kutthoat5150
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my creative SB Xi-Fi sound card, I really don't hear much difference from my standard motherboard audio with my Senheisser headphones
Gaming PC building regrets!! =^{
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terrdactycalsrock
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I bought an I5 processer that cant really be overclocked. Its a decent CPU right now, but I know its going to be the first thing that needs an upgrade. If I could do it all over again, I would've just went for a i7 4770k
Since I've all but given up on PC gaming these days the last PC I built was this:
Aside from the cost, it wasn't a bad build overall but for some reason I thought a RAID 5 array on my desktop machine was a great idea... until the RAID controller card stopped working. I managed to get a replacement but then a while later I wanted to upgrade to windows 7 and the drivers didn't work for shit.
This is still the PC I have now (albeit with windows 7 on a single 1tb HDD). Nowadays it sits pretty much unused while I do all my computing from a Macbook and gaming on consoles!
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Product Quantity Price
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Pioneer DVR-111DBK Black 16x16 DVD± 1 £15.49
Samsung Black, 48x CD-ROM46x DVD-R 1 £9.89
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, Socket 775, 1 £164.99
640MB BFG Technology 8800GTS PCI-E 1 £219.99
320 Gb Seagate ST3320620AS Barracu 5 £50.99
Highpoint RocketRaid 2320 PCI-E 8Ch 1 £159.95
2GB (2x1GB) CorsairTwinX XMS2, DDR2 1 £126.99
620W Corsair HX Series Modular SLi 1 £84.99
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premiu 1 £58.25
Antec P180 Advanced Super Midi Towe 1 £69.89
Zalman CNPS9500-AT Intel LGA775 Aer 1 £27.49
Gigabyte GA 965P-DQ6 iP965, S775, P 1 £107.49
2GB Corsair USB2 19MB/s Read, 13MB/ 1 £12.99
10pcs Aone Cakebox Dual Layer DVD+D 1 £5.77
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Nett total £1,319.12
Carriage £24.62
VAT £235.16
Total £1,578.90Aside from the cost, it wasn't a bad build overall but for some reason I thought a RAID 5 array on my desktop machine was a great idea... until the RAID controller card stopped working. I managed to get a replacement but then a while later I wanted to upgrade to windows 7 and the drivers didn't work for shit.
This is still the PC I have now (albeit with windows 7 on a single 1tb HDD). Nowadays it sits pretty much unused while I do all my computing from a Macbook and gaming on consoles!
dragonlife
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Haha. This is exactly what I came to say.
Yeah, bit miffed about my 680 only having 2 gig Vram. If another option was available at launch, I would have snagged it. Haven't run into much trouble with any game yet, but I have a feeling this years crop is going to put a hurt on the 2 gigs'.
But, it's new rig building year! Around every 2 years in August / September, I build a new beast, so hopefully Nvidia (or possible AMD this time) has their shit together and puts out some monster cards.
But, it's new rig building year! Around every 2 years in August / September, I build a new beast, so hopefully Nvidia (or possible AMD this time) has their shit together and puts out some monster cards.
LumpOfCole
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They told me the GTX 480 was powerful but made noise and ran hot. "Fuck it, I can deal with heat and noise" I said.
I might have well just stuck a nuclear vacuum cleaner in my computer.
I might have well just stuck a nuclear vacuum cleaner in my computer.
Bought a Avermedia game capture hd card a few weeks ago. What a piece of shit is that oldskool 3.5mm plugs for sound a lot of hassle with wires and rerouting your videofeed from your GPU to that card but the sound like i said it's only Stereo no 5.1 Surround tha fuck? Glad i got my money back from amazon bought a Elgato instead.
Shrike Alvaron
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^This for me. My Blu-Ray drive was actually a last minute decision I placed after ordering the rest of the components, but I don't think I've EVER used it. Hell, I actually forgot it's also a DVD Burner. Now that I've rediscovered that feature I'll probably remove my DVD drive sometime and just use the Blu-Ray drive, but it's kind of a waste to not actually play Blu-Rays with it.
...However, this looks promising. It's pretty much exactly what I've always been looking for, don't know how I haven't found it yet. I'll be giving it a try!
Another big regret is the first case I got. To the surprise of many I'm sure, it was a Silverstone FT02:
Yes, I regret getting what many consider the best case on the market. Why? It's just so damn huge and unwieldy! Its massive length annoys me as I can't put it on my desk and on the floor it sticks out past my desk so I was always running into it. The ports being on top and under the removable piece were also very annoying to get to, and then the front USB ports went and died (at least, they'd constantly disconnect stuff plugged into them and no it wasn't the board as I checked that connection multiple times). The lack of space behind the motherboard also drove me crazy, I could just barely fit the side panel on and the cables left permanent indents on the foam sound dampening material. Because of how the exterior bays are designed to be toolless it meant that a fan controller I was using then (...also something I regret buying due to just being a huge pain in the end with cables running literally everywhere) that wasn't full depth was a pain to install. And finally, with the dust filters being INSIDE the case it meant I rarely cleaned them out as you have to remove the entire side panel to get to them (okay my new case isn't much better here but still slightly more convenient).
So, last June I switched to a Corsair Air 540 and have been loving it:
It is significantly wider, but that's not so much an issue for me. The much smaller depth (even smaller than most cases thanks to the dual compartment design) means it fits perfectly on my desk. It's a bit louder (possibly due to me not using the fan controller anymore either...), gets dustier faster, and isn't as sturdy as the FT02 but over all I MUCH prefer it for general ease of use.
So now I have the old FT02 just sitting in my closet. Too big to sell online and too expensive to trash. If anyone lives in the St. Louis area and wants to buy it for cheap, well, I really want to get it off my hands...
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
buying a 670 right before the 7 series came out -__-
The Hermit
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I regret buying my GTX 670 2 years ago, because it made me buy much more games than I could play.
I have vsync off but it doesn't really matter.I play with 2xmsaa so I obviously will have worse framerate than you(I wasn't clear in my first post what settings I have but you was comparing 770 performance to r 290 so I thought that we are talking about some higher settings ).It's perfectly playable but there are levels like that second mission in shanghai when even without msaa framerate can dip.In multiplayer the reason for dips may be my cpu without OC.
But I still think that somebody with r 290 should achieve 60fps+ even with msaa.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
No custom air filters at first fml first world problem.
Bought some nice 70 dollar custom filters for my 500R about a few days after rig was together.
Bought some nice 70 dollar custom filters for my 500R about a few days after rig was together.
Cannon Goose
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I really wish I had got a K model CPU and a motherboard that allowed overclocking. But it was my first PC and I didn't have an endless amount of cash, so considering those factors I'm still very pleased with what I've got.
ab.aeterno
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Going for the 3570k instead of the 3770k. I felt like nothing I had was making use of hyper threading on my old 870, so why would I need it? Of course, now more and more games are better at threading, and I'm doing more computationally heavy work where more brute force would be handy.
Forever regretting that decision.
Forever regretting that decision.
DurielBlack
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No regrets other than not being able to spend even more money for the more extreme stuff.
Wanted a RAID setup and even faster graphics cards, but didn't have the $$. Those are things that can be upgraded later anyways if I feel like it.
Wanted a RAID setup and even faster graphics cards, but didn't have the $$. Those are things that can be upgraded later anyways if I feel like it.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
what games are held back by the 3570k? also, have you overclocked it?
Hip Hop
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I have a GTX 670, i5 3570k, and 8gb RAM.
All is well but when I got my parts in late 2012,
I ordered a very generic and cheap case for some reason. My PC just doesn't look badass as it's supposed to be:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
All is well but when I got my parts in late 2012,
I ordered a very generic and cheap case for some reason. My PC just doesn't look badass as it's supposed to be:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
BIGWORM
Member
Had current rig configured as:
i5 750 @ 3.8
8GB DDR3
eVGA P55 SLi
SB X-Fi Titanium
...and a GTX 260. This card was OK for the old e8400 setup I had, but with my current rig listed above, it was a major bottleneck. Eventually, when my VRAM fried and had to RMA the card, I received a GTX 550 Ti which, though it was almost the same output, the VRAM made loading a ton faster.
I had just upgraded to a GTX 660 in March, and I'm looking to upgrade that in a near future...maybe tax time? I'm not sure.
i5 750 @ 3.8
8GB DDR3
eVGA P55 SLi
SB X-Fi Titanium
...and a GTX 260. This card was OK for the old e8400 setup I had, but with my current rig listed above, it was a major bottleneck. Eventually, when my VRAM fried and had to RMA the card, I received a GTX 550 Ti which, though it was almost the same output, the VRAM made loading a ton faster.
I had just upgraded to a GTX 660 in March, and I'm looking to upgrade that in a near future...maybe tax time? I'm not sure.
Metalmurphy
Member
Just did some benchmarking:
Results are actually weird cause Railway actually felt worst then Paracel did while playing.
Metalmurphy
Member
i5 750 @ 3.2Ghz. All the searching I did before hand told me that it wouldn't be that BIG of a bottleneck :/
Shorty11857
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The motherboard I got doesn't support overclocking, which is great considering the person who recommended it to me also recommended a new CPU fan because I was planning to overclock
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Having dual Quadro's as video cards, I'm not impressed with them really...I'd much rather gaming cards to do quad screen and PC gaming being reignited for me.
I've been thinking of selling them as I don't have to use their work functions that much any more.
I've been thinking of selling them as I don't have to use their work functions that much any more.
Yeah, that's your issue right there.
A lot of people don't understand that FPS =/= Performance. It's a decent way to get a good look of what is roughly going on, but it fails to capture where the system is really hanging up, as it's averaging all the frames rendered over one second into a single figure.
Multiplayer games, especially ones with a large amount of people on screen, are always CPU demanding. Translating game state between all of players is a very heavy task. Throw in stuff like physics, and you start to really tax the processor.
If you can, overclock that proc to 4.0GHz+, and you'll see a huge increase in performance.
It's still great, aside from some specific instances. As above, if it's clocked to 4.0GHz range, it's going to be not too far off from the newest stuff.
GAF is the best PC advice community on the internet. I'm not kidding.
Shorty11857
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If only I did that a year ago, to be honest I probably should have done more research, I just assumed the build recommended would not have such a basic problem
I've been pretty happy with my last build. I guess my main regret from that was not taking a good look at the bitfenix prodigy in person before I decided on a case. I really have an itch to build a smaller rig now. Lugging my mid tower to the living room just to play pc games on my tv is pretty inconvenient
CheezyMac88
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I wish I could replace my i7 3770 to the 3770K. :/
CPU i5 2500k and im looking to probably going from my 6870 to an 280x either at the end of the year or early 2015 as what ive currently got is not gonna cut it going forward.
Metalmurphy
Member
But if that was the case wouldn't the framerate be the same reducing the graphic options? Cause I can get much better framerate if I lower stuff.
And there's no way I can do 4.0Ghz -.-
What CPU would you guys recommend for a LGA1156?
One more benchmark this time with Vsync on, the whole round felt sluggish as hell.
That huge drop was the building collapsing.
The Cowboy
Member
How can people regret such glorious air coolers!, that is great.
The heatsink is complete overkill. Fits in my case but I don't over clock. I guess I'll use it in the future when my CPU starts lagging but until then it's really not doing much for my setup.
My MoBo isn't the best either. Should have spent more on MoBo and gotten a normal heatsink. O well, everything I throw at it runs great so I won't care for a while.
*Also regret how half assed I put this computer together w/ no regards to component safety. Everything worked out fine but I could have easily messed something up the way I put it together.
Mine - sadly you can't get a matching 8cm thermalright ty.
My biggest regret is my old PCs power supply, at the time it was my 1st build and despite going very high end with the GPU/CPU and ram etc I cheaped out on the PSU (I mean real cheap!) and boy did I regret it. After about 6 months whilst in my computer room playing a game there was a loud bang and a bright flash, the PSU had actually blown up (literally), it took out the Mobo, CPU, Ram and GPU - I was gutted and didn't build another PC for a few years.
Bottlenecks don't work like I think you are imagining. If you turn down settings, you're going to get better performance on the whole, but you're still going to have those massive dips that are related to the CPU shitting the bed.But if that was the case wouldn't the framerate be the same reducing the graphic options? Cause I can get much better framerate if I lower stuff.
And there's no way I can do 4.0Ghz -.-
What CPU would you guys recommend for a LGA1156?
One more benchmark this time with Vsync on, the whole round felt sluggish as hell.
That huge drop was the building collapsing.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), you have the best CPU for LGA1156. Get a CPU cooler and overclock the shit out of it.
Metalmurphy
Member
But that's the thing, I can get stable 60 if I turn turn off enough graphics options.
Is this legit? I had to RMA a 7970 but I was pretty happy with it. Was going to splurge and get a 290 but if it can't even manage BF4 what's the point
I have a i7 4770K @ 4.2GHz with a 680 (overclocked to 1220MHz but still roughly the same performance as 770. I get between 70 and 130fps, average around 80 or so for the most part. Using ultra with no MSAA and no ambient occlusion.
I did benchmarks with all settings maxed out at launch and I could still hold 70+ for the most part with an i5 2500K @ 4.3GHz before I replaced that one.
So yeah, your CPU is holding you back quite a bit there.
He must be playing at 1440p or have an old CPU. The 290 should have no problems with BF4 at 1080p.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
i suppose those graphics options might be using the cpu as well.
Naw dude. I went from i5 to i7 and the difference is jack for games.
And why regret? Just buy a used 3770k for $230 and sell your 3570 for $150.
MisterNoisy
Member
Corsair H60 in my HTPC/LAN party machine. Cooling performance was just middling and it's noisy as fuck because of all the resistance to the fan's airflow.
Got an i5 2500 instead of 2500k but luckily I quickly sold it for the k version .
My biggest regret would be upgrading to an ATi x800pro . That thing cost me $499 that time and I think the performance didn't just justify the price . It has only 8 pixel pipelines as well which I think it wouldn't be future proof . Later on I sold it for $400 and bought a 6800nu , which I think had much better price/performance .
My biggest regret would be upgrading to an ATi x800pro . That thing cost me $499 that time and I think the performance didn't just justify the price . It has only 8 pixel pipelines as well which I think it wouldn't be future proof . Later on I sold it for $400 and bought a 6800nu , which I think had much better price/performance .
Stable is about the least accurate descriptor for that graph you posted.
On mobile right now, I'll get back to you on this in like an hour in detail.
My regret is that I upgraded from an i7 930 and went for an i73930k
I should have waited for the upcoming Intel 8 Core CPUs, but dat upgrade itch was too much for me at that time.
Duxxy3
Member
i5 3450
8GB
6950 1GB
Kind of wish I had bought a 6950 with 2GB of ram instead of saving some money and getting the 1GB version. It's not really a big deal though.
In an older build I bought an ATI HD4890. In retrospect I should have bough an HD5850. I probably would still have it today.
I've made better decisions with CPU's. Before my i5 I had a 965BE, before that I had a Q6600. Would probably still have the AMD, but my brother badly needed an upgrade.
8GB
6950 1GB
Kind of wish I had bought a 6950 with 2GB of ram instead of saving some money and getting the 1GB version. It's not really a big deal though.
In an older build I bought an ATI HD4890. In retrospect I should have bough an HD5850. I probably would still have it today.
I've made better decisions with CPU's. Before my i5 I had a 965BE, before that I had a Q6600. Would probably still have the AMD, but my brother badly needed an upgrade.
DCDW
Member
Keep in mind that 290s will lower their performance the hotter the card runs, if your case isn't disappating heat well enough, it could cause a hit to your 290s performance.