AI Slop
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Spyxos
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What about him?
Senua
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HRK69
Member
Oh boy.
You can act tough all you want, but let's be real, you can't tell a well-made AI video or photo from the real thing either (you probably say you can, but trust me, you can't)
So by your own logic… are you calling yourself a retard?
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HoodWinked
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Current year slop meets ai slop.
"5 new Animals found" with a blue Rhino is what I see, I don't care about what caught you out so badly you're projecting, and I don't want to have a discussion with you about it or anything else.
HRK69
Member
Yeah, you saw a blue rhino and assumed everyone is too dumb to spot AI. Got it.
Meanwhile, real deepfakes and photorealistic AI content are out there fooling professionals, but sure, you're built different. Enjoy yelling at thumbnails lmfaoo
Seeing as you can't take a hint or follow instructions, I'll just pop you on ignore.
Paltheos
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I watched this segment earlier this week. Nothing particularly new but a big concern for me (as also touched on in the video) has been further erosion of trust and polarization. If someone sees something that threatens their particular world view, they can be that much more willing to believe it's fake even if it's real.
The long-term effects of using AI for propaganda too will be... interesting.
The long-term effects of using AI for propaganda too will be... interesting.
HRK69
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ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
worst possible spokesman for this, with views so parroted that his contributions to discourse are already less acute than already existing AI... but that would get us off topic
on AI slop: the thing is, this is an odd time to make that claim, because we're finally seeing models capable enough that the content isn't all slop. In fact, some AI content today is legitimately amusing... case in point would be some of the bigfoot / sasquatch vlog videos. Some of them (there are too many clones for a moment) are actually very amusing. The model is producing a legitimately perceptive parody down to the little details of how vloggers speak -- and all of that is from the model itself.
Or something like this simple video:
The thing is, the "actors" here are legitimately funny, because Veo3 does such a good job at parody. It's almost like they are "in on the joke" in how it portrays the various characters in this context. This is well above typical youtube parody content level of quality.
So there's a lot of bad content due to low hanging fruit, but we'll see engaging content rise up more and more as the models improve. We're seeing a juncture now where it's clear that AI will be productively embedded into quality entertainment content over time.
Dr.Morris79
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The Temu version of Ben Elton.
Poppinfresh
Member
I'd rather watch hours of AI-produced content than one minute of John Oliver slop.
Zathalus
Member
As always, politics.
Spyxos
Member
Huh, I didn't realize he was so unpopular. I only know him from a Boing video a while ago, which I didn't think was so bad.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
He's fine. Some people just can't get over his personality or subject matter. It's telling when people get mad at him for what he said or how he said it, and not for being factually wrong.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
uh this guy is a tremendous ideological mouthpiece, he is quite literally a disinformation source and factually wrong on significant topics
but I don't want to get off track, so just regarding his AI claims, it's a bit late and lazy. There is a problem of AI content online, a genuine problem; but he feels like he's reporting on a version of it from months ago, whereas the capabilities are currently shifting in a way that reveals AI will be part of most "genuine" content production as well very soon, and with productive uses
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Dr.Morris79
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
C'mon man. The bloke is a complete Twat.
He might be a twat, but are his points about AI slop wrong?
TommyCronin6969
Member
He usually goes about all these scenarios from the same angle. Pick topic - take the lowest IQ take and insert bad joke about stuff that has nothing to do with topic at hand and his audience claps like untrained seals. It gets very old for a lot of people.
His trans videos are peak delusional. This also falls under the worst person you know made a good point but that still means they're still the worst person you know.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Are his points about AI slop wrong?
TommyCronin6969
Member
I never said they were. I'm pointing out why people are being so dismissive of him here.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yes I know. I'm reinforcing your point.
TommyCronin6969
Member
What he is saying has been said many many times over. I wouldn't use him or his format in a way of trying to convince people that AI Slop is a bad thing. You're actually doing a disservice to the matter by doing so.
Dr.Morris79
Member
Anyone could make the same assumptions
It's what you propagate as a whole makes you a person.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm doing a disservice by reinforcing your point? Or am I reading this wrong?
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
agreed -- as similarly said above (when I called him the "worst spokesman for this"), the criticisms of Oliver are directly tied to the actual subject matter here of "slop" and AI.
He embodies "slop" in his own content, lazily parroting of whatever the current establishment line is on a topic. Those are the main points of critique of LLMs after all, that they sort of instinctively repeat the middle-line consensus -- and you couldn't find a tv commentator who is a better example of that than Oliver himself. AI could capably generate his scripts and skits; in just a few years, "repeat the main conventional wisdom points on [x topic] and laugh at it" will absolutely produce better comedy and insight than this actual man, and in the same style.
So the criticisms of Oliver and of his take on the AI topic are unified. It's not that he's being attacked randomly for his unrelated views. It's more that we are struck by the audacity of him of all people talking about slop content. I think a world where we have Sasquatch AI laughing at the news will legitimately be more clever and entertaining than all the Olivers in the world
Digital-Aftertaste
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I'd rather a show with an ai host that doesn't use the same 3 jokes and lets the good writers present their findings and information through this fake host. Worst part of the John Oliver show is John Oliver himself.
Tams
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There's a reason he's a Brit in America.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
back on the topic itself without any reference to Oliver:
One of the key problems I see with "AI slop" complaints is its tendency to ignore how bad social / viral content already is. The status quo for content in 2025 is already horrific without AI content -- it's "whatever makes users engage fastest" short-form attention baiting drivel. TikTok melts your brain, Youtube shorts do the same. The humanity of our content was already lost when everyone plugged themselves into The Algorithm to desperately seek attention and create an endless stream of quick junk for doom scrolling.
AI didn't create that situation. In its early forms, it does exacerbate the problems a bit by filling the platforms up with even more junk, but if and when any of the cheap slop makes its way into your feed, that's because these social media networks built on "find an algorithm to capture attention in short bursts of random content" are inherently built to surface crap to you. The AI is in that case just playing the game, but the game itself is fundamentally broken already.
I'm actually a little happy about the notion that AI entertainment might push a certain portion of "content creators" out of the market, when those are the ones who create the most attention seeking quick drivel anyway. Maybe once it starts gutting the paycheck of a few million human-slop creators, we'll see people abandon these platforms more and find something new and more engaging on a real level.
One of the key problems I see with "AI slop" complaints is its tendency to ignore how bad social / viral content already is. The status quo for content in 2025 is already horrific without AI content -- it's "whatever makes users engage fastest" short-form attention baiting drivel. TikTok melts your brain, Youtube shorts do the same. The humanity of our content was already lost when everyone plugged themselves into The Algorithm to desperately seek attention and create an endless stream of quick junk for doom scrolling.
AI didn't create that situation. In its early forms, it does exacerbate the problems a bit by filling the platforms up with even more junk, but if and when any of the cheap slop makes its way into your feed, that's because these social media networks built on "find an algorithm to capture attention in short bursts of random content" are inherently built to surface crap to you. The AI is in that case just playing the game, but the game itself is fundamentally broken already.
I'm actually a little happy about the notion that AI entertainment might push a certain portion of "content creators" out of the market, when those are the ones who create the most attention seeking quick drivel anyway. Maybe once it starts gutting the paycheck of a few million human-slop creators, we'll see people abandon these platforms more and find something new and more engaging on a real level.
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Zathalus
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AI Slop is indeed correct. Not a single example of anything AI videos that I have found remotely engaging. Even the code from the latest reasoning models has limitations. I mean it works, but you still require a good developer to make the most of it. Well documented basic tasks? Great. Anything more complex and you are going to do a lot of debugging. Anything on the bleeding edge? Forget about it.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Yep when these types of masterpieces exist, he is 100% wrong. AI is clearly the future, and it's still early days.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yep when these types of masterpieces exist, he is 100% wrong. AI is clearly the future, and it's still early days.
Well, in the video, that's not the kind of AI slop he's talking about because he praised the stupid cat video.
Major Insano
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Youtube has been full of slop lately,especially the shorts.
Even the ads seem to be mostly AI.
It is getting a lot better in quality though, like the Impossible stuff posted above, and it can be really funny tongue in cheek stuff.
I was mind blown when I found out this Instagram model I've been (cough) admiring was AI. (Nikki Bellini)
OT: Can't stand John Oliver as well. I will gladly take back Piers Morgan as long as you keep that clown Oliver.
Even the ads seem to be mostly AI.
It is getting a lot better in quality though, like the Impossible stuff posted above, and it can be really funny tongue in cheek stuff.
I was mind blown when I found out this Instagram model I've been (cough) admiring was AI. (Nikki Bellini)
OT: Can't stand John Oliver as well. I will gladly take back Piers Morgan as long as you keep that clown Oliver.
AREYOUOKAY?
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You know that meme buzzword is dead when even he starts to use it.
Eirin
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I tried to get ChatGPT to write me a stupid song, but outside of a few good lines, it's pretty bland. Lacks depth & randomness that isn't truly random.
Durin
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There definitely is an increase in slop, but coming from John Oliver it doesn't mean much because that's what his content devolved into. His show format has a predictable cadence that feels like AI to me.
In the media space, I do think AI will only grow as the tools and people using them get better, because even though it's derivative with say the art generators...it's often enough at least derivative of good aesthetics vs. the amount of artists making calart or corporate memphis slop.
In the media space, I do think AI will only grow as the tools and people using them get better, because even though it's derivative with say the art generators...it's often enough at least derivative of good aesthetics vs. the amount of artists making calart or corporate memphis slop.
Xeela_sunston
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It like Audiophiles who swear they Can tell AAC/Vorbis/Opus at 192kbps VBR, But then look stupid when they fail hard an get a 5/5 score. MP3 in this situation like older AI tools that look ugly while AAC/Opus are bleeding edge AI tools.