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[Meifu]

This PC with coupons is about $1750, seems like an insane deal right? https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/omen-by-hp-45l-gaming-desktop-gt22-0465xt-bundle-pc

Just wanted to get some opinions on if there are any glaring flags here I'm missing? It also comes with a free mousepad, keyboard and headset.

This would be my first upgrade since my 1070 machine I've had since 2017

 

[Robot Carnival]

I looked into the HP Omen line of pre-build PCs back when I was getting ready for my next purchase back then. seems like there was a lot of negative feed backs regarding the parts they use. most problematic being the cooling for the CPU and the power supply. I would highly recommend that if you have some tech savvy, try building your own. with the falling price of GPUs these days, you should be able to put together a pretty good one with that budget.

 

[eddie4]

The problem with manufacturer PCs is they use shittier parts for cooling, thermals, motherboards, etc. I built my PC last year for about $1400 with premium parts with a monitor, not including the GPU. It's an i9, with 32gb of ram, 1tb SSD. If you know someone who can build a PC for you, or if you can do it yourself, it will last longer and you'll get more bang for your buck. I don't even see an i9 being offered by HPs Omen line. I just used an RX5600 for the GPU, which I ran into and bought during the GPU shortage, but it runs my games fine, and I'm waiting for the price drop on the 30 series of nvidia GPUs. Then i just have to swap and GPU and it should be good for anther 2-3 years.

here's a similar build list that I've done for a friend, i9, 32gb, 3080 LHR. you can also go with an i7-12th gen.
CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor ($339.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($7.25 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.24 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB VENTUS 3X PLUS OC Video Card ($719.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1745.29

 

[Meifu]

I looked into the HP Omen line of pre-build PCs back when I was getting ready for my next purchase back then. seems like there was a lot of negative feed backs regarding the parts they use. most problematic being the cooling for the CPU and the power supply. I would highly recommend that if you have some tech savvy, try building your own. with the falling price of GPUs these days, you should be able to put together a pretty good one with that budget.

Please show me a pre build that rivals this pricing. I've played around with newegg and can't get anything even remotely close with the same specs in pricing.

 

[Meifu]

The problem with manufacturer PCs is they use shittier parts for cooling, thermals, motherboards, etc. I built my PC last year for about $1400 with premium parts with a monitor, not including the GPU. It's an i9, with 32gb of ram, 1tb SSD. If you know someone who can build a PC for you, or if you can do it yourself, it will last longer and you'll get more bang for your buck. I don't even see an i9 being offered by HPs Omen line. I just used an RX5600 for the GPU, which I ran into and bought during the GPU shortage, but it runs my games fine, and I'm waiting for the price drop on the 30 series of nvidia GPUs. Then i just have to swap and GPU and it should be good for anther 2-3 years.

here's a similar build list that I've done for a friend, i9, 32gb, 3080 LHR. you can also go with an i7-12th gen.
CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor ($339.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($7.25 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z490-A PRO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.24 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB VENTUS 3X PLUS OC Video Card ($719.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1745.29

Great info....can you point out on which parts are big leg up on the pre build? Can't i just upgrade the CPU or GPU later if I want?

 

[eddie4]

Great info....can you point out on which parts are big leg up on the pre build? Can't i just upgrade the CPU or GPU later if I want?

Mostly the Motherboard, RAM, thermal paste, and cooling fan. Yes, you can upgrade the CPU/GPU/RAM, but the rest are just OEM parts, which usually suck. I've had pre-builts before, and I would never buy a pre-built again.

here's a similar build to the OMEN PC, it's a bit more, but with this one, you get 16GB more ram, a bit more memory on the GPU (12GB), and overall better parts. CPU is the same. you also don't get the OEM motherboard. You can always swap out the case or any other parts you want to change.

CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MASTERLIQUID ML240L RGB V2 65.59 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5 g Thermal Paste ($7.25 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.24 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB VENTUS 3X PLUS OC Video Card ($719.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1906.40

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I bought an Omen with a 3080 (Ryzen CPU) prebuilt last November. Normally id go build my own but I wanted to upgrade and didn't want to wait around for GPU deals because they were few and far between. Love it. Use it every day. No issues whatsoever.

They had some bullshit at one point where you couldn't put your own RAM in, but they patched it with a firmware update or some such.. So I ordered mine with the bare minimum highest speed RAM and was able to add in some more on top later.

I have a 1440p 240hz monitor and its awesome going back and playing games from ~5 years ago at that res and framerate. Silky smooth and crisp.

VR works a dream on it, too

 

[Meifu]

I think I'm pulling the trigger here.

The prebuilt vs. having to source parts and go through that is worth it to me. eddie4 thanks so much for the advice and I'm def going to go prebuild down the line...i think this is the rare instance where the convivence+ price is good for me.

 

[Robot Carnival]

Please show me a pre build that rivals this pricing. I've played around with newegg and can't get anything even remotely close with the same specs in pricing.

$1750 is definitely hard to beat. but I can assure you, that price tag is for a reason.

this one is from Linus on the 45L itself




here's one from Gamers Nexus about another HP pre-build, but not an Omen




also, I matched most of the parts that's listed on the 45L site with Newegg, and it comes to $1957 or so before tax. I would say the extra $200 would be worth it just to know some of the more important parts are actually trust worthy.

in the end, it's up to you to decide if you think those matters to you or not.

 

[jshackles]

I bought a pre-built HP last year. It's been great. Mine is only a 3060, but it still drives my 3440x1440 monitor well for most things.

Yes - you could build it yourself and (maybe) save some money. I used to build all my own PCs out of parts, but the last 4-5 years or so it just hasn't been worth the hassle for me personally. It used to be that some of the parts would be somewhat re-usable - in that you could build a PC now, and when it's time to upgrade in a few years you just replace your graphics card. Or, you pull your HDD, RAM, and GPU and put it into a new build. Nowadays, with technology moving as fast as it does - within 4-5 years, every single part in your PC will likely need replaced all at once, because by then your 5 year old CPU, RAM, SSD, motherboard, etc. will be a generation or two behind.

Someone will post the LTT video saying don't do it. So I'm going to be the voice of the devil in your ear saying "do it".

fake edit: yep, someone posted LTT while I was typing this

 

[Robot Carnival]

I think I'm pulling the trigger here.

The prebuilt vs. having to source parts and go through that is worth it to me. eddie4 thanks so much for the advice and I'm def going to go prebuild down the line...i think this is the rare instance where the convivence+ price is good for me.

just to be clear, I'm not saying pre-builds are bad. my current one is a pre-build (mostly due to supply shortage back then thou). I'm just saying the Omen does not give me much confidence that's all. maybe shop a little more and maybe even wait a little if you're not in a hurry to get one. we would have the 40 series GPUs out in a month or so, so who knows what's the price by then?

 

[Meifu]

I don did it and I’m stoked to be able to play 4K without reserve now….


So my old 1070 i5 machine what do I do with that now? Sell it for a couple hundred ?

 

[eddie4]

I don did it and I’m stoked to be able to play 4K without reserve now….


So my old 1070 i5 machine what do I do with that now? Sell it for a couple hundred ?

Sell locally for some cash, or part it out. up to you.