Nintendo Palworld lawsuit; Nintendo gets sneaky

VGEsoterica

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I mean it's one thing to sue Pocketpair and Palworld because you think they violate your patents even if said patents are some of the most vague gameplay mechanics you could possible imagine. It's another thing to amend the patents mid lawsuit to try to strengthen their case when Pocketpair basically proves the patents should have never been granted in the first place as the patents weren't novel or unique. But Nintendo has to Nintendo lol

 
I dont care for Pokemon nor Palworld but any idiot could see Palword was a blatant copy of Pokemon. Nintendo wouldve been an idiot to let that fly.


Nothing of this is related to the patent. The only one doing scummy things here is nintendo. First, for patent trolling, second for this outrageous behaviour of changing a patent amidst the trial. It's borderline criminal and they should be punished.
 
I mean it's one thing to sue Pocketpair and Palworld because you think they violate your patents even if said patents are some of the most vague gameplay mechanics you could possible imagine. It's another thing to amend the patents mid lawsuit to try to strengthen their case when Pocketpair basically proves the patents should have never been granted in the first place as the patents weren't novel or unique. But Nintendo has to Nintendo lol


You sound biased.
 
I dont care for Pokemon nor Palworld but any idiot could see Palword was a blatant copy of Pokemon. Nintendo wouldve been an idiot to let that fly.
Well it's not like Pokemon was the peak of creativity.

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I mean it's one thing to sue Pocketpair and Palworld because you think they violate your patents even if said patents are some of the most vague gameplay mechanics you could possible imagine. It's another thing to amend the patents mid lawsuit to try to strengthen their case when Pocketpair basically proves the patents should have never been granted in the first place as the patents weren't novel or unique. But Nintendo has to Nintendo lol


You are making a thread about your own Video? 🤣
 
Nintendo has acted like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum through this whole thing. I don't even disagree that Palworld took a lot of creative ideas from other games, but so fucking what, that's how creative process works.
 
Nintendo has acted like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum through this whole thing. I don't even disagree that Palworld took a lot of creative ideas from other games, but so fucking what, that's how creative process works.
Exactly. What's next, id Software suing everyone for putting guns in their first person games? Shit's dumb as hell and super petty.
 
Exactly. What's next, id Software suing everyone for putting guns in their first person games? Shit's dumb as hell and super petty.
It's especially funny because Palworld wasn't even the first monster catching game, Nintendo could have sued Yokai Watch or Temtem or Digimon, but never went after those bigger third parties. But Palworld suddenly gets their attention?

(It's also very ironic because pokemon itself borrowed so much from DQ and SMT)

It's just bad form all around from them.
 
I dont care for Pokemon nor Palworld but any idiot could see Palword was a blatant copy of Pokemon. Nintendo wouldve been an idiot to let that fly.
Bingo. Nintendo has a duty to enforce their copyright.

Not doing so would weaken their ability to claim damages in the future or complicate future enforcement efforts.

"Pokemon with guns" narrative, even if not from the developer, gave Nintendo all they needed to pursue this.
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I dont care for Pokemon nor Palworld but any idiot could see Palword was a blatant copy of Pokemon. Nintendo wouldve been an idiot to let that fly.
After all this time why do y'all still bring this up? The lawsuit isn't about copyright, it's about patents; if nintendo felt confident they had a copyright case they wouldn't have resulted to patent trolling.
This case is complete bs no matter how you feel about whatever "blatant copy" palword is or isn't.
You are making a thread about your own Video? 🤣
He's made tons of threads about his own videos, so what?
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Nintendo has a duty to enforce their copyright.
fucking hell another one, this case has ZERO BEARING ON COPYRIGHT.
 
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fucking hell another one, this case has ZERO BEARING ON COPYRIGHT.
Isn't it about the patent on the damn pokeballs? That's the last I heard about this.

I through that's was prohibited here… 🤔
He's been doing it for quite a while, yet you only start complaining when it's something about Nintendo... :goog_relieved:
 
A classic meme that never gets old...
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Patents for mechanics in games will not lead to anything good. Nemesis system, sends greetings to everyone from the grave...
 
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This is full retard and makes zero sense at all, hope they lose hard... Well they'll lose even if they "win"... I mean, designs are a rip off and they could go that route, many people would support them, in fact many did until they realized it wasn't about it
 
This whole thing is ridiculous, hopefully they loose.
Some people here would rather have precedent for companies being able to patent and enforce basic gameplay mechanics and concepts instead of admitting that in this one instance their favorite toy maker is wrong.
 
I would exercise caution here, as patent reporting in the gaming space almost always is misleading and inaccurate. It's somewhat understandable as the patent system - in nearly any country - is arcane and complex, but I wish outlets didn't feel so comfortable making large assessments about what patents cover or the prosecution process.

Maybe the most common mistake I see made is in determining what a patent actually covers. It's precisely defined in a section referred to as the "claims". Everything else is there to support, describe, and enable others to make/use what is claimed. I don't know how the video reached this conclusion, but I do see an abstract highlighted when this point is discussed, which does not define what a patent actually covers.

The video also expresses confusion about how attorneys can modify a patent mid-stream. To be clear, I'm making a general comment here; maybe there is a substantive bone to pick here, and Japan has its own patent system with its own prosecution process. That said - in general - adjusting patents during prosecution (meaning before they are granted) based on a competitor is extremely common. It's literally called "directed prosecution." There's nothing nefarious about it. A common strategy is to, right after your patent is allowed but before you pay the issue fees, you file a continuation to essentially keep that patent (or its subject matter) alive, so you can adjust the continuation to better target a competitor and its products. In the US, there are ways to modify a patent after it's granted, but these are pretty limited - to fix a mistake, for example.

Again, I'm speaking in generalities and am not very familiar with the details of this case. I'd be interested to spend more time on some of the specific patents in question.

And I hope this doesn't come across as a personal attack to the video creator. If there's any frustration it's with reporting on patents in the gaming sphere in general.
 
If you've played Palworld more than 5 minutes and are aware of how Nintendo litigates, the outcome seems painfully obvious to me. But of course I can be wrong and others are free to disagree.
 
I was about to type up a response about how I'm not a random but a special unique snowflake but thank you for this ❤️

On a more serious note, that part by me is supposed to imply even I could be wrong, which is why people should take me up on an avatar bet

I think too many of us have bad memories of losing avatar bets in the past. I had a furry fuck me feline as my avatar for months. Never again
 
I think too many of us have bad memories of losing avatar bets in the past. I had a furry fuck me feline as my avatar for months. Never again
Outcomes of these sorts of cases are often decided by how rich the moving party is, and how rich the defendant is

Nintendo could bankrupt a company through litigation costs/attorneys fees if they felt like it
 
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