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AI turns wi-fi routers into "cameras" that see people through walls
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feynoob
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I would prefer the Terminator future, compared to where we are going now.
At least, we can defeat the Terminator. This AI on other hand is too powerful physically and psychological. There is no counter to it. It knows everything about us. It even has the outcome of Terminator.
EverydayBeast
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Needs to be repeated over and over.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Yep, CSIRO in Australia and Google have been working with it for years, not long before commercial applications.
nush
Member
Also what people need to be aware of is that over 90% (Stats from my ass) of these AI stories are just techbros looking for investor money and jornos looking for clicks. They did the same horse and pony show with VR.
March Climber
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This is less Terminator, and more Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning.
Audiophile
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TDK Bruce Wayne right now:
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
The Dark Knight
Hawking Radiation
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Exactly what came to mind when I saw this. That amazing scene in The Dark Knight. This tech though is not amazing if it gets into the wrong hands lol
AJUMP23
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
You're joking, right? This tech was invented by "the wrong hands".
MisterFalcon
Member
"We Turned Every Wi-Fi Router Into A Camera"
(after also putting a lot of extra stuff into the room and filming everything in it for months)
(also, why use the camera you have in the room already?)
(after also putting a lot of extra stuff into the room and filming everything in it for months)
(also, why use the camera you have in the room already?)
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Cyberpunkd
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We will have to team up with rogue rogue AI that came to appreciate humanity for our arts and culture. Together we will take on it’s evil AI twin.
newtypepilot
Member
this isn't AI. It's just Kinect.
FunkMiller
Member
“Beautiful, isn’t it?”
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
jufonuk
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WiFi perverts I got something for yah.
That’s the real reason they doing it.
There’s also that story about how the Russians figured out how much a window was vibrating through sound and used it to spy on the Americans or something like that.
www.wired.com
This ain’t new.
That’s the real reason they doing it.
There’s also that story about how the Russians figured out how much a window was vibrating through sound and used it to spy on the Americans or something like that.
Spies Can Eavesdrop by Watching a Light Bulb's Vibrations
The so-called lamphone technique allows for real-time listening in on a room that's hundreds of feet away.
This ain’t new.
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Ownage
Member
Correct.
UFOs? No, they're reconnaissance drones that have been around since the 1990s. These days they have offensive capabilities as much as surveillance. And that's what's "publicly" known. There are levels well beyond that too. This is just next in line in case the big pimp hand of Capitalism needs to set the Sino record straight.
ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Indeed. And if you are into and or believe in multiple resets 50 years is a joke.
ÆMNE22A!C
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WiFi perverts I got something for yah.
That’s the real reason they doing it.
There’s also that story about how the Russians figured out how much a window was vibrating through sound and used it to spy on the Americans or something like that.
Spies Can Eavesdrop by Watching a Light Bulb's Vibrations
The so-called lamphone technique allows for real-time listening in on a room that's hundreds of feet away.
This ain’t new.
Sound is vibration.
Toots
Gold Member
Yes but Lucius Fox made Bruce Wayne promise he would destroy the tech as soon as he found where the Joker was hiding so no harm no fool.
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Yes, which is why I paid two men to ligate my vas deferens while I watched and made small talk
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poppabk
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Yeah this takes a ton of effort to work and is pointless seeing as if you have access to the router then you probably have access to multiple actual cameras, microphones and a ton of actually useful data.
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chromhound
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ÆMNE22A!C
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Listening and watching us through our phone and Smart TV. This router shit.
Mini drones the size of bugs.
"Medication"
Perhaps I'm pessimistic.
Never mind the divide and conquer through race and gender.
Throw in some DEW weapons and designed .... with an senile p phile president.
If you don't see this you maybe need glasses.
Mini drones the size of bugs.
"Medication"
Perhaps I'm pessimistic.
Never mind the divide and conquer through race and gender.
Throw in some DEW weapons and designed .... with an senile p phile president.
If you don't see this you maybe need glasses.
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LegendOfKage
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So for the more tech minded on the forum, if you have a wifi router that also support Ethernet, and you have your PCs on the network set to airplane mode while you connect using Ethernet, could a router with that setup still be used to spy on people? Even if you never enabled the wifi and setup a password?
If so, I wonder if a market will emerge for Ethernet routers without any wifi support.
If so, I wonder if a market will emerge for Ethernet routers without any wifi support.
MisterFalcon
Member
This 'tech' is just a theoretical lab exercise with zero real world applications.
Basically they had a router in one corner of a room and receivers at various points on the other sides of the room. And cameras. When people walk around in the room they block some of the signal and with machine learning they linked the patterns in interference to the images of people standing in certain positions. Once you have enough of this data (possibly months) you can turn off the camera and the software will recall interference pattern 7547785541 to match frame 10093439458 of the stored imagery,
Now if some hacker installed this software remotely on your router it does absolutely nothing as there are no receivers to measure. And if they snuck in and hid receivers they still have no reference data to work from. Their test room is unlikely to have the same router position, furniture and dimensions. So they need to sneak in a bunch of cameras as well. And if they did that why do they need this router radar?
Something that could be conceivable is using the wifi signal strength from your smartphone or tablet to get an idea of where you are in relation to the router. Same room, other room, out in the garden, these things would be possible to determine remotely. People have made a jury rigged GPS by going around and measuring antenna strengths for locations. Each location has a unique fingerprint of cell tower ID's and their signal strength. Move a little to one side and antenna A gets weaker while B gets stronger. Get enough data and you have a navigation system that does not use satellites. Until one antenna get moved a little or replaced.
Basically they had a router in one corner of a room and receivers at various points on the other sides of the room. And cameras. When people walk around in the room they block some of the signal and with machine learning they linked the patterns in interference to the images of people standing in certain positions. Once you have enough of this data (possibly months) you can turn off the camera and the software will recall interference pattern 7547785541 to match frame 10093439458 of the stored imagery,
Now if some hacker installed this software remotely on your router it does absolutely nothing as there are no receivers to measure. And if they snuck in and hid receivers they still have no reference data to work from. Their test room is unlikely to have the same router position, furniture and dimensions. So they need to sneak in a bunch of cameras as well. And if they did that why do they need this router radar?
Something that could be conceivable is using the wifi signal strength from your smartphone or tablet to get an idea of where you are in relation to the router. Same room, other room, out in the garden, these things would be possible to determine remotely. People have made a jury rigged GPS by going around and measuring antenna strengths for locations. Each location has a unique fingerprint of cell tower ID's and their signal strength. Move a little to one side and antenna A gets weaker while B gets stronger. Get enough data and you have a navigation system that does not use satellites. Until one antenna get moved a little or replaced.
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Peggies
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Solarstrike
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Scary.
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