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PS5 shipments top 84.2 million; Ghost of Yotei sales top 3.3 million

For us? Sure. For the average Joe? They are the same picture.

Good point. But after 80 million sales the hardcore gamer is starting to scarce. And Nintendo usually does very well with the casual and in Christmas's. We'll see… I expect a slow year for PlayStation and an explosion in sales next Christmas with GTA VI making up and even more for the low sales until then. It's going to be like the receding tide drying the beach, continuing with the tsunami analogy.

You're ignoring market realities, the things you mention had absolutely no impact so far.
There is no stopping for PS5 sales, it's honestly delusional to think it, sales curve is totally in Sony's hands and 100% dependent on PS5 price and the balance they want to strike between sales and profits. External factors are historically irrelevant.
 
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Year over year quarter 2 hardware shipments are 0.1million up from 3.8 million.

Platstation 5 Versus Playstation 4

For the 2nd quarter of the fifth full fiscal year (purple) the 3.9 million the PS5 shipped matches the PS4's 3.9 million. After 20 quarters the PS5 totals 84.2 million compared to 86.3 million for the PS4. This means launch aligned the PS5 is 2.1 million behind the PS4.


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It's crazy, but maybe Sony will surpass the PS4's launch-aligned sales next quarter.
 
The decline in sales when a generation matures is not theoretical but a proven trend in every generation. To extrapolate last years results at the end of the generation to predict this year's is not accurate in any generation post PS2.
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This will be PS5's 6th holiday season

Your graph shows both PS3 and 360 having better 6th year sales than 5th year sales.

Seriously, thanks for going to such lengths of disproving yourself and backing what I was saying (y)
 
For the year so far as a whole they are only down 15%, and this latest quarter they are actually slightly up.
They are actually up for both quarters (by the same 0.1m) those go to FY
Sony probably just doesn't want to update number as there is toouch uncertainty in current environment so they leave it pessimistic
 
The PS5 has now surpassed GBA and PSP to become the tenth best selling console ever, it will easily overtake the X360 and PS3 after next quarter.

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Looking at PS4 and PS5 comparisions...i really can't imagine PS5 not surpassing PS4 next year (launch aligned). Unless GTAVI is again delayed.
 
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These slides will probably make a lot of people happy. AAA focus, their focus on their ecosystem (ano no PC in sight...for some reason that seems to make people happy), etc.

Speaking of which...is this the 2nd quarter that PC is suspicially absent? Like...i see it nowhere or am i missing something?

Portal is also showing up more and more.

Its obvious that Sony loves the Portal. They show it off like it's the PSP2.
 
Your graph shows both PS3 and 360 having better 6th year sales than 5th year sales.*
(*) with collapsing Wii numbers. 6th year of that generation is down YoY and they were competing with buying a GameCube in 2010. Completely the opposite scenario of what is happening this year. Except for what DenchDeckard DenchDeckard said, in which case you both have a point there. We agree to disagree. Well see in January…
 
They literally have 0 competition in the high end space though. Yes the switch 2 will cannibalise some sales but there is no Xbox on the market. Sony should be eating good for years to come. Split the demand for Xbox across switch 2 and PS5 and it should allow for healthy growth across the platforms. PS5 should absolutely fly for the rest of this gen.

It's more likely than not that it won't experience the COVID chip crisis that led to PS4's production being axed after PS5 launched too.
 
(*) with collapsing Wii numbers. 6th year of that generation is down YoY and they were competing with buying a GameCube in 2010. Completely the opposite scenario of what is happening this year. Except for what DenchDeckard DenchDeckard said, in which case you both have a point there. We agree to disagree. Well see in January…

Wii was a total anomaly, severely front loaded and in no way reflects the average trajectory of console sales. Your graph even demonstrates that.
 
Ghost of Tsushima sold 2.4 million in 3 days. What did it sell after 32 days?

Yotei likely well behind.

Kacho my dear friend, the greatest skill in life is knowing when to yield and accept defeat.

We may have lost this battle, but we shall win the war.
 
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These slides will probably make a lot of people happy. AAA focus, their focus on their ecosystem (ano no PC in sight...for some reason that seems to make people happy), etc.

Speaking of which...is this the 2nd quarter that PC is suspicially absent? Like...i see it nowhere or am i missing something?

Portal is also showing up more and more.
Where I can see the full slide presentation? I can't found it.
 
GTA 6(timed console exclusive) and Call of Duty being next-gen only will generate unreal console sales next year. It would not shock me if it is the best selling hardware year in Playstation history
 
Pretty impressive numbers for Playstation 5, almost 4 million were sold this quarter (more than last year), increased forecasts for the fiscal year and on top of that Yotei has sold 3.3 million in one month, it's always fun when real data comes out and the detractors of the brand have to shut up.
 
GTA 6(timed console exclusive) and Call of Duty being next-gen only will generate unreal console sales next year. It would not shock me if it is the best selling hardware year in Playstation history

Only if they lower the price by $50 for both units.
 
Dude I'm anti woke and I'm 48 hours into Yotei and doing everything. Haven't noticed anything woke yet. These people like Smash need to realize it's about what woke crap is in the actual product. Not that the voice actress is a mentally ill antifa, as long as it's not in the game, who cares.

Colin tore him up too. That was just embarrassing how he kept trying to spin circana.
People just need to be honest and say they prefer playing as a male character. The debate over wokeness isn't applicable for Yotei.
 
  • Ghost of Yotei has sold-through 3.3 million units as of November 2, 2025 (32 days after release).

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I say like always- it all depends on game's budget, we know GoY had well under 100m usd budget just like GoT so those 3,3m sales at 70usd(no need to take out 30% cut coz sony is platform holder altho ofc probably around half of them were physical so out of 70$ sony got 45$ from physical copies or so).

Quick dirty math 1,8m of 45$ from phys copies equals 81m usd, 1,5m of full 70$(some countries its more but price is with tax, so lets stick to 70$) from digital copies equals 105m usd, so total revenue(not profit) from those sold 3,3m copies(not players, sold copies) is around 186m usd, aka game is already well into profitable= success.
 
Not to get into politics (and mods you can delete this if you want), but it's looking like America/Chinese tariffs will be going down or be back to 2024 levels depending on the Supreme Court. I can definitely see a big price adjustment next year.

Mods don't consider this politics because it's 100% related to gaming. And yeah, those Supreme Court justices weren't playing any games. The tariffs will more than likely go to 2024 levels (aka 2%, instead of 20-30%). That'll probably be a $100 savings to Sony right there.

I wish they do the right then in pass that or most of those savings to the gamers.
 
I say like always- it all depends on game's budget, we know GoY had well under 100m usd budget just like GoT so those 3,3m sales at 70usd(no need to take out 30% cut coz sony is platform holder altho ofc probably around half of them were physical so out of 70$ sony got 45$ from physical copies or so).

Quick dirty math 1,8m of 45$ from phys copies equals 81m usd, 1,5m of full 70$(some countries its more but price is with tax, so lets stick to 70$) from digital copies equals 105m usd, so total revenue(not profit) from those sold 3,3m copies(not players, sold copies) is around 186m usd, aka game is already well into profitable= success.

It's amazing to think literally every sold copy of GoY from today forword is PURE profit for Sony and Sucker Punch.

They can lower the price of the game after Christmas to $50 and still make killer profit. Of they sell 5 million by the end of the year, they will 100% be making a 3rd Ghost game.
 
It's amazing to think literally every sold copy of GoY from today forword is PURE profit for Sony and Sucker Punch.

They can lower the price of the game after Christmas to $50 and still make killer profit. Of they sell 5 million by the end of the year, they will 100% be making a 3rd Ghost game.
Yups, personally not a huge fan of female protag or how she manhandles much bigger/more muscular men from her with 2handed katana, but lets separate feels from what is real- game is definitely profitable aleady and solid(not crazy amazing like GoT but still very solid) comercial success.
Rule of thumb is when dev studio/publisher proudly shares actual sales w/o any caviots(like annuncing game performed below expectations)we can assume game did at least decent in their eyes ;)
 
A really solid start for GoY. I still maintain it won't have the legs of GoT, but anything close to 10m sales accumulated via various platforms over the next 5 years would represent a very good ROI.
 
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GTA 6(timed console exclusive) and Call of Duty being next-gen only will generate unreal console sales next year. It would not shock me if it is the best selling hardware year in Playstation history
November 16 - GTAVI
Late 2026 - Wolverine
COD - Fall 2026 (first game that's not on PS4)
Marvel Tokon: Fighting Souls - 2026

This will be something for sure...

But best year for PS hardware? I really can't imagine that unless a price decrease happens.
 
November 16 - GTAVI
Late 2026 - Wolverine
Those 2 things cant happen simulatanously, either wolverine gonna be moved to jan/feb/march 2027 with very late delay annoucment(sony will wait probably till late sept/early oct to make sure of gta6 launch date) or simply mid 2026 we gonna get 3rd(or maybe by then 4th) trailer. this time with 2027 delay announcent for gta6.
 
Likely behind, but not well behind. First 3 day sales doesn't say much if there is a 75% or more cliff after that. Tsushima did 5 million in 4 months. So may be we can say for sure in 3 more months.

EDIT: Beaten
PS5 install base is 0.75% of what PS4 was when Tsushima launched and no Pandemic boost.

On the hardware topic, I can see Sony retaining the current ps5 price until at least the GTA VI launch. It'll probably only get a price cut now in the PS6 launch year.
 
People just need to be honest and say they prefer playing as a male character. The debate over wokeness isn't applicable for Yotei.

If I only consumed media that I agree with it would be like country music, Megadeth and the Hallmark channel. Ha! It's unrealistic to be that sanctimonious.
 
I expect the PS5 to track behind the PS4 for the next couples of years, then it will overtake it by having a much stronger tail because it won't be quickly "killed off" by Covid like the PS4 was. the final total could be 125 million.
Yep, this seems like a doable target IMO. The CFO mentioned they consider the PS5 to be at the midpoint of its lifecycle, so they'll probably keep producing new units until around 2030, which would be a few years into the PS6 cycle.

Sony CFO Lin Tao says the PS5 is only in the middle of its lifecycle and they want to expand the lifecycle even further!

"Our view is that compared to conventional console lifecycles. Looking at the PS4 lifecycle it seems to be getting longer and longer. Especially the PS4, which was launched in 2013 and its been over a decade since then, but there are many active users enjoying the console...

So from that perspective we believe that the PS5 is only in the middle of the journey and we are really planning to expand it even further."

 
For us? Sure. For the average Joe? They are the same picture.

Good point. But after 80 million sales the hardcore gamer is starting to scarce. And Nintendo usually does very well with the casual and in Christmas's. We'll see… I expect a slow year for PlayStation and an explosion in sales next Christmas with GTA VI making up and even more for the low sales until then. It's going to be like the receding tide drying the beach, continuing with the tsunami analogy.
This is like arguing with an angry version of chatGPT. After 80 million sales the hardcore gamer number is starting to be scarce… mmmh… captain obvious, that number starts to scarce at 30 Million or so maybe a lot lot less. Think N64 and GCN sales or Wii U.
 
Those 2 things cant happen simulatanously, either wolverine gonna be moved to jan/feb/march 2027 with very late delay annoucment(sony will wait probably till late sept/early oct to make sure of gta6 launch date) or simply mid 2026 we gonna get 3rd(or maybe by then 4th) trailer. this time with 2027 delay announcent for gta6.
Insomniac releases their games in Sep / Oct. I don't see them delaying it unless they really need to for polishing.
 
1. Microsoft / Xbox has not been a competition to PS for almost a decade now.

2. It's insane to assume this because what was the alternative? All those people would have bought an Xbox? Of course, not.

Didn't realize I was going to trigger so many fanboys with a pretty milquetoast comment.


Xbox is dead as a hardware platform. That's a ~30-50m unit market more-or-less gone. If you don't think that's going to have any impact on the competition, you're burying your head on the sand.


This is not said to slight what Sony has been doing. They're doing a fine job. But obviously when your biggest competition (even if that competition was pretty small) folds, you're going to gain some new customers in the transition.
 
Say what you want about the lefties, but they know when a cause is lost (like Veilguard or Hogwarts Legacy) and just stop digging.

Doomtubers just can't stop digging and moving the goalposts, just admit you were wrong. I promise you will live.
 
I'm sure there are more employees there like that one & it's not great. Good for them selling well on a less crazy budget. Will likely pick up used or on a deep discount eventually. Distracted with Switch 2 right now.
 
They have zero chance competition in the high end now.

Those prices aren't dropping until sales slow down after the GTA bump.

PS5 install base is 0.75% of what PS4 was when Tsushima launched and no Pandemic boost.

On the hardware topic, I can see Sony retaining the current ps5 price until at least the GTA VI launch. It'll probably only get a price cut now in the PS6 launch year.

What if the USA Supreme Court strikes down the President's tariffs? What do you think the price of the PS5 will be in 2026?



Say what you want about the lefties, but they know when a cause is lost (like Veilguard or Hogwarts Legacy) and just stop digging.

Doomtubers just can't stop digging and moving the goalposts, just admit you were wrong. I promise you will live.

Why aren't you calling the Doomtubers, righties?
 
X360 last official sales update was 84 million shipped (June 2014), but it remained on sale for another year and within that time Microsoft lumped X360 and XBO sales together. Then by June 2015 they completely ended quarterly and yearly shipment updates. General estimates have it shipping 85 to 86 million.
 
Tsushima likely around 3.9m at the same stage imo.

This would put Yotei ~15% down, which would fit with the (Harker?) suggestion it was ~10% down at launch and with the (Japan) data showing it not keeping pace with Tsushima sales post launch.

Maybe things will look a little better for Yotei after the holidays, because then Yotei will have had holidays and Tsushima wouldn't have, but Tsushima will encounter them eventually.
Yotei is definitely behind and unlikely to pull ahead. I'm curious what happens after the holidays.

Ghost of Tsushima milestones for future reference.
Jul 17, 2020: Release
Jul 19, 2020: 2.4M
Nov 13, 2020: 5.0M
Jan 05, 2022: 8.0M
Jul 03, 2022: 9.73M
Sep 24, 2024: 13.0M
 
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