potential no, you'll be fine. There's no reason not to ask her honestly.
 
Was she the cashier that you paid or a random staff member working the aisles? Either way, yeah why not go for it? Keep in mind though that while it was friendly and nice, she IS being paid to be friendly no matter what. So with any kind of staff member in any kind of store, it's way harder to know for sure if they're into you or not. But as long as you don't make it awkward or get your feelings hurt over a potential no, you'll be fine. There's no reason not to ask her honestly.

She was both. Oh yeah, I understand that much, we did continue talking while she took the person on the next purchase, but I'm really trying not look to much into it, it was just nice having a great conversation. It's that not making it awkward that'll be hard, but I'll figure something. Sounds good, next time I drop by the store I'll ask her out on coffee, thanks for the tip! I get caught up on properness and stuff way to much tbh.
 
I took my GF of almost 6 years (now fiancee) to a cinema for our first date. Then again we knew each other aleady so maybe that changes things.

Yeh if you already know each other then it is different, but if you don't then it doesn't give you the opportunity to talk and find out more about each other. I think it's better to save the cinema till after you've had maybe 3 or 4 dates. Watching a film at home is even better though, for obvious reasons!
 
@kakashi08

Slap your friend, he's being a huge scumbag. If he's gonna go boink his ex then he should have the human decency to end it with his wife. Man, people sometimes.
 
Any tips for broke guys in the game? I simply can't afford to date right now, but I enjoy women to much to go on a dating hiatus. Any ideas? You're expected to not only take them out, but pay as well. My wallet can't handle any more restaurants damn it.

Why are you expected to pay for them? The last few women I've gone out with have wanted to split the check. Maybe I'm going for different types of women though.
 
Why are you expected to pay for them? The last few women I've gone out with have wanted to split the check. Maybe I'm going for different types of women though.

Yeh I wouldn't expect a guy to pay for me, but I would happily pay if I knew he was skint. Offering to pay is a nice gesture but I'd almost certainly decline. Or I'd get the next one.
 
Hmm need some help
We dont really see each other anymore. I'm piled with work for another 2 weeks and she's busy when I do have time to ask her to go somewhere. Talking and texting are pretty much a occasional. Things are pretty much at a low right now so what can I do to turn things around. I'm pretty the only one trying to reach out.
 
I don't have much in the way of advice, but; go for it. In my experience you don't find somebody you have such a connection with very easily. When you do at least give it a shot. If you think you can manage with mostly talking online...why the hell not? As far as I know though, migrating into the US is really really complicated. Best of luck man.
Thanks. Yeah, that's been my thoughts about it. I know it will be tough, but I don't want to let distance get in the way of us. I think we both naturally communicate well online (lots of fun for both of us), so I don't think that should be a problem, especially if we throw in the occasional phone call and/or video chat. I'm concerned about the efforts it might take to relocate to the US (as you mentioned), but I guess I'll just worry about that later. Let's see if this is a relationship that even calls for such efforts.

We video chatted last night for the first time (~2 hours, followed by another hour plus on the phone). I wasn't too concerned, but I think she wanted me to see the "real" her or something ("Do I look like those pictures?"). It was fun. :) I kept telling her that her hair was fine, she wasn't fat, her butt looks good (hehe), she was just as pretty as those pictures, etc. She seems a little too self-critical at times, though I think part of this is due to someone she knows who was recommending her a lot of plastic surgery. Hey, how nice of them? :\

Fun to finally see her smiling and laughing (in motion, unlike still pictures). Also picking up on her little mannerisms, like twirling her fingers in her hair. So cute, and it put a smile on my face. Would be nice to be there in-person, but this could be a nice substitute.


Ugh...just so tired from staying up chatting. Damn timezones.
 
@RC_Cola

Relocating yourself for a person is always tricky. I'd STRONGLY recommend you test the waters first and see what weeks or a month together gets you, do not commit right-out-the-bat with complete relocation. She may not be what you think or imagine she is. Also, based on your post I'd like to point out one note of caution: be careful around people with low self-esteem (she may or may not it have given her constant need for approval). People who think less of themselves often enter into relationships for the wrong reasons, namely that they feel insecure and doubt they'll meet someone else.

Regardless of which one of you is going to relocate, you should absolutely do a test-run first. Go somewhere together for a few weeks, see how it works. Then, and only then, should either of you make a full commitment to moving out of your respective countries.

Good luck!
 
Super important talk tomorrow morning that might save or break what I'd call my first actual love since 5-6 years. Wish me luck GAF. Will tell you more afterwards.
 
@RC_Cola

Relocating yourself for a person is always tricky. I'd STRONGLY recommend you test the waters first and see what weeks or a month together gets you, do not commit right-out-the-bat with complete relocation. She may not be what you think or imagine she is. Also, based on your post I'd like to point out one note of caution: be careful around people with low self-esteem (she may or may not it have given her constant need for approval). People who think less of themselves often enter into relationships for the wrong reasons, namely that they feel insecure and doubt they'll meet someone else.

Regardless of which one of you is going to relocate, you should absolutely do a test-run first. Go somewhere together for a few weeks, see how it works. Then, and only then, should either of you make a full commitment to moving out of your respective countries.

Good luck!
Oh definitely. I might want to discuss relocation at some point soon, but I don't have any plans to push forward with a complete relocation anytime soon. If I'm relocating, I'd definitely want to visit her several times (and wherever I'd be relocating too). That would be...a very lengthy time period.

She does not seem very happy with where she's at (nor would I to be perfectly honest). I might be reading her wrong, but I'd assume if this is going to work, either she'd be relocating or we'd both be relocating...to somewhere. I'd like to have several weeks (if not much more) with her before any decisions are made to relocate permanently. She'd have other reasons to relocate here (or the US in general), so it might not be as big of a deal for her (though as stated, I don't know if it would be easy to do so).

Yeah, I'm not sure if it was low self esteem, or if I just misread her. She generally hasn't exhibited those king of things before (she's been humble, and downplayed my compliments at times, but that's about it). She might have just played up those things since this was the first time we'd seen each other like that. She's pretty damn confident of herself in other areas I think (while remaining reasonably humble). I think we both have had doubts about whether we'd find someone, and I think both of us are aware of the feelings associated with this. This seems to do more with the fact that we rarely find people we "connect" with though (we are pretty unique in certain ways), and not because we think we're not "good enough" for someone. That might mean we're overeager to jump into things when it seems we found that person we can connect with, but I think we're both aware of that and will stick to "reason" over emotion when possible (though this obviously involves a lot of emotion).

You're right that it is something to be cautious about. Hmm...I might even bring some of this up the next time we talk just to be clear.

Thanks!
 
Got a number from Tinder. Things are happening. 😎

Super important talk tomorrow morning that might save or break what I'd call my first actual love since 5-6 years. Wish me luck GAF. Will tell you more afterwards.
Good luck! Don't sweat it.
 
@RC_Cola

I don't know if I'd recommend you bring up the cautious point I mentioned, you're better off finding out the answer when you meet her. If she's with you for pure and honest reasons it will show. Don't question her affection for you directly, it was more just a point of caution given by circumstances through which you met (and the subsequent events that followed). Just continue having fun and chatting, focus on everything else when you're with her in person.
 
Well yeah, I wouldn't put it like that (and I don't question her affection for me). I just was talking about discussing her self-esteem. Is she too self-critical of herself, or did I just take it the wrong way? Perhaps I might just mention it if I notice her saying those kind of things some more.
 
Hey GAF,

Thanks stn for the advice! The date went great and I'm pretty sure it was a date.

She is still pretty shy and somewhat insecure. I met her parents and her mom told me I was always welcome... I think she told a bit about me haha.

So we went to the Casino and we were just laughing in the car talking about pretty much anything - our driving exam experience, how our work was etc. She even made some mistakes while driving to be in the conversation which was pretty cute. Even apologizing about it and laughing (heater at max while we had warm clothes in the car, wrong gear while shifting etc).

Acted like myself, being a bit more gentleman to her by opening doors and walking close to her, which she appreciated. Also some compliments about how she looked (she wears glasses but they look great on her) and she did to me too. Heck she likes my freckles!

We played slot machines next to each other, even combining our money to play on slot machine and all with chatter in between about anything. Our experiences, what I thought of this and what she thought of it, the somewhat sad moments in our life etc. I learned her and she learned me which was great (though to be honest she was talking more then me - which was funny because I tend to talk way too much - but I actually like that of her. There was like no silence whatsoever between us.). Even had some funny similarities like being scared to drive on the highway at times.

Eventually she teached me multi poker while I was sitting next to her. She would show me her hand and I could decide etc. She would hang her head on my shoulders at times and we had our legs against each other).

In the end she won some money (she had a lot of luck) and I didn't win anything. She was pretty cool about it and even offered me some extra money to play, but I convinced her to play it together so we could both earn 50/50 which was more fun!

She drove home and we did the same thing, chatting about anything. We were pretty nervous at the start and she still was at the end but it's pretty cute to see her make mistakes. I told her she really shouldn't worry about it :)

Gave her a hug and 3 kisses on her cheek and told her good night. Complimented eachother and how the evening went. She was tired and her neck hurt a lot so she asked me if I wouldn't mind that she would go to bed straight away. I had no probs. Eventually forgot and kind of yelled (was walking to my car) if she would want to go out again with me and she yelled "Yes, ofcourse!" with a bit of shy laughter.

Eventually texted her to thank her for the great evening and that she looked just great and something work related (I would help her a lot if I would take a shift over in the upcoming days) and got a text back pretty much stating the same (long text).

I think it was successful date, was it? This was my first date ever and I think this might result in something which is great! There was no silence moment during the date. So far I've been rejected 3-4 times and I'm not the most handsome person but damm, I'm happy about this and the great evening I've had!

Thanks GAF and stn!

I think I'll ask her in the upcoming days if she wants to go out for a second date - any ideas? I've not asked her if this was a date but I think it was.
 
GAF, how do you try to start up a convo with girls in your class that you don't know? I'm n a new class this sem that has nearly 200 students with most of the girls siting in a group and it's difficult to sit close to them. Any ideas?
 
GAF, how do you try to start up a convo with girls in your class that you don't know? I'm n a new class this sem that has nearly 200 students with most of the girls siting in a group and it's difficult to sit . Any ideas?

sit next to a girl and start to chat? doesn't matter if she's in a group a not...you can just participate....
 
Any tips for broke guys in the game? I simply can't afford to date right now, but I enjoy women to much to go on a dating hiatus. Any ideas? You're expected to not only take them out, but pay as well. My wallet can't handle any more restaurants damn it.

It's 2014 man. I would find it very strange if I was expected to pay for everything on a date. Unless you're in another country outside of North America with a different dating culture.
 
Any tips for broke guys in the game? I simply can't afford to date right now, but I enjoy women to much to go on a dating hiatus. Any ideas? You're expected to not only take them out, but pay as well. My wallet can't handle any more restaurants damn it.

Do you live in a larger city? There is constantly free shit happening in Houston. My girlfriend was out of work for a period when we started dating. When it was her turn to pick things we did all the free stuff ever. Yoga, museums, movies (free showings at the park), art showings, bike rides, hiking, dancing on no cover nights. Just gotta be creative and open to new things.
 
It's 2014 man. I would find it very strange if I was expected to pay for everything on a date. Unless you're in another country outside of North America with a different dating culture.

On one hand I agree with you, but on the other hand if I was asked out on a date by the guy....at least the first date, I would expect him to pay. I may offer to pay half, but most of the time for a first date the person who asks the other person out on a date should pay.

GAF, how do you try to start up a convo with girls in your class that you don't know? I'm n a new class this sem that has nearly 200 students with most of the girls siting in a group and it's difficult to sit close to them. Any ideas?

Pay them a compliment or if one of these girls brings up an interesting point about a class topic you could always start with, "I really liked what you had to say about such and such, what are your feelings on blank?"
 
Any tips for broke guys in the game? I simply can't afford to date right now, but I enjoy women to much to go on a dating hiatus. Any ideas? You're expected to not only take them out, but pay as well. My wallet can't handle any more restaurants damn it.

Don't date right now. Focus on your career. If you don't get your finances in order that'll lead to all sorts of inferiority issues you'll possibly feel in the future. Get your life set. Worry about chasin' skirt later.
 
Why should dating be expensive? I've been seeing this girl for 2 weeks and I've spent a total of $4 when we met at a tea house. Since then, we've just been staying inside, cooking together, and we're planning on doing some outdoor activities (which don't cost anything). Not that either of us doesn't have money, but dating doesn't need to be about expensive dinners and outings.
 
On one hand I agree with you, but on the other hand if I was asked out on a date by the guy....at least the first date, I would expect him to pay. I may offer to pay half, but most of the time for a first date the person who asks the other person out on a date should pay.

Sooo...if you asked a guy out on a date you'd offer to pay for everything yourself? I've been on quite a few "dates" which is just getting to know eachother better, and luckily each and every one of them offered to pay at least a part of the drinks. I usually end up paying a bit more, and thats ok. But everyone who actually expects me to pay for them can sod right of. We all have a job, so the bill should be split.
 
If you invite someone out, you should be prepared to pay for it, the whole thing. If they invite you, you should expect to pay half. People who go in with that mindset are always a-okay.

It'll be obvious during the date if it's someone who doesn't mind quiet nights being thrifty, or if they need a taste of the finer things in life. It's up to you to adjust on the fly.
 
Sooo...if you asked a guy out on a date you'd offer to pay for everything yourself? I've been on quite a few "dates" which is just getting to know eachother better, and luckily each and every one of them offered to pay at least a part of the drinks. I usually end up paying a bit more, and thats ok. But everyone who actually expects me to pay for them can sod right of. We all have a job, so the bill should be split.

No. I'm a woman. If we're talking about the first date and someone asked me on the date, I would expect them to pay. Would I also offer to pay part of the bill? Yeah.

I'm just answering from my past experiences. I've asked one guy if he wanted to take me out sometime, and that guy is now my husband. Did he pay for the first date? Yes. Did I offer to pay my share? Yes. Did he accept it? Nope.
 
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